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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2015 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi YG!

Missed you

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posted November 06, 2015 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YG
I don't think you can take a career change from that info. You seem as if you found your true passion with career!

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posted November 09, 2015 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YG
I don't think you can take a career change from that info. You seem as if you found your true passion with career!


Ami Anne!!! I missed you too!!! Been too busy with life... Sigh.. Hope you've been well

I will take your advice Ami Anne You have read my chart for me so I believe your words! Thank you!

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posted November 09, 2015 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES, you seem to have found your true passion, YG. You are very blessed!

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posted November 09, 2015 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I'm probably speaking more from personal experience for that part...but Ami would be a good person to ask about that.

I worked in the medical field for a little while before my health finally went kaput. I miss it quite a bit, but my health always pays dearly for it.

I've instead turned my attention to other things that I can do well and profit from (writing mostly, but also graphic design and handcrafting items to sell). Also, when Saturn crossed over my MC around the same time, I decided I would go to graduate school, but in a completely different area. I'm transitioning out of the medical field, basically.

It might be that I have the opposition, or that Saturn was harassing my MC at the time that all of this happened.


@StubbornVirgo
Oh wow. So I guess Saturn crossing over MC really helped you move on and start a new direction in terms of what you want to do for your career.

If you health was really affected, I'm glad you made that choice because well we can't work if we are sick all the time!

I also decided to start graduate school under Saturn influence too - it was when I got my Saturn return.

@Ami Anne
Awwww thank you thank you! Sending many loves to your way!

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posted November 09, 2015 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right back at ya, YG

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posted November 09, 2015 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sun square pluto and certainly feel the constant battle against the dark manifestation. I am naturally a very spiritual person constantly striving for self improvement however I feel this aspect is always trying to undermine my progress and take me to a dark place, I'm always fighting it. My fear is I will never being able to conquer it.

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posted November 09, 2015 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cultstatus:
I have sun square pluto and certainly feel the constant battle against the dark manifestation. I am naturally a very spiritual person constantly striving for self improvement however I feel this aspect is always trying to undermine my progress and take me to a dark place, I'm always fighting it. My fear is I will never being able to conquer it.

I think squares stay 'as is". I only have generational squares and no oppositions with planets.

However, with asteroids, I have one that really hurts and never really gets better.

It is the Child asteroid oppose Nessus in the 8th House.

This is a sexual abuse aspect imo and I had this.

I do think that a true relationship with God can overcome charts.

The chart is material and God is spiritual.

The spiritual trumps the material.

However, short of that, I think we are stuck with aspects, such as you mentioned, C

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posted November 09, 2015 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaulMcFly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cultstatus:
I have sun square pluto and certainly feel the constant battle against the dark manifestation. I am naturally a very spiritual person constantly striving for self improvement however I feel this aspect is always trying to undermine my progress and take me to a dark place, I'm always fighting it. My fear is I will never being able to conquer it.

I have this same freaking aspect. Yes, Sun (Your Vitality and Natural Motivation) is BATTLING your Pluto (Power and Transforming Nature).

My Pluto in in 1H with Sun in 4th. People can see my demons I'm sure of it. Especially now that it's progressing on ASC.

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posted November 09, 2015 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing worse than someone seeing your demons

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posted November 09, 2015 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NEPTUNE IN 8TH HOUSE.

DEFINETELY NOT AN EASY POSITION.

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[B] You may suffer emotionally because of your interests and imagination. You may feel that no one understands you and this may lead you to withdrawal from others and remain secretive. There is a chance that you will have powerful dreams and it is important for you to write your dreams down and use them as a guide in your waking life.
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posted November 09, 2015 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
NEPTUNE IN 8TH HOUSE.

DEFINETELY NOT AN EASY POSITION.

[QUOTE][B] You may suffer emotionally because of your interests and imagination. You may feel that no one understands you and this may lead you to withdrawal from others and remain secretive. There is a chance that you will have powerful dreams and it is important for you to write your dreams down and use them as a guide in your waking life.
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I don't know much about this placement. Can you tell me your personal experiences with it, if you care to.

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posted November 09, 2015 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I don't know much about this placement. Can you tell me your personal experiences with it, if you care to.



Sure Amy!
This placement gaves me the craziest dreams ever.They are full of action and most of time are scary.Plus i see people i never saw in real life and i see their faces clearly.

As that quote described im a very secretive person.I dont talk about my feelings,like ever.I barely understand myself to be honest,so i dont expect other people to do it.

I just feel like i dont belong anywhere..and im always searching for something that i have no idea what is.

Aw neptune in 8H conjuncts my sun in 7H (2) and opposite my mars in 2H (0) but i dont know what that means.

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posted November 10, 2015 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 10, 2015 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
I have this same freaking aspect. Yes, Sun (Your Vitality and Natural Motivation) is BATTLING your Pluto (Power and Transforming Nature).

My Pluto in in 1H with Sun in 4th. People can see my demons I'm sure of it. Especially now that it's progressing on ASC.


Oh wow, that's intense.

My pluto falls in my 9th house and sun is in the 11th. Any ideas how this might manifest?

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posted November 10, 2015 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can someone bump part one plzzzzz !!!

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posted November 10, 2015 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
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You know, if you have a question for me, you can phrase it in a respectful way.

You could say, "What does a Venus or Pluto trine do to a 5th house Chiron?"

I would be happy to answer any RESPECTFUL question.


Any harassment, disrespect or anything of this nature will be ignored. Thank you.

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posted November 10, 2015 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by visions:
can someone bump part one plzzzzz !!!

I will put up Part one for you, V.

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posted November 10, 2015 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamawolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm finally working on #8 in my current relationship. It's really annoying and want to not feel this way but my dad really dug that into me growing up. His idea of love was being strict, working hard to provide, and always pointing out the negative. Sometimes I believe my partner will leave me for someone more outgoing and/or beautiful. I know I'm beautiful but it's hard to believe sometimes. Never felt like I could do anything right and the words "I love you" were rarely said so I'm still learning what that really means. Having chiron in my 2nd really messes with my self-esteem as well. I have faith though even if it takes ten more years or longer (hopefully not).

Oyyyyyy ye!

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Originally posted by cultstatus:
Oh wow, that's intense.

My pluto falls in my 9th house and sun is in the 11th. Any ideas how this might manifest?


Your Sun in 11th (house of Friends, humanitarian efforts, groups in Analogy with Aquarius) is in tension with your intense, primal, transforming nature (which is located in the Sag house of intellectual abilites, journies and expansion)

Either your Sun or Pluto could be blocking you off from gaining a "step" towards something bigger (but I think it's your sun)

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posted November 10, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(((Mamawolf))

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posted November 10, 2015 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the answer to the question that was asked last night.

If a person has Chiron in the 5th, but has trines to positive planets such as Venus and Jupiter, does it negate the meaning of Chiron in the 5th?

The answer is no. Chiron in the 5th retains it's meaning, but one has more EASE in it's use as a healer because Chiron can heal others, even though he can never fully heal.

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posted November 10, 2015 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will add this. I am an example of excellent trines to my 4th House Chiron. I have a Grand Trine of Venus, the ASC and Chiron, although technically this is not a Grand Trine, but functionally it is.

My 4th House Chiron still hurts. It was pain with my mother, but I am able to use that pain to help others.

My sharing of my Chiron pain seems to help many people.

I don't say that to brag, but to explain how Chiron works, ESPECIALLY in the trines( easy aspects)

With the squares, I think the free flowing usage of Chiron would be impeded.

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posted November 10, 2015 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HCtheQueenOfWands     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I think these are the hardest aspects to have:


-Sun square Saturn - Pain and insecurity - feeling less than

-Moon square Saturn - Emotional pain and insecurity leads to not knowing how to let your emotions flow and heart guide you

-Venus square Saturn - Trouble with opposite sex - feeling like nobody likes you - trouble with finances too

-Saturn in the 5th ( I agree) - Never feeling like anybody wants to hang out with you - romantic experiences are scarce

-Ceres square Saturn - Mothering qualities are restricted - not feeling loved - the feminine aspect of yourself severely wounded

-Sun square Pluto - Leads to intense nature that manifests darkness

-Moon square Pluto - Felt very wounded by the mother -leads to somewhat crazy emotional reactions

-Sun in the 12th - Didn't feel the father was there and leads to not being able to have a healthy ego

-Lucifer square Sun - This leads to being able to commit dark acts.

-Mars square Saturn - This can lead to sexual health issues.


I have Sun sq Pluto...

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posted November 10, 2015 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon 10h quindecile Chiron 5h. Leo to Pisces.
Or it was once.

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