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Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2015 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are some that are red flags for me. Will the man abuse? Maybe. Maybe not. I don’t know but these aspects seem to be in the charts of men who have.

1. Moon sq Mars

This man separates his emotions from his passions. This is not good because he can build up his emotions and explode. This man separates his feminine side from his masculine one. This is the aspect for the Madonna/***** complex. He may see women in a black and white way, as this complex suggests. He may not like his feminine side or woman.

2. Algol conj the ASC

This aspect gets bad press because it is a bad aspect. It is seen in the charts of many serial killers. It is the impetus to do evil. Does one have to do evil? No. However , people with Algol conjunct the ASC probably have more urges than the average bear.

. Moon sq Mars

This man separates his emotions from his passions. This is not good because he can build up his emotions and explode. This man separates his feminine side from his masculine one. This is the aspect for the Madonna/***** complex. He may see women in a black and white way, as this complex suggests. He may not like his feminine side or woman.

2. Algol conj the ASC

This aspect gets bad press because it is a bad aspect. It is seen in the charts of many serial killers. It is the impetus to do evil. Does one have to do evil? No. However, people with Algol conjunct the ASC probably have more urges than the average bear.

3. Nessus, the asteroid of the abuser, conjunct the ASC, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus or North Node.

Any of these would make me pull back and reevaluate the person. Is this fair? I suppose not but real life is real life.

4. Pluto conjunct the ASC or in the 1st house.

This is not an aspect for abuse but one for power. The power could be that of a great leader. However, if abuse aspects are with it, I would watch out.

5. A Cardinal ASC.

The Cardinal ASC is known to be a stronger person. This does not show abuse but strength. If it is combined with aspects for abuse, I would watch out.

6. Unaspected Pluto.

This person is fated to learn about power. He must do it on his own, as is the case for all Unaspected Planets. Has be become a Saint or a Sinner? That remains to be seen but I would watch out.

7. Unaspected Jupiter

This placement makes for a person who must decide the extent of his own conscience. This is a very important matter. Will he form a strong conscience or choose to not have one, at all. I would watch out.

8. A Full 5th House

This would be an aspect for a player. If you marry him and he still plays, that is abuse. I would watch a full 5th House.

9. Pluto conjunct Saturn

This is known as a cruelty aspect.

10. Mars square Pluto

This can be a violent temper.

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posted February 01, 2015 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enlightening!

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posted February 01, 2015 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1,4, and 5.

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posted February 01, 2015 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess you better keep away.

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posted February 01, 2015 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I guess you better keep away.

The Moon will keep me away

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posted February 01, 2015 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Enlightening!


Thank you, Randall.

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posted February 03, 2015 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterPan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive got disturbingly many of those :P algol conjunct asc, mars opposite pluto and asc. unaspected jupiter.

i don't know about the others but the jupiter one intrigues me, i can actually control my own concience to a large extenct. i tend to have little concience on a personal level, but on a global one i have very high moral standards for myself. meaning i could without a doubt kill someone for the greater good, but id feel very bad if i did something that would harm the world as a whole...

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posted February 03, 2015 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand what you are saying, my Friend. If you don't have a natural empathy, you will need a code of conduct to stay out of trouble lol

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posted February 03, 2015 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shyberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I guess you better keep away.

oh don't be so dramatic

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posted February 03, 2015 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wouldnt asteroid sado also be included?

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posted February 03, 2015 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful.... my 10 year old son has AC on Algol and his Pluto is conjunct Mercury, neither of them make any other aspects.

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posted February 03, 2015 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shyberry:
oh don't be so dramatic

Telling a Leo not to be dramatic?
HA!!!
I could say the opposite to you, "don't be so serious".
I was just messing anyway.

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posted February 03, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterPan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I understand what you are saying, my Friend. If you don't have a natural empathy, you will need a code of conduct to stay out of trouble lol



Yes, that is one aspect of it, but i feel genuinely bad when i see for example world leaders abusing their power etc, or atleast it makes me very angry.

I'm also water void so maybe that contributes to it. but i'm not completly without concience lol.

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posted February 03, 2015 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Heather:
Wouldnt asteroid sado also be included?


Yes, I wrote this before I started using it. GREAT point, Heather!

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posted February 03, 2015 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Beautiful.... my 10 year old son has AC on Algol and his Pluto is conjunct Mercury, neither of them make any other aspects.


Wow Algol conj the ASC is rare.

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posted February 03, 2015 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Water void, too. What an amazing chart. Question, what has your actual life been like? Family? Warm family? Cold family? Abuse? etc

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posted February 03, 2015 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some o those. Pluto conjunct Saturn. A cardinal asc, and mars square pluto.. I can get really angry and nasty but only i you push my buttotns or are cruel to me. My dad has been cruel o me and i have barked back an even scared him, and everybody is scared o my dad lol

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posted February 03, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Put up your chart again if you want. I think you have Nessus conj the ASC, if I remember. Anyway, if you want, we can look at it again.

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posted February 03, 2015 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars square pluto - yes, I agree with you on this. I've noticed when it's a tight square the person is an extreme sadist.

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posted February 03, 2015 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
Mars square pluto - yes, I agree with you on this. I've noticed when it's a tight square the person is an extreme sadist.


Thanks, Ann. This aspect in synastry may bode for violence, too.

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posted February 03, 2015 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noted this placement makes the person mentally abusive and extremely vengeful. Very bad temper.

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posted February 03, 2015 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have No.10. Mars square Pluto. Yes, I tend to have a bad temper, however, most of time I don't. Quite a few gf who has this placement too because they were born a few days away from me.
BF has unexpected Mars, I think his temper is worse than mine, could be more violent if necessary.

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posted February 03, 2015 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mollywu:
I have No.10. Mars square Pluto. Yes, I tend to have a bad temper, however, most of time I don't. Quite a few gf who has this placement too because they were born a few days away from me.
BF has unexpected Mars, I think his temper is worse than mine, could be more violent if necessary.


YES Unaspected mars is the UBER worse temper

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posted February 05, 2015 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted February 05, 2015 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My girlfriend has both Nessus and Sado on my Mars

I have Sado on her retrograde Scorpio Venus and I also have North Node in 7th house Square Mars

Maybe for my case, it goes both ways?

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