posted March 30, 2014 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Ignoring results you don't like is not very scientific.

As was said above, Neptune is about blurring reality. The person making the "over promise" in most cases probably believes what they are saying at the time they say it and if you are going to push it, they may even think the lie is the truth.

Is the dream really a lie? Not if the intent is not to be false, can it really be a lie?

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posted March 30, 2014 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Those are not results because they don't address the hypothesis. It's called a finding. Please do not call me to the carpet for science. You will lose

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posted March 30, 2014 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I think my point is your hypothesis is false.

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posted March 30, 2014 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
THAT is fine! The other statement is irrelevant.

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posted March 30, 2014 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
You were too quick! I rephrased what I was trying to say.

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posted March 30, 2014 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Channeling Freud here when I say it doesn't matter Thanks for your input

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Freud did not have Merc/Nept aspects.

Good luck with your study.

posted March 30, 2014 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
That's fine. But some of the issues/confusing on this thread is that over promising/breaking promises/under delivering and lying are not (necessarily) the same thing.

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Ah, I did not read the entire thread. The first part with over promising and under delivering really hit home for me.

posted March 30, 2014 07:37 PM            

I have a Pisces Mercury. I have nothing against lying as long as it doesn't harm anyone.. and I know that we all lie.... *but* Mercury square Neptune - Jesus Christ! They just take it to a whole new level O_O

They also don't completely understand the difference between their lies and reality and they feel completely entitled to make up their own version... often assuming that "well it's close enough... unicorn or zebra... whatever!"

I don't feel outraged or angered by this behaviour. I am just extra intrigued lol It's also amazing how they react when confronted.

These people will never admit to a lie... because they don't even understand the concept that they actually lied.. It's interesting to see the things they come up with - to justify their actions and pretend that actually - they are honest O_O Sometimes they will even accuse you claiming that - actually - you're the one who lied lollll

As a Pisces Mercury I find it kind of amusing and bizarre.
I am not disturbed though... just amused.

When I lie I know I lied.. and I know my reasons.. and if confronted - I would gladly explain to the person exactly what I said, why I said it - and wouldn't at all feel guilty.

posted March 30, 2014 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Merc square Neptune makes up a lot of stuff.. They lie to their boss, their teachers, their family, their friends, the state - everyone has a different story on just about everything.
Some of these lies are truly outlandish.. the stuff stories & legends are made of.

I have a Pisces Mercury. I have nothing against lying as long as it doesn't harm anyone.. and I know that we all lie.... *but* Mercury square Neptune - Jesus Christ! They just take it to a whole new level O_O

They also don't completely understand the difference between their lies and reality and they feel completely entitled to make up their own version... often assuming that "well it's close enough... unicorn or zebra... whatever!"

I don't feel outraged or angered by this behaviour. I am just extra intrigued lol It's also amazing how they react when confronted.

These people will never admit to a lie... because they don't even understand the concept that they actually lied.. It's interesting to see the things they come up with - to justify their actions and pretend that actually - they are honest O_O Sometimes they will even accuse you claiming that - actually - you're the one who lied lollll

As a Pisces Mercury I find it kind of amusing and bizarre.
I am not disturbed though... just amused.

When I lie I know I lied.. and I know my reasons.. and if confronted - I would gladly explain to the person exactly what I said, why I said it - and wouldn't at all feel guilty.

Merc square Neptune - seems to want to have a "perfect" image... as a very honest person... so they actually feel very imposed upon when someone accuses them.
As a Pisces Merc I don't really understand this since I don't care what anyone thinks of me (or maybe that's more my Aries Sun).

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The way a pisces sun out it to me when I asked about this phenomenon of another pisces sun is that they always "mean it" at the time. It's never an intention to deceive. It's their dream.
Listen. I have Neptune in Sagittarius on my Descendant. I don't have time for this!!! There is but one truth!!