posted March 30, 2014 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
But to be honest, you are generalizing this aspect. I'm sure you will find a lot of people that have done the same thing, and they will not even have the aspect.

As we're all human

Even I didn't exactly do what you were referring to anyway in the OP. My problem is with uncertainty, not over-promising.

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I'm absolutely not generalizing as I have made no statement that this is a rule. This is something I noticed as a pattern with people I know and wanted to ask people who had this aspect if the could identify this in themselves and if so what their perception was on their own behavior. If you don't have this aspect, you're not who I'm looking for. If you do and you don't identify with this behavior, you're not who I'm looking for.

BUT YOU were exactly who I was looking for.

One person I'm thinking of says the same thing "uncertainty". Invaluable exchange. Once again, thank you.

posted March 30, 2014 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:

BUT YOU were exactly who I was looking for.

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A human? Well you will find a lot of those

posted March 30, 2014 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
A human? Well you will find a lot of those

It IS generalizing.

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Dissect the comment all you want. I'm here for my selfish purposes.

posted March 30, 2014 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Dissect the comment all you want. I'm here for my selfish purposes.

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posted March 30, 2014 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I'm done, a human
Because most humans do it. For what I said before, survival.
So this makes it generalized.

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posted March 30, 2014 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
For your orientation Geroge W Bush have neptune sextile mercury, and sun square neptune

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Interesting!!! Any Saturn Neptune?

posted March 30, 2014 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Interesting!!! Any Saturn Neptune?

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posted March 30, 2014 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Not at all his saturn is completely unaspected!!:O

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EVEN MORE INTERESTING AND TELLING!!!

"Saturn, the planet of time, prudence, and effort, may express himself in a tricky way when he is unaspected. Inhibition, inferiority complex, melancholy, and failures are the negative characteristics of this planet of ill repute."

The word failure definitely rings a bell!!! Remember that google scandal?! Type failure, click I'm feeling lucky, and end up at whitehouse.gov?
He's the reason they took that feature out.

posted March 30, 2014 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
EVEN MORE INTERESTING AND TELLING!!!

"Saturn, the planet of time, prudence, and effort, may express himself in a tricky way when he is unaspected. Inhibition, inferiority complex, melancholy, and failures are the negative characteristics of this planet of ill repute."

The word failure definitely rings a bell!!! Remember that google scandal?! Type failure, click I'm feeling lucky, and end up at whitehouse.gov?
He's the reason they took that feature out.

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posted March 30, 2014 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Hahaha! I wonder why they even chose him in the first place… but he actually got a leo mercury in 1st house, closely conjunct pluto… it's really extremely interesting

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Wow. I am really wowed by this.

posted March 30, 2014 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
They over-promise and under-deliver. - This is exactly what I told my ex when I was breaking up with him. Word for word. I just went to look at his chart... Mercury conjunct Neptune 4 degrees.

Well, theres one of my experiences to add to the study.

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posted March 30, 2014 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
and what about his saturn? I think we could be on to something here… cause I don't think this aspect stands alone, cause if there is several saturn aspects involved and aspecting mercury as well, I don't think it's the same…saturn is really restrictive and disciplinary, so combined with this I don't think a person could make themselves lie to others… I have mercury square saturn myself and 3 planets in caprcicorn (neptune, saturn and uranus) and I cannot lie overly much, though I admit that I have a tendency to "bend the truth" and under-deliver(maybe, I could also just be self critical right now)

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posted March 30, 2014 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
They over-promise and under-deliver. - This is exactly what I told my ex when I was breaking up with him. Word for word. I just went to look at his chart... Mercury conjunct Neptune 4 degrees.

Well, theres one of my experiences to add to the study.

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posted March 30, 2014 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
and what about his saturn? I think we could be on to something here… cause I don't think this aspect stands alone, cause if there is several saturn aspects involved and aspecting mercury as well, I don't think it's the same…saturn is really restrictive and disciplinary, so combined with this I don't think a person could make themselves lie to others… I have mercury square saturn myself and 3 planets in caprcicorn (neptune, saturn and uranus) and I cannot lie overly much, though I admit that I have a tendency to "bend the truth" and under-deliver(maybe, I could also just be self critical right now)

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This is what I've been thinking, but I have to find the Mercury-Neptune people first. I have mercury trine Neptune and Mercury Sextile Saturn. When I SHOULD lie, I don't. Like Mercurian Intellect said. Defense mechanism. I don't have whatever self preservation aspect is needed to lie.

posted March 30, 2014 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
They over-promise and under-deliver. - This is exactly what I told my ex when I was breaking up with him. Word for word. I just went to look at his chart... Mercury conjunct Neptune 4 degrees.

Well, theres one of my experiences to add to the study.

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That's fine. But some of the issues/confusing on this thread is that over promising/breaking promises/under delivering and lying are not (necessarily) the same thing.

posted March 30, 2014 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
"imagination is more important than knowledge" - albert Einstein, thank you for summing up mercury/Neptune for us! We don't want your pettiness, now shoo dream with us, or don't.

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Hardest I laughed all day

Thank you!!

I do need to look up a pettiness aspect. I'll admit that my polarity for importance is different from others. You planned a dinner with me and can't make it? Bad, but not too bad. You didn't say good morning? Colombian neck-tie

posted March 30, 2014 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
That's fine. But some of the issues/confusing on this thread is that over promising/breaking promises/under delivering and lying are not (necessarily) the same thing.

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You can make that assertation/debate, but that's irrelevant to the study.

posted March 30, 2014 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
Saturn trine mars, sextile mars and sextile jupiter. No hard aspects to saturn. For mercury it only conjunct neptune and trine pluto.

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posted March 30, 2014 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
You can make that assertation/debate, but that's irrelevant to the study.

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Ignoring results you don't like is not very scientific.

As was said above, Neptune is about blurring reality. The person making the "over promise" in most cases probably believes what they are saying at the time they say it and if you are going to push it, they may even think the lie is the truth.

posted March 30, 2014 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
This is what I've been thinking, but I have to find the Mercury-Neptune people first. I have mercury trine Neptune and Mercury Sextile Saturn. When I SHOULD lie, I don't. Like Mercurian Intellect said. Defense mechanism. I don't have whatever self preservation aspect is needed to lie.

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Me too…when I actually would like to lie, I just don't cause it's actually just easier to tell the truth in the end…
But I do tend to exaggerate numbers or feelings in particular, if I think something is expensive for an example, I will tell people "OMG this shoe just costs like a thousand" when it's maybe only 500…

posted March 30, 2014 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
This is what I've been thinking, but I have to find the Mercury-Neptune people first. I have mercury trine Neptune and Mercury Sextile Saturn. When I SHOULD lie, I don't. Like Mercurian Intellect said. Defense mechanism. I don't have whatever self preservation aspect is needed to lie.

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Me too…when I actually would like to lie, I just don't cause it's actually just easier to tell the truth in the end…
But I do tend to exaggerate numbers or feelings in particular, if I think something is expensive for an example, I will tell people "OMG this shoe just costs like a thousand" when it's maybe only 500…