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LoadedPistil
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posted March 30, 2014 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find that people with hard aspects between Mercury and Neptune have a hard time saying things they won't or don't intend to follow through on.

They over-promise and under-deliver. Sometimes they say things because it sounds good at the time, but they have no plan of action. Some do it to mend a situation for the moment to mend a leaky pipe to an argument or dispute.

What are your experiences with Mercury ❌ Neptune?
What aspect do you have?

I have Mercury Trine Neptune.

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posted March 30, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Generalization is a diseases that has to be cured.

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LoadedPistil
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posted March 30, 2014 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vickymadness:

Generalization is a diseases that has to be cured.


My experience is not a generalization, but thanks for playing our game!

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next to neptune
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posted March 30, 2014 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mercury in libra square neptune in capricorn exact, like almost 0 degrees.

I don't even know what to say to this lol. But I'm not a liar, but I do tend to over-promise things maybe…

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theunknown
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posted March 30, 2014 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vickymadness:

Generalization is a diseases that has to be cured.


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LoadedPistil
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posted March 30, 2014 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by next to neptune:
I have mercury in libra square neptune in capricorn exact, like almost 0 degrees.

I don't even know what to say to this lol. But I'm not a liar, but I do tend to over-promise things maybe…


Where's your sun? Do you have any Mercury Saturn?

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posted March 30, 2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Where's your sun? Do you have any Mercury Saturn?


I'm a virgo sun, and yes I also got mercury square saturn (and also mercury square jupiter)

I have a tendency to bend the truth a little and over exaggerate, but I usually correct myself right afterwards, probably because of saturn (luckily)

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LoadedPistil
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posted March 30, 2014 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by next to neptune:
I'm a virgo sun, and yes I also got mercury square saturn (and also mercury square jupiter)

I have a tendency to bend the truth a little and over exaggerate, but I usually correct myself right afterwards, probably because of saturn (luckily)


Like you just did about not being a liar? Now it's you "bend" the truth.

Looks like I found what I'm looking for. Why do you do this and how do you feel when someone calls you out on it?
How much if your feelings are actually attached to what you said the first time?

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted March 30, 2014 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me, a liar? Haha.

So far from the truth.

I'm either considerate of other people's feelings and therefore, make it seem lighter, or blunt as hell. But never a liar.

Mercury in Libra in the 3rd House square Neptune in Capricorn in the 6th House

I used to never break promises, but now I have become kinda flaky, so I have to say I do in a way. Except, I never say "I promise that ___".

So perhaps, in a way, saying that I am going to do something and then I don't is technically considered lying.

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posted March 30, 2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Me, a liar? Haha.

Soooo far from the truth.

I'm either considerate of other people's feelings and therefore, make it seem lighter, or blunt as hell. But never a liar.

Mercury in Libra in the 3rd House square Neptune in Capricorn int the 6th House

I used to never break promises, but now I have become kinda flaky, so I have to say I do in a way. Except, I never say "I promise that ___".

So perhaps, in a way, breaking a promise is technically considered lying.


You guys are lying about lying?! Yeah. This is going on my list of worst natal aspects for dating. LOL I'm seeing a pattern here

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posted March 30, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even more interesting is that each of you have these planets in your screen names.

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posted March 30, 2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
You guys are lying about lying?! Yeah. This is going on my list of worst natal aspects for dating. LOL I'm seeing a pattern here



I'm not lying about lying.

I don't lie in the sense that "lying" is used.

All I'm saying is that "breaking a promise" is technically considered lying. And I am being "honest" about that

Make sure you acknowledge this post, because if not, you're being completely ignorant about your observation of this aspect.

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theunknown
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posted March 30, 2014 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister has mercury square neptune, uranus, saturn, jupiter

She's not a liar. I mean she has exaggerated ego and sense of intellectuality but not a liar

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posted March 30, 2014 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I'm not lying about lying.

I don't lie in the sense that "lying" is used.

All I'm saying is that "breaking a promise" is technically considered lying. And I am being "honest" about that.



So when you break promises, you had full intention in the beginning?

ETA: I see you've edited your post. The title speaks for my suspicion. Also notice the word "study"

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posted March 30, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:

So when you break promises, you had full intention in the beginning?



No. I just wasn't sure in the beginning. So instead of letting them down, I say yeah.

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posted March 30, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury Conjunct Neptune. I'm not going to lie, lol. I have lied. Haven't we all? I only lie if it's something that is relatively insignificant and would avoid conflict. In a relationship, however, I am honest 99.9999999% of the time. And the only reason I'm not saying 100 is because I don't remember if I've lied or not. Maybe the Conjunction isn't quite as hard. I am a good liar though when I need to be, if that counts for anything. However, I am generally a very honest person. I am sometimes so direct/blunt in my honesty that it comes across as rude.

As far as promises go, I don't make them, and I don't let others make them to me. I try my best and see where that goes. If you have full intentions to do something and make the promise but can't because of something out of your hands, then it's still thought of as you breaking a promise. But I put a lot of weight on my words for the most part. If I say I'll do something, I will do it. This goes along with the discussion on Aquarians putting weight on words. I have an Aquarius Stellium.

Mercury and Neptune are at 26 and 28 Capricorn, respectively, in the 5th House (of romance).

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posted March 30, 2014 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
No. I just wasn't sure in the beginning. So instead of letting them down, I say yeah.

Ahhhhh.... I see. Ever face any awful consequences from doing this?

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posted March 30, 2014 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Like you just did about not being a liar? Now it's you "bend" the truth.

Looks like I found what I'm looking for. Why do you do this and how do you feel when someone calls you out on it?
How much if your feelings are actually attached to what you said the first time?


Hmmm this is getting difficult now, cause no matter what I say now, you will probably think I'm "bending" the truth a little:P
I have never lied about serious stuff though (but what is serious stuff lol?)

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posted March 30, 2014 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Ahhhhh.... I see. Ever face any awful consequences from doing this?


Not really.
Well I mean, they started to assume that I can never decide on things. I even say "Idk" and they say "Yes or No?, Yes or No? Not a Maybe or Idk, a Yes or No?" And they put me on the spot.

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posted March 30, 2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by next to neptune:
Hmmm this is getting difficult now, cause no matter what I say now, you will probably think I'm "bending" the truth a little:P
I have never lied about serious stuff though (but what is serious stuff lol?)

It's like I'm talking to the people I'm thinking about!! I can't believe this!! This is AWESOME!!!

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posted March 30, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Not really.
Well I mean, they started to assume that I can never decide on things. I even say "Idk" and they say "Yes or No?, Yes or No? Not a Maybe or Idk, a Yes or No?" And they put me on the spot.

Where's your sun?

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posted March 30, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theunknown:
My sister has mercury square neptune, uranus, saturn, jupiter

She's not a liar. I mean she has exaggerated ego and sense of intellectuality but not a liar


Interesting. Thank you.

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posted March 30, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
It's like I'm talking to the people I'm thinking about!! I can't believe this!! This is AWESOME!!!


Your Virgo Mercury is sure jumping to conclusions on this.

Everyone lies! It's a matter of survival of the individual. Whether that be socially, or even life or death.
I was hoping that I wouldn't have point this out.

And to put it blunt, this is really generalized.

"Mercury in hard aspect to Neptune are liars and make promises that they cannot keep."

Only them. Yeah right.

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posted March 30, 2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Where's your sun?


Virgo Sun

You're making this out to be a witch hunt, lol.

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posted March 30, 2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Your Virgo Mercury is sure jumping to conclusions on this.

Everyone lies! It's a matter of survival of the individual. Whether that be socially, or even life or death.


Certainly not jumping to conclusions. I just feel like the 100 questions I had can be answered with similarity of asking the people I know personal with this aspect.
Sure everyone lies sometime, but not habitually or necessarily in the same way or for the same reasons.

I'm looking for (like it says in the op) people who lie or over-promise. YOU identified yourself as one of those people. You're naturally the person I was looking for to ask questions.

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