posted August 23, 2015 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

Oh but there is a quote I heard before, "One word of truth shall outweigh the whole world." - Solzhenitsyn

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Goodness I love that quote. In Arabic there is a word, haqq, which means truth, but the translation also gives haqq a sense of life, flow, and flexibility, which I'm sure is alarming to some people, but we're not talking about facts, filed away by the mind- which have less to do with truth and more to do with current manifestations and agreed upon perceptions. We're talking about the understanding that enters a soft and open heart … anyway. I love that quote.

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What is the affliction (I ask, knowing full well you don't want to come back to answer, but stooping to semi-manipulative tactics, for the Common Good of all who really want to know your mind, and for the greedy good of myself, who wants to keep you around much longer for myriad reasons) ?

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Actually I don't mind. It's Virgo season now and I can feel it. I commented late last night not even realizing we are now in Virgo, but I must have been feeling the release of pressure my transits promised.

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Is the affliction the juxtaposition of the cultural mind in a natural world?

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I like this. This is your Libra Pluto talking, I think. This might be one of the themes all of society faced during Pluto’s transit through Libra. I think that during the years Pluto was in Libra society (American, at least) was asked to find the balance between what is natural or what comes naturally and the cultural norms that seem to support the good of society.

The affliction I am talking about is specific to the individual chart. I’m just a beginner at understanding my chart, but a brief example:

I have Saturn in my 2nd house, a Virgo Saturn… Rahu conjunct that Saturn (I say Rahu instead of NN because I relate to the obsessive tendencies of this placement) and did I mention in the 2nd house?… There’s my Moon conjunct Chiron… My Pisces Eros conjunct SN… Even my Leo Asc , Jupiter conjunct -all are incredible blessings, but all point to issues of insecurity, issues with self-worth and self-love, seeking validation through relationships, OVERcompensation, and self-sacrificing tendencies (Pisces Eros/SN) which may have served me in a “past-life”, but which I have to let go of this time around.

And in case I had any doubts there’s Pluto square my 12th house Sun and 11th house Venus. And it’s Venus retrograde that is making me realize what a blessing that Pluto-Venus square is. It’s the easiest most direct way for the universe to talk to me about my eternal blessings and temporary curses, because so much of my (our) worldly preoccupation is Venusian (Love & Money). Venus retro is just...obvious.

And because of my Pluto-Venus square, when Venus goes retro (especially in my Leo 1st house), it’s as if Venus is looking directly at me. She comes every (what is it?) 7 or 8 years to tell me about the unhealthy expression of my Venus, which is also a message, loud and clear, to my placements in Taurus and my 2nd house.

I feel like I might have gone off track, and here I go further.

Can I share with you how amazing Venus retro in Leo is for me? The last time Venus went retro was in the summer of 2007. In the summer of 2007 I had my first and last fight with my then husband (can’t stand the term ex). There was nothing wrong with that relationship, except that neither he nor I could understand that the function of that relationship worked against our evolution. Venus retro snapped us in two.

The last time Venus went retro in Leo she was about tearing down what I thought were very solid foundations. She burned down my house (metaphor) and left me in the ashes- left me to Saturn (my Saturn return). This year it’s been less dramatic and traumatic for me and those around me. Venus knows I’m ready to rebuild, but she is asking me to look at what I am trying to build.

Interestingly, on or around June 22nd Venus entered her shadow at 14 or 15 Leo on my Asc.. I was completely unaware of everything I have just written in this post in June, but on the 20th I ended a long term, committed, and contracted relationship I’d entered into due to my previously mentioned afflictions (insecurities and problems). On July 22nd I started work in a career path I had abandoned in the fall of 2007 after Venus retro, and now I know more than ever that this is the direction I need to go in. I have plenty of other projects and ambitions, but this is the way I need to make my money.

When Venus stopped going direct on July 25th at 0 Virgo, she was conjunct my Virgo Lilith (exact) and opposite my Pisces Eros. There were several things she was telling me here, but what I’ll share is this. I have an 8th house Pisces SN/2nd house Virgo NN. I don’t believe I am supposed to leave my SN behind, but use that knowledge and experience to help me build my NN success. I didn’t understand this during the 2007 retrograde, but my instincts did guide me from my Piscean expression to a Virgo expression. Lol. It’s just that it was from Eros to Lilith, still imbalanced, still living in extremes. And it's like that's what she was saying to me as she sat there at 0 Virgo Still imbalanced. Still living in extremes. But I'm about to show you the light. I think I might be able to bring this back home to Pluto…When I was a kid I had a tutor who used to stand on chairs and tables and yell, “It’s all connected”

It is the square from Pluto to Venus that causes Venus’ continuous unhealthy expression. It’s a painful placement to have, but without something so in your face, so easy for the universe, through transits and synastry, to speak to, my life could be much more painful. Like I said, for me it is the fever I can see that tells me there is something more under the surface. Pluto means well. He’s working with all of the other planets to give us our lessons. I guess he usually gets to play bad cop.

posted August 24, 2015 02:22 PM            

Thank you for your reply! I'm not ignoring you I'm just hoping to get into a more intellectual, less emotional frame of mind before replying. My life is a bit haywire at the moment.

posted August 25, 2015 01:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
You sound like a happy family I love that your mom is your best friend. Is your dad's sun conjunct your mom's moon?

It's good to know an Aries moon and Pisces moon can last. I like Aries moons. So refreshingly obvious and direct. Even if they make me want to hide under my bed under a pile of blankets.

No I'm kidding.

Well I want people to believe I'm kidding. It's similar.

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Whoops! Did I say Pisces? I meant Taurus Moon. He does have planets in Pisces though (Mars, Chiron & Jupiter). I'm pretty sure her Moon is conjunct his Sun - it's definitely conjunct his Mercury (also in Aries). His Venus is in Taurus, her ASC is in Cancer.

Aries Moons are the best. I find that when it's paired with some earth and water, there's a dry sense of humor that is so honest and painfully funny that makes even the most stone-cold serious person fall out of their chair laughing.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Hmm, how do you feel about your Mercury Rx in Virgo? Does it make you introspective?

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I am introspective. I also communicate much better in writing than I do through talking. I also double-check everything, no matter how big or small the task is. I think this probably explains why Mercury Rx people communicate better in writing - we can double-check what we've written and edit it as needed, where as you just can't do that with speech. When it's out there, it's out there, whether or not it's what you meant to say.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thank you. Yes, all of that is what I would expect. Honestly I don't know how people miss the emotional aspect of Virgo OR Capricorn. But I know they do. I watch it happening before my very eyes. So weird, it's like we are on a wavelength others aren't picking up on. (?) And I wonder if it's like that for other elements, too.

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It really is like we're on a different wavelength from everyone else. I wish I could say I connected as well with Taurus as I do with Capricorn but that's just not true. I have friends that are Sun Aries, Gemini, Cancer, and Scorpio and the connection is good but not as great as it is with Capricorn.

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Originally posted by Faith:
TWO Geminis are always more suitable than one. Both in natal and synastry

Oops and I forgot to say "Hi!" back. *waves*

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I hate to say it, but whenever I see a Gemini placement I do a silent fist pump lol. Even if I don't understand my Gemini placements entirely, I always connect with those who have them.

posted August 28, 2015 12:45 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
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Aw, did you know I love to make a fuss over that, and you did it to humor me, or are we just similar?

Serious question...cuz Mars conjunct Mars acts in unison sometimes!

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
In Arabic there is a word, haqq, which means truth, but the translation also gives haqq a sense of life, flow, and flexibility, which I'm sure is alarming to some people, but we're not talking about facts, filed away by the mind- which have less to do with truth and more to do with current manifestations and agreed upon perceptions. We're talking about the understanding that enters a soft and open heart

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I got all this. Thank you.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
...all point to issues of insecurity, issues with self-worth and self-love, seeking validation through relationships, OVERcompensation, and self-sacrificing tendencies (Pisces Eros/SN) which may have served me in a “past-life”, but which I have to let go of this time around.

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I've never gotten a low self-worth vibe from you...it's hard to see...maybe because it's rooted in Pisces. (?)

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
There was nothing wrong with that relationship, except that neither he nor I could understand that the function of that relationship worked against our evolution. Venus retro snapped us in two.

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Aww...bittersweet.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
It is the square from Pluto to Venus that causes Venus’ continuous unhealthy expression. It’s a painful placement to have, but without something so in your face, so easy for the universe, through transits and synastry, to speak to, my life could be much more painful.

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Interesting way of looking at it...well, then, I'm happy for you that it's less painful than it might have been...I always prefer chronic pain to acute, myself.

Hmm, it's really interesting how you brought all that together. I suppose I haven't been too self-interested these days, tr Neptune square my Neptune is blitzing me out, and it's hilarious because literally so much of my life is about boats nowadays. I spent the summer in suspended animation waiting for our boat to sell.

Anyway, I do hope this Venus Rx transit works out great for you, I guess tr Venus and Mars are near your ASC now, so it's only proper that I write you a good old fashioned love letter.

One last thing, it's odd how your Venus-Pluto ties in with your nodes...NN in the house of Venus...while my SN is in the sign of Venus. You have Pluto square Venus, I have Scorpio NN.

So it's like we are going in opposite directions...you fly from stark dreaminess and mysticism to material solidity, with Pluto watching over the process...I think I've gotta fly the other way, to my Scorpio NN, to starkness. I always feel like I want to break everything down to the barest essentials. Tr Pluto on my sun, square my Pluto, is also killing me softly that way...everything is "let go, let go some more."

But I might be babbling...it's late...I'll let go of this and you for now...but please come around again, when you like!

posted August 28, 2015 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Aries Moons are the best. I find that when it's paired with some earth and water, there's a dry sense of humor that is so honest and painfully funny that makes even the most stone-cold serious person fall out of their chair laughing.

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Reading some of the stuff that the Aries moons say on here does make me hyperventilate laughing...so weird how I don't know ANY Aries moons in real life, except my first boyfriend. He wasn't a typical Aries moon, he never got angry.

But he did join the Marines as soon as he could, got military tattoos.

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I am introspective. I also communicate much better in writing than I do through talking. I also double-check everything, no matter how big or small the task is.

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Thanks for explaining. I love perfectionists. <3

My 6H Mercury opposing Saturn sounds a bit like your Virgo Mercury Rx. I also like writing better than talking, because if my Gemini Mars wants to overtalk something, and it's in writing, people can skim over it, no big deal.

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
When it's out there, it's out there, whether or not it's what you meant to say.

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Right!

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
It really is like we're on a different wavelength from everyone else.

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That's how I've always felt and it's the biggest relief to have it confirmed by someone else! I mean even if no other Virgo knows what I mean...if *you* know what I mean...okay, I'm not crazy. Thank you!!

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I hate to say it, but whenever I see a Gemini placement I do a silent fist pump lol.

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I think it was invented by two Gemini Mars people. We rule the hands, this all comes naturally. =)

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Even if I don't understand my Gemini placements entirely, I always connect with those who have them.

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Me, too...I usually get along with other Gemini-influenced people, though I think Mars conjunct moon is tricky in synastry...Mars can be too pushy for the moon. And oh god I hate feeling like someone else is thinking, "See that pushy girl over there?" But my Mars is square my moon...I get on my own nerves.

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
How does your Mars in Gemini affect you? I am always having accidents involving my arms. Sprained wrists, broken arms...but at the same time, activities involving my hands such as writing, typing, knitting, working on a project seem to help release a lot of nervous tension.

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Oh wow, really? I'm sorry you hurt your arms so much! When I was younger, I did a lot of drawing...and I still doodle. Lately I'm typing a lot. I do really like moving my hands...I've done quilting and embroidery...and baking is fun, especially the stirring. I didn't realize that until my kids wanted to try, and I had this selfish reaction of "Nooooo I get to stir it!!!" It really surprised me to realize what was going on instinctively. Because I never had the thought of "stirring is fun," I just got really greedy when my someone tried to take the spoon.

LOL...that fits Gemini Mars I guess.

posted August 28, 2015 10:26 PM            

When you replied last night the moon on my DC was opposite rVenus on my Asc (can I type it like that?- rVenus?). As you know my own Venus is in Cancer. I was really feeling it in my bones. I couldn't sleep and tried to reply, but I couldn't make myself stop dancing long enough to get my thoughts out. It was a really odd burst of energy. I enjoyed it. Last night the children's father and I compared notes from the last 8 years. He's riding out the hurricane on his remote little island. It was a great conversation and we agreed to talk and work toward mutual healing. I'm ready for him to emerge from the shadows and retake his position in my life as a significant intimate. I say it like that because I don't want him as my husband, and he's always been much more than a friend- something like a soul companion. Maybe we got through the sex and the passionate love and hate making, we're over the traditional family thing, and can be real partners raising the children (that was never really an issue anyway). We had quite a few laughs about so many things, like his approach toward relationships, and some of the wild things I've managed to do in the last 8 years (like be a bigamist). He still sees me as his wife, but he was always a wanderer. He naturally gives the freedom he needs, so it just feels like someone wonderful loves me, nothing more. When I told him of some of my adventures (dancing was the only one he knew of) he said well you've just been having the time of your life. I expected nothing less. What's next. To express myself and have it understood that my somewhat odd behavior in this reality is directly connected to my very active spirit. I can exhale. This rVenus did not bring me an ex lover. It brought evolution, healing, and promise.

The Pisces full moon/Neptune conjunction will be conjunct my SN. Where's your Moon, Sweetie?

Like you said, our nodes seem to share a Pluto-Venus, Scorpio-Taurus, 8th house-2nd house theme which I connect to Venus going retro through our 1st houses. The Moon will be lighting up the house and sign of your moon, my nodes...and my moon's in Taurus...i can't say exactly what it all means but I find it simply amazing- not just to see on a chart, but to experience! I'll be studying this transit for years. For now I'm just trying to stay somewhat aware, and allow it all to run through me.

How are you?