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Faith
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posted July 30, 2015 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Double checking. It's weird: that same stellium happened the year I was born, but included Juno.

And your Juno is on my moon? Then it opposes my Juno which is on your sun.

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I think it's an unconscious pull, rather than conscious, and it's just a part of the personality, not necessarily about happiness.

Hmm. Need to give this more thought and reply later.

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posted July 30, 2015 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it's just about truth.

Scorpio is motivated to uncover the truth of any situation...and the truth hurts...but grappling with the truth can be a turning point, and transformative, and can ignite a rebirth.

So it's not really happy or sad -- more like a process that can generate a full range of emotions.

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No I would say vampires are something arian. Aries moon? I dunno. Because vampires drain others to serve themself. But they can't really see beyond their need to feed on others. The body's needs at the moment are greater than anything else. They are unemotional and unempathetic, if they are the seductive type, it is in a very narcissistic, manipulative self serving way. Not at all sensual, more predatory. Maybe a scorpio with an aries moon? Or libra with aries moon.

Maybe unevolved scorp but from what Ive seen, the type of plutonic people that act this way, draining others energy to make themselves feel better without really caring for the other person or wanting anything more than the excitement of the drama... they are doing it to try to numb themselves of a previous hurt. Not because they are simply itching for instant gratification and dont mind stepping on people to get it. Scorpios are the opposite of the kind of people that need instant gratification.

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posted July 31, 2015 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Double checking. It's weird: that same stellium happened the year I was born, but included Juno.

And your Juno is on my moon? Then it opposes my Juno which is on your sun.


ahhh this...I thought you wanted to introduce me to someone or viceversa


Faith, our synastry is outstanding. It must be there, in Tinkerbell's thread. It's extremely connected. This is one of the impressive aspects, this mixed DW with Juno/Moon + Juno/Sun. How it could play out in a potential friendship: I think we could see the ideal partner in each other and often think "I wish Faith was a boy" ;get inspired of how one wants to react or be treated in relationships based on the model offered by the other. Or be very protective of each other, consider ourselves a team. It's a strong contact on the Virgo/Pisces axis, emphasizing this kind of interaction, this kind of team: every day harmonious life, especially with Juno, feeling at home. Virgo/Pisces are known to be a very good couple/team in general.

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posted July 31, 2015 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About Scorpio...I am the same, BTW, with my strong 8th house energy, as I described, the flair for drama and intensity. The flair for crises. Scorpio's domain.
I am not sure it's about the truth, I think Scorpio energy is looking to live an emotionally intense life and opportunities for constant transformation. All the way striving for security as well, being a fixed sign.
In fact, they are testing the level of security by an ongoing survival of the crises in the couple. Peace and tranquility is not exactly their domain and the lack of action in this respect can actually get them very depressed.

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posted July 31, 2015 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In fact, they are testing the level of security by an ongoing survival of the crises in the couple. Peace and tranquility is not exactly their domain and the lack of action in this respect can actually get them very depressed.

THAT is what I was wondering about!!!

(Add more exclamation points in your mind; I don't want to blow out your eardrums. )

And if someone refuses to be provoked, just chokes down the tension and doesn't react...that would not impress the Scorpio-type at all, right? They don't give brownie points for nerves of steel.

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I think we could see the ideal partner in each other and often think "I wish Faith was a boy" ;get inspired of how one wants to react or be treated in relationships based on the model offered by the other. Or be very protective of each other, consider ourselves a team.

You'd find me boring, though.

But yeah, I do like many, many things about you, and if we were single and carefree and gay, what would there be to stop us??

Hmm, I guess my college boyfriend also had Juno in Pisces which may explain how we lasted so long.

*checking*

Yes, he's got Juno-Jupiter at 15 Pisces. But the orbs aren't tight enough, my moon's at 18 Pisces, Juno 19 Virgo.

Hence the breakup.

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posted July 31, 2015 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for chiming in, bansheequeen.

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
No I would say vampires are something arian. Aries moon? I dunno. Because vampires drain others to serve themself. But they can't really see beyond their need to feed on others. The body's needs at the moment are greater than anything else. They are unemotional and unempathetic, if they are the seductive type, it is in a very narcissistic, manipulative self serving way. Not at all sensual, more predatory. Maybe a scorpio with an aries moon? Or libra with aries moon.

I'm always dumbfounded, reading about Aries moons. Surely they can't be this bad....?
I don't know any in real life, not that I know of.

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Maybe unevolved scorp but from what Ive seen, the type of plutonic people that act this way, draining others energy to make themselves feel better without really caring for the other person or wanting anything more than the excitement of the drama... they are doing it to try to numb themselves of a previous hurt.

Good observation...this might apply in the instances I was thinking of when I started the thread.

Well I thought, perhaps their loved ones harmed them as they were growing up, creating a belief like, "You always hurt the ones you love" and an impulse to bond over pain.

I'm not really thinking of Scorpio suns, by the way. More like Scorpio Venus, Venus-Pluto, etc.

I think it might be a Venus thing.

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infinite.nebula
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posted July 31, 2015 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was reading "did you really love me" and the rest of the comments and it made me think of a song.
Do I wanna know? By the Arctic Monkeys
I thought it makes me think of Scorpio moon so just for fun I decided to look up the songwriter.
His name is Alex Turner and it turns out he has Capricorn Sun and Scorpio Moon, Mars and Pluto all in Scorpio also.
Interesting I allways thought the Arctic Monkeys had a great way of putting intense and complicated emotions into their music yet in the simplest ways. Now I understand why .

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posted July 31, 2015 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How funny, I was just talking about the Arctic Monkeys on this thread.

I have the same birthday as Alex Turner and relate to him and his music pretty strongly.

Never heard Do I Wanna Know...so I'm listening as I type this.
http://www.metrolyrics.com/do-i-wanna-know-lyrics-arctic-monkeys.html

Have you no idea that you're in deep
I dreamt about you nearly every night this week
How many secrets can you keep

^^ Sounds Scorpio.

Or Capricorn.

They overlap, with the obsession bit.

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posted July 31, 2015 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Maybe it's just about truth.

Scorpio is motivated to uncover the truth of any situation...and the truth hurts...but grappling with the truth can be a turning point, and transformative, and can ignite a rebirth.

So it's not really happy or sad -- more like a process that can generate a full range of emotions.

?


Grappling with the truth can suck - there are times when I would have been better off emotionally, having no idea what was really going on, instead of finding out what was said behind my back, or that someone was making big plans behind my back, that I wasn't included in. (Mum and Dad, for my sister, for example.)

I don't enjoy that full range of emotions. There are times when I feel that tears - just sinking into them - was the right thing to do, and it has helped, when they pass, and you do actually feel better. But those are rare. I'm an Aries, Gemini and Pisces personal planets, so maybe my placements and ascendant don't have me relating enough to something. It doesn't energize me - I don't like the adrenaline that comes from stress. I don't like wondering why hardly anyone supports me, considering they're supposed to love me, when I was just holding on to boundaries, and someone else was causing trouble (but I was blamed for it, for not going along with what would suck my boundaries away, all to make her happy - I still wouldn't have been).

banshee - There is no way that an Aries would be a vampire - at least not intentionally. I don't know how many people of any sign, would intentionally be one. I'm not interested in sucking the life out of you, I'm more interested in people letting me be. (Not talking about anyone here in this thread - just my life, as it has been.) And not sucking the life out of ME. Although a lot of it is gone. My mind works in an effort to bypass it, and my own emotions. This is where an air moon would come in handy, but mine is squared my Pisces.

I might edit this later.

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posted July 31, 2015 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
How funny, I was just talking about the Arctic Monkeys on this thread.

I have the same birthday as Alex Turner and relate to him and his music pretty strongly.

Never heard Do I Wanna Know...so I'm listening as I type this.
http://www.metrolyrics.com/do-i-wanna-know-lyrics-arctic-monkeys.html

Have you no idea that you're in deep
I dreamt about you nearly every night this week
How many secrets can you keep

^^ Sounds Scorpio.

Or Capricorn.

They overlap, with the obsession bit.


That is pretty cool!
I wasn't sure if I should of commented lol but it was supposed to happen. Lol.
Another good one (although there are many) by the Arctic Monkeys is R U Mine.

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posted July 31, 2015 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lack of action can depress me. Useful action. If I want to have fun, I will feel frustrated if I can't. If I'm learning about something, at some point, you need to move to hands-on experience.

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posted July 31, 2015 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:

You'd find me boring, though.

But yeah, I do like many, many things about you, and if we were single and carefree and gay, what would there be to stop us??

Hmm, I guess my college boyfriend also had Juno in Pisces which may explain how we lasted so long.

*checking*

Yes, he's got Juno-Jupiter at 15 Pisces. But the orbs aren't tight enough, my moon's at 18 Pisces, Juno 19 Virgo.

Hence the breakup.


awwww thank you, Faith. I like you too!

I think it's the one who had many of my placements, right? Sun in Virgo and the similar Libra stellium?

Hmm I think Scorpios like nerves of steel though. There is a funny thing about them, I noticed (closest examples: my sister is a Scorpio sun, my little sister a Scorpio Moon, my father was a Scorpio Moon, my mother is a Moon conj Pluto in Leo): at the beginning, they don't like you to display how much you like them, they are attracted by what they perceive as intense- acting cool- guarded types. For my sister, the Scorpio Sun, it has been quite the problem: guys showing how much they like her have been a turn off for her, and the danger for going after unavailable types, so common for Plutonians, happened in her case. Luckily for me, I don't have this problem, it must be my Leo/Virgo/Libra. At the beginning, what they like is a life or death, seduction game. And acting cool can be part of it. In the relationship however, they like passion, intensity, involvement, commitment. They don't fit with genuinely cool (detached, airy) types.

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posted July 31, 2015 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
A lack of action can depress me. Useful action. If I want to have fun, I will feel frustrated if I can't. If I'm learning about something, at some point, you need to move to hands-on experience.

SAME! Maybe that's Chiron in Aries...or my 9H Aries Jupiter.

I won't quote all that you said above since you might like to edit, I just feel bad reading about your situation (ETA: There have been times when I've dealt with the same thing. Actually a few years ago my sister lied to our whole family about something major, and I said she was lying, and *I* got blamed for being a mean person who doesn't want my sister to be happy. Only one person apologized to me when they all realized I was right. Not that it matters but it certainly did hurt.)

Oh and this: " It doesn't energize me - I don't like the adrenaline that comes from stress."

Reminds me of something I once read about Rabbits (us): "They prefer a flat EKG existence."

ROTFL...

K, it's a little bit true for me.

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posted July 31, 2015 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
A lack of action can depress me. Useful action. If I want to have fun, I will feel frustrated if I can't. If I'm learning about something, at some point, you need to move to hands-on experience.

same here

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posted July 31, 2015 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by infinite.nebula:
That is pretty cool!
I wasn't sure if I should of commented lol but it was supposed to happen. Lol.
Another good one (although there are many) by the Arctic Monkeys is R U Mine.

Thanks for feeding me music!

R U Mine?

I like it.

Btw, I really like The Last Shadow Puppets, love their cover of S.O.S.

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posted July 31, 2015 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
awwww thank you, Faith. I like you too!

Thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think it's the one who had many of my placements, right? Sun in Virgo and the similar Libra stellium?

No...I call that one my ex-soulmate.

My college boyfriend was a Leo with a Virgo moon and Mars....neither of which aspect my moon or Juno. His Mars square my Mars...*shudder*

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
At the beginning, what they like is a life or death, seduction game. And acting cool can be part of it. In the relationship however, they like passion, intensity, involvement, commitment. They don't fit with genuinely cool (detached, airy) types.

That was my experience! It's like I was getting cues to hold off, hold off, stay calm...then they turned the heat up a notch and I was still calm...then more, and moorrrrreeeeeee

Suddenly my calm seemed to p*ss them off.

Edit: I hope in the future I do get to date a Scorpio, even if only as an old lady Because I really want to understand this sign and feel like I won't, until I date one.

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posted July 31, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks for feeding me music!

R U Mine?

I like it.

Btw, I really like The Last Shadow Puppets, love their cover of S.O.S.


Haha thats awesome!

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posted July 31, 2015 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I have a story coming from my Moon/Pluto Scorpio in the 8th. Not mentioning Pluto also trines my Venus and sextiles my Sat/Nep conjunction oops.

I don't ever like never show signs of attraction. I mean...first relationship I had, I knew my ex was attracted and we were on several dates etc etc. Look, 1st kiss I just said: "Would you mind coming here for a second?". And then BAM like biggest kiss ever...haha. You should have seen how his eyes opened LOL. Then he was like: "I tought you were about to tell me you didn't want to see me anymore"

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posted July 31, 2015 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ That's great! 'Would make a nice movie scene.

I love surprises like that, too.

I have an 8H moon on the solstice point of 3H Pluto and I've been told my communication skills basically suck, that I don't express my feelings well enough and all that.

Oh well. Therapy, one of these years...

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quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks for chiming in, bansheequeen.

I'm always dumbfounded, reading about Aries moons. Surely they can't be this bad....?
I don't know any in real life, not that I know of.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bansheequeen:
[b]Maybe unevolved scorp but from what Ive seen, the type of plutonic people that act this way, draining others energy to make themselves feel better without really caring for the other person or wanting anything more than the excitement of the drama... they are doing it to try to numb themselves of a previous hurt.



Good observation...this might apply in the instances I was thinking of when I started the thread.

Well I thought, perhaps their loved ones harmed them as they were growing up, creating a belief like, "You always hurt the ones you love" and an impulse to bond over pain.

I'm not really thinking of Scorpio suns, by the way. More like Scorpio Venus, Venus-Pluto, etc.

I think it might be a Venus thing.[/B][/QUOTE]

Weellllll I'm dating an aries moon and he drains me simply because he cant see the sacrifices other people make to meet his demands.. and he has a lot of them. If his emotional needs at the moment arent met he will throw a tantrum until he is soothed pretty much. So more sensitive people like me (cancer moon) kind of end up doing what he wants to avoid all that.

Yeah I'm thinking of scorpio moons myself. But come to think of it a lot of the ones I'm thinking of also have scorpio venus!

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posted August 01, 2015 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your boyfriend sounds high maintenance.

Ummmm...not sure what to say except I think you are super sweet and deserve a good guy, so hopefully this is just a transit he's going through.

*crossing fingers*

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quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Your boyfriend sounds high maintenance.

Ummmm...not sure what to say except I think you are super sweet and deserve a good guy, so hopefully this is just a transit he's going through.

*crossing fingers*


He is lol but I am too when it comes to emotions sooooo yeah haha

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posted August 03, 2015 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus told me about this thread since I'm heavily Plutonic. I figure I'll throw in my perspective.

Here are my Pluto/Scorpio/8th House position.

Scorpio Pluto conjunct Scorpio Sun and Mercury

Capricorn Moon in the 8H (Conjunct Saturn and Uranus in the 8th, Neptune in the 9th)

Pluto opposite my Taurus Ascendant

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I'm not very emotionally draining. My 8th house Moon is very "frozen" because of Capricorn, and an exact Saturn conjunction.

My Venus is in Libra with no aspects. Very airy Venus.

My Scorpio Sun is in the 7th House, with Pluto and Mercury conjuncting it from the 6th. My Sun has no negative aspects so my core Scorpio personality has no negative manifestations.

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The emotional core personality trait of my Scorpio Sun is well balanced out by a controlled Moon and an air Venus.

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posted August 03, 2015 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah you're talking about v2T!

Hiiiiiiii if you're lurking out there!!

And thanks, Koho.

So you don't do twisted pain games...check. I am narrowing my focus to Venus-Pluto and afflictions then.

@bansheequeen

I guess it's a case of "who started it though???"

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