posted March 30, 2014 01:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
But again, I never said "I over'promise" to people, lol.

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posted March 30, 2014 01:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
But again, I never "I over'promise" to people, lol.

They ask me if I am going to do something and I am uncertain about the exact result. How would I know is something pops up and I cannot do it? That is why I prefer to tell them "Idk" or "Maybe".

And yeah, I am about technicalities as well, which is why I even mentioned it being technically a lie, but not truly a lie in the way the word is commonly used

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posted March 30, 2014 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Who says J.K. Rowling is a great writer? How old are you?
Sorry, couldn't help it

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Each of the billions of £ that make her the richest woman in England. Pounds Sterling are unbiased.

posted March 30, 2014 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
So all promises are made with a will and way?

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posted March 30, 2014 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
If I know I can not fulfil something I just don't do it. It's that simple.

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posted March 30, 2014 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Each of the billions of £ that make her the richest woman in England. Pounds Sterling are unbiased.

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posted March 30, 2014 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
...says a Leo Sun and Venus in the 2nd house...duh...

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Exactly!!!!
What's interesting is that I don't care for money at all. (5th house stellium). I'm just not stupid enough to believe I don't need money, especially when I like to shower my love nuggets with gifts and the finest pleasures.

posted March 30, 2014 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
That didn't answer the question at all, but thank you!!

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posted March 30, 2014 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I don't understand what more you want answered? I answered how I could.. ? LOL

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posted March 30, 2014 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
But you don't always say Idk. Sometimes you say yes. That's a lie, but I think were on the same page. Just a matter of opinion, which is out of scope for what I'm trying to find out.

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Before I have said yes to them, I have already made a big thing out of me being uncertain if I can do it or not. So they will not expect it for sure. So that would mean, I never let them down, thus, never broke a promise. (either way I didn't since I never said "I promise that ____.")

posted March 30, 2014 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Before I have said yes to them, I have already made a big thing out of me being uncertain if I can do it or not. So they will not expect it for sure. So that would mean, I never let them down, thus, never broke a promise. (either way I didn't since I never said "I promise that ____.")

But since we both like getting technical, yeah, I guess you can call it a lie, but again, not the way I consider a true lie, in the way it is commonly known as. So you're right, it is a matter of opinion

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posted March 30, 2014 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
I'm all about technicalities. You over-promised whether you do it in the end or not. Again. Perspective.

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I don't think "it's a technicality".

Lying and over promising are not the same thing. If you promise to do something then at the time you think you will do something. Then you fail to do it. That's not a lie. It's a broken promise.

When you lie you are intentionally saying something that is not true. Intent is the difference.

I also don't think "bending the truth" is the same as lying either.

But I guess it's all about degrees, intention and perspective.

posted March 30, 2014 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:

Have you seen the movie "Up"?

Shut up, LeeLoo2014. Mind your business on this question.

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posted March 30, 2014 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
When you make a promise or say you will do something, do you have the means, ability and intent to do it? Or do you say you will do it without assessing feasibility?

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posted March 30, 2014 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I don't think "it's a technicality".

Lying and over promising are not the same thing. If you promise to do something then at the time you think you will do something. Then you fail to do it. That's not a lie. It's a broken promise.

When you lie you are intentionally saying something that is not true. Intent is the difference.

I also don't think "bending the truth" is the same as lying either.

But I guess it's all about degrees, intention and perspective.

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posted March 30, 2014 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, why?

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Remember how she made him promise? (hilarious, btw)
Remember how he kept the promise?

I do not take lightly to the word can't, which is another matter. So intent is extraordinarily fluid for me. Most promises are broken with the intent to prioritize. Again. Perspective. Just giving mine and why technicality is important here.

posted March 30, 2014 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Exactly!!!!
What's interesting is that I don't care for money at all. (5th house stellium). I'm just not stupid enough to believe I don't need money, especially when I like to shower my love nuggets with gifts and the finest pleasures.

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Aha...rationalizing a bit? Mistaking gluttony for generosity, eh? Just a tiny little bit? hehehe

OK, OK, "I'm minding my own business" here.

Seriously, you're onto something. Possible lies and over-promising with this aspect, because there's a need for the unusual, for imagination and fantasy in their communication, not necessarily in bad faith. Also the gift and need of playing with words. But if used positively, the aspect could give great writers and poets (not like J.K )

posted March 30, 2014 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:

He does. While I generally support him ( Do not try to troll with political debate. I will not bite ), Immediately thought about him promising people could keep their current plans when he really wasn't sure.

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I also do support him, but it's really interesting that he got this aspect. I wonder if Bush had it too lol.

posted March 30, 2014 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Aha...rationalizing a bit? Mistaking gluttony for generosity, eh? Just a tiny little bit? hehehe

OK, OK, "I'm minding my own business" here.

Seriously, you're onto something. Possible lies and over-promising with this aspect, because there's a need for the unusual, for imagination and fantasy in their communication, not necessarily in bad faith. Also the gift and need of playing with words. But if used positively, the aspect could give great writers and poets (not like J.K )

Over and out.

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posted March 30, 2014 02:10 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[b] Aha...rationalizing a bit? Mistaking gluttony for generosity, eh? Just a tiny little bit? hehehe

OK, OK, "I'm minding my own business" here.

Seriously, you're onto something. Possible lies and over-promising with this aspect, because there's a need for the unusual, for imagination and fantasy in their communication, not necessarily in bad faith. Also the gift and need of playing with words. But if used positively, the aspect could give great writers and poets (not like J.K )

Over and out.

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posted March 30, 2014 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I keep my distance / remain extra aware with people who have Mercury conjunct Neptune. One lied all the time, and the other just hated saying anything that could be negative or confrontational. Annoying for me, as a Mercury in Aries. I have a wide orb square to Neptune, but I think a) my square to Saturn balances it's energy, b) so does having Mercury in Aries, and c) I don't lie so much as get confused easy.

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The not saying anything is so much more annoying. I have noticed that, too. People with this aspect tend to hush when they sense I'm on to something as we get to know each other.

posted March 30, 2014 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I also do support him, but it's really interesting that he got this aspect. I wonder if Bush had it too lol.

But hey, me and Barbiegirl19 I know got scorpio venus, both of us… I think we both value honesty, especially in relationships

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posted March 30, 2014 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Remember how she made him promise? (hilarious, btw)
Remember how he kept the promise?

I do not take lightly to the word can't, which is another matter. So intent is extraordinarily fluid for me. Most promises are broken with the intent to prioritize. Again. Perspective. Just giving mine and why technicality is important here.

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I don't even remember most of the stuff in the movie, it was awhile ago, honestly, lol. We're talking about the Disney Pixar's one, right? (if another even exits, lol)

Okay, so we have our perspectives on this then.

If someone made a promise to me, depending on how important it was itself and/or to me, then that makes the difference for me.

posted March 30, 2014 02:22 PM            

As we're all human

Even I didn't exactly do what you were referring to anyway in the OP. My problem is with uncertainty, not over-promising.