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yellowelevator
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posted October 15, 2014 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am technically a Water Void with only Pluto in Scorpio. But I am a highly, highly emotional person. I'm great at hiding it, yes, but I do so as to not radiate so much intensity or make others uncomfortable with my true feelings. I am never cold though, and I often find myself surprisingly acting kinder and sweeter than other people I know.

Astrologically, even though it may go against the rules to some when it comes to lacking elements, I don't truly look at myself as being really Water Void. I do have a Cancer ASC, a Pisces MC, planets in all three water houses, and Neptune and Moon are my 2nd and 3rd most dominant planets according to Pullen.

I have gone through severe depressions before, all during my teen years. I still struggle with it, and I'm only 22. Deep down my own emotions and feelings are so incredibly strong to me, I definitely don't 'not feel.' Like I stated, I've just become great over the past year or two at hiding a lot of it, because I suppose vulnerability scares me to a large extent. And I have received a ton of negative responses/actions before when I DID outwardly show emotion or talk about my issues. That's upsetting in itself and left me feeling very misunderstood, so to compensate for it I decided I would show less and less of what really goes on inside.

In my own opinion I do believe it is possible for the energy of the houses to compensate for a lack of any element, if planets happen to fall in houses with that specific element. That is just me though.

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DeepFreeze
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posted October 15, 2014 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sense a few similarities.
I was curious as we have the same sun/moon combo.

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yellowelevator
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posted October 15, 2014 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I sense a few similarities.
I was curious as we have the same sun/moon combo.

As do I. I figured there might be because of that, too.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 16, 2014 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Well, since he is a cap with cap venus, and I have cap venus, I will speak for these placements.

I think cap people are very self-critical. Of course his moon in taurus would make him emotionally stable (unless opposite pluto) and very sensual. But cap venus would take a lot of things personally. We don't really "manage" emotions, we express them slowly and we are slow to react. We might self-therapy by running, walking or doing practical things for ourselves. Lol.

If someone rejects a cap venus, he/she would think about all his/her flaws. We dont tend to blame others for our problems because we are self-reliant. We will go home, think about our perceived flaws for years and try to change it (Cap is cardinal).

I only have taurus ascendant but I think Taurus likes things to be sensual and real. Things that are real, comfy, nice texture just feel good. The keys to earth signs are all the senses (touch, smell, look, etc..)

I would suggest that you listen to songs written by cap/cap venus and you will have a clearer insight.


Well, in respect to his ex-wife at least, he is blaming her for everything. He was oblivious to the fact that the relationship got sour, perhaps he did miss those cues, and he was also working too much back then. I can see it from his pov too: he thought he gave everything to the relationship (mainly money and his hard work.. but as we all know, it is not enough) and found himself 1. cheated, 2. divorced, 3. without his kids, 4. without half of his assets. I would be red angry too, anyone would. But I still think at some point he will have to own up to the fact that he neglected her because of his work and she looked elsewhere for her happiness (to be quite frank, I don't blame her too much for it, because he is simply inaccessible when he is in the work "zone"). He is purely oblivious to that fact, he thinks he's done nothing wrong. I think this is one way in which his voideness manifests.

Funny you should mention Capricorn singers, this whole madness started with one. Well, he's Sag Venus, not Cap, but his Sun is around the same degree as this guy's (mainly conj my Asc). I was disinterested in guys and relationships for a while, then I had a tiny obsession for this singer and soon after, I met Mr. Cap and started obsessing about him lol. I did a little search on astrotheme and surprisingly I like almost everyone on that list. Ha. I will take your advice. Well maybe not Jamiroquai much lol (or Pitbull eww). Mr. Cap reminds me a bit (physically) of Bradley Cooper, they have quite a few placements in common, but well, he's not THAT good looking lol. I still like him though.

Can you answer another thing for me, regarding his psychology? He seems to have friendzoned me and now he's giving me dating tips, as in who to date etc. Funny thing is he is kinda describing himself (older, financially stable, different profession than mine etc) - I kept silent because quite frankly I don't get it, I thought I was dating HIM lol. Is this some sort of twisted test Cap Venus does?!

I know Taurus mind frame quite well, these I have dated, lol. I am Taurus Venus myself (conj his Moon). I get the Taurus, I sometimes get the Cap too, maybe even his Virgo rising. But at the end of the day, I'm still mostly Fire and must act like it.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 16, 2014 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DF,

I think you described the low water, even Water singleton quite well. I've been through some of those phases, perhaps at different ages. I have troubles with too powerful emotions as well, especially anger and despair/hopelessness and I have wrestled with depression myself. I tried to process through them though, instead of just sweeping them under the carpet like I did when younger (Sag Moon just wanted to be happy) and it helped. I started to change/mature emotionally with the Pluto conj Moon/Neptune transit that started in 2006.. since then it's been quite a roller-coaster ride, emotionally speaking.

Thank you for sharing your story.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 16, 2014 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
You act as if people with water voids are aliens.lol they feel everything that a normal person would feel without the emotional hysterics.

Well, they kinda are. Water voids, true ones, not wannabes like you are quite rare.

I just want to understand them and find it difficult.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 16, 2014 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for sharing your story, yellowelevator!

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posted October 16, 2014 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe they are not good at pupici, just a guess?

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 16, 2014 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
maybe they are not good at pupici, just a guess?

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, I hope not! That would make me very, very sad!

I know I should keep searching for a passionate Fire man, they know pupici well, don't they?

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Aries Eagle
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posted October 16, 2014 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wish you the best in everything whether its fire man or water void man you are great person and deserves the best

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Selene
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posted October 16, 2014 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
You act as if people with water voids are aliens.lol they feel everything that a normal person would feel without the emotional hysterics.

Tell me about that. I can have really bad emotional hysterics.

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Selene
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posted October 16, 2014 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always thought that having only Pluto in water counts as water void, because Pluto is generational and definitely not personal.


So if it is a water singleton, it may act like a complete opposite (in terms of emotions)?

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DeepFreeze
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posted October 16, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:
I always thought that having only Pluto in water counts as water void, because Pluto is generational and definitely not personal.


So if it is a water singleton, it may act like a complete opposite (in terms of emotions)?


I can see both sides. Sometimes I consider myself void even with only Uranus. But, I think it depends on the individual. For example my water planet aspects moon, bringing that water over a little. I think it's worthy of a contribution to a thread like this though not a TRUE void.
I wasn't going to contribute until someone begged me.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 16, 2014 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selene:
I always thought that having only Pluto in water counts as water void, because Pluto is generational and definitely not personal.


So if it is a water singleton, it may act like a complete opposite (in terms of emotions)?


I have thought about this. To me, a person with a generational planet in water has low water and is similar to a water void but probably not the degree of a true water void.

I am a true earth void.

I don't see a generational planet in water making the person strong in water as one would think would be the case with a singleton.

I think the singleton theory works more with personal planets.

That is my observation, anyway.

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posted October 16, 2014 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add to this, Lala always talks about earth houses and I have Saturn in the 2nd House and several planets in the 10th, so this would help to give earth but I, personally, feel that voids cannot really be overcome, per se.
They are like having a shorter arm. You can work around it but it is there lol

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posted October 16, 2014 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yet how do you explain that some people excel in their voids?

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posted October 16, 2014 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Yet how do you explain that some people excel in their voids?


Maybe it's like a lesson that these people are forced to confront (into astrology or not). It hits them right in the face.
Where other people may be good but it lacks as much focus, doesn't stand out so gets less attention in their personal development.
Or, maybe such as my case, it's something that doesn't come naturally as far as controlling it and expressing it properly. It needs to be learned.

Just a thought. Idk

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I'm so cappy
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posted October 16, 2014 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahem, stop dismissing my water singleton

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Ami Anne
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posted October 16, 2014 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Yet how do you explain that some people excel in their voids?


That is a VERY interesting question. They say that money comes easily to earth voids. I have always been blessed in this way.

I don't know the answer to this lol

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posted October 16, 2014 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have thought about this. To me, a person with a generational planet in water has low water and is similar to a water void but probably not the degree of a true water void.

I am a true earth void.

I don't see a generational planet in water making the person strong in water as one would think would be the case with a singleton.

I think the singleton theory works more with personal planets.

That is my observation, anyway.


Well, i think so too, but i am even overly emotional, which i shouldn't be, if i was to consider me a true water void. Well, that's maybe Neptune aspects pretty much everything in my chart and a Hades Moon, but i have no clue actually.

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posted October 16, 2014 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes,neptune aspecting many things would make you Pisces like.

The charts are always more complicated than at first glance and as we grow as Astrologers, we see this fact more and more clearly

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posted October 16, 2014 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew someone with all air planets in air houses. For some reason he was very clingy :-/ I have one planet in air (Pluto) and I out "aired" him which is funny seeing as I have a water stellium in Cancer trine Scorpio Uranus, NN (and IC).

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posted October 16, 2014 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I knew someone with all air planets in air houses. For some reason he was very clingy :-/

WOW

Has to be a reason. What about the ASC?

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posted October 16, 2014 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

The charts are always more complicated than at first glance and as we grow as Astrologers, we see this fact more and more clearly


Exactly!

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posted October 16, 2014 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
IMO singletons are a big deal. They are powerhouses. Even if they're generational (they still affect us at a personal level).


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