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Topic: The Ten Hardest Aspects To Have in the Natal—–Part 2
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 02, 2015 09:26 AM
Yes SV!I am very much into direct honesty. People feel guilty if they are told they can "get over" everything. I don't think you can. I think helping others in the area of your own wound will help you to heal, but to expect full healing will set you up for depression, in my humble opinion. (And I am oh so humble ) ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 7545 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2015 02:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by StubbornVirgo: Chiron in the 6th house is a pretty painful position, especially when paired with a Saturn opposition in the 12th house.You want to help people (in any capacity really but I've seen this play out in healthcare professions mostly) and you're probably a fantastic provider, but... You're too busy dealing with you're own health issues. It's not in anyway you're fault, because you truly are sick. It's just the burden you're meant to deal with in this life. So even though you're a natural caregiver, at some point, there is a career change. I think, if there's other factors in the chart, there may be an opportunity to use those experiences for the better good (writing a book about chronic illness, for example). But there is a shift of some kind, simply because they cannot do the job that they did before. ----- I didn't really experience my Chiron in 6th fully until I had several hard-hitting transits at once, including a long-term Chiron and Neptune opposition to my Virgo stellium. Still, I didn't feel the effects of illness on my career until Saturn crossed over my MC.
I've been dealing with health issues, too - my whole life, but especially over the past several years, and not feeling fully capable of taking care of my pets. That's one reason I was so angry with those who were deliberately hurting me, and making everything worse. Chiron is conjunct my Sun in the 6th. I always thought I'd help animals, but now I'm scared at the thought of bringing another animal home, at some point. Even with fostering, where a rescue group would be responsible for vet and food costs.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 7545 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2015 02:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yes SV!I am very much into direct honesty. People feel guilty if they are told they can "get over" everything. I don't think you can. I think helping others in the area of your own wound will help you to heal, but to expect full healing will set you up for depression, in my humble opinion. (And I am oh so humble )
I read an article last week, about a test that was done with people who were told to focus on being happy for a few weeks. They ended up feeling more depressed. I loathe it when people think that I should just be over something. Or tell me who I am, and who or what I should be, or do. Try turning it around on them, and they don't like it so much, either.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 02, 2015 02:27 PM
I KNOW, teasel. I am speaking up about it because I have been there, too. Now, that I feel a little better, I can look back and see that I, absolutely, could not help my state of mind.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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neptunicity Knowflake Posts: 677 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 02, 2015 08:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yes, i could see psychic abilities coming from that cuz you are really close to your chi/body energy. Aura, there, would add to that.I have found that people with this placement feel an energy drain a lot. There energy seems to be too close to the surface and situations seem to drain them a lot. Do you have this?
Yes I do! I thought it was because of being a Pisces, I read that we get drained by our environment, but I feel quite drained when I am only angry in my head or by being in a room with loud shouting like a concert! It's like too much noise bothers me. Is Aura or Kaali responsible for that? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 02, 2015 08:45 PM
but I feel quite drained when I am only angry in my head or by being in a room with loud shouting like a concert! It's like too much noise bothers me. Is Aura or Kaali responsible for that?It is Kaali. I have an article on just this! ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 142 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 02, 2015 08:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: These are not in order. Since my last article on the same subject, I have learned more from doing more charts. Hence, I wanted to share my observations with you.1. Chiron in the 8th House This placement seems to stifle the basic instincts of the native. To put it simply, the person feels he has to be “better than” his animal nature. We, each, have an animal nature. Trying to repress it( the domain of the 8th House) makes for various and sundry physical, mental and emotional issues. 2. Chiron in the 5th House The 5th House is the House of creativity. Creativity will take one a long way, when one has experienced childhood traumas. It is a way to play. The 5th House is the House of play. With Chiron here, the person feels too inhibited to let loose and play. Pain is part of emotional freedom, to him 3. Saturn in the 5th House This placement is similar to the above. In this placement, the native has inhibition upon letting go, rather than deep pain. 4. Deprez(9795) conjunct a prominent, personal point in the chart. Deprez is depression. A prominent personal point would be the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and the angle( Ascendant, IC, MC and Descendant) 5. Sedna(90377) conjunct a prominent, personal point in the chart. Sedna is extreme betrayal by men, starting with the father. 6.Dejanira (157)conjunct the Moon. Dejanira is the victim asteroid. The Moon is one’s deepest heart.This is the SINGLE hardest aspect to have in the entire chart. I wrote about this in my other article. I include it because I think the person has little chance of emotional stability with this conjunction, if it is close. Of course, God can overcome any chart aspect. 7. Dejanira conjunct any prominent, personal point in the chart. Dejanira plays out differently, depending on which part of the chart it impacts. However, victimhood, through no fault of one’s own, is, always, a hard struggle. 8. Saturn conjunct, square or oppose Venus. This aspect seems to make for a person who feels she has to be perfect in order to be loved. 9. Uranus conjunct, square or oppose Mercury. This aspect can make for madness or brilliance, or both. 10. Kaali(4227) conjunct the ASC or MC. This aspect makes for a person who may be an emotional sponge. She absorbs unwanted energies from the outside and may find herself exhausted and overwhelmed in normal social activities.
5th House Saturn in Pisces. Uranus conjunct Mercury 4 degrees. What I'm concerned is Deprez is square my moon and mercury and my Sedna and Dejanera is in my 7th house. Eek IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 02, 2015 09:00 PM
How close is the deprex square? If it is more than a degree, I would not be very concerned.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 02, 2015 09:09 PM
Uranus conj mercury at 4 degrees is wide, so not that much of a difficult factor, but it would still be felt. These natives are brilliant, which is the good news. The super close conjunction is very hard for mental stability, but at 4 degrees, it would be something that should be OK imo------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 02, 2015 09:15 PM
MYou have to remember that asteroids need very close orbs. Some Astrologers will only accept exact orbs. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 142 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 02, 2015 10:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: How close is the deprex square? If it is more than a degree, I would not be very concerned.
They are both 1 degeee. And interesting part about Uranus, I am very intelligent, but I do also suffer from depression. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 02, 2015 10:31 PM
Yes! I think we need to face our struggles and know that it is not our fault. It is the nature of our charts. That is one way that I think Astrology can set people free. It is NOT your fault. This is something with which you came into life.My chart shows sexual abuse, which I had. It is not my fault, although we tend to blame ourselves for things. For you, I would find your gifts and feel really good about them because you have many of them, I am sure, one of which is Uranus brilliance I bet you have the asteroid Quoaar prominent. Check it out and see if I am right lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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HoodBlaze Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 02, 2015 11:31 PM
Hey what would the opposition mean for Mercury Uranus? I also have Mercury opposite Neptune, Mercury frien Pluto, and Mercury sextiles Venus. Mercury in eighth and Uranus Neptune in second house. Any tips to get over some problems, and good academic areas that those aspects are drawn towards? Thanks! I always felt odd about both those opposites. Even though I feel really smart, I tend to do bad on school sometimes, and people can't vibe with my logic a lot of the time. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 02, 2015 11:45 PM
How close are these aspects? List them, if you want.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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HoodBlaze Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 02, 2015 11:56 PM
First off let me thank you. I am a newbie to astrology and I've gone through your whole site and it was great! Can't wait to get the basics down more and get into your asteroid stuff. Then when I have money one day get a reading! Moon Sextile Mercury 4 Mercury Sextile Venus 7 Mercury Opposition Uranus 6 Mercury Opposition Neptune 6 Mercury Trine Pluto 3 Mercury Sextile Midheaven 4 IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 03, 2015 12:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by HoodBlaze: First off let me thank you. I am a newbie to astrology and I've gone through your whole site and it was great! Can't wait to get the basics down more and get into your asteroid stuff. Then when I have money one day get a reading! Moon Sextile Mercury 4 Mercury Sextile Venus 7 Mercury Opposition Uranus 6 Mercury Opposition Neptune 6 Mercury Trine Pluto 3 Mercury Sextile Midheaven 4
Aww, you are so sweet, H. You made my day. Well, the aspects more than 5 degrees are more ambient, so they would be felt as a fire from which one sits farther away. Moon sextile Mercury is a lovely ability to express your emotions. Mercury trine Pluto is powerful gut feelings. TRUST them. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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neptunicity Knowflake Posts: 677 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 03, 2015 06:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [b]but I feel quite drained when I am only angry in my head or by being in a room with loud shouting like a concert! It's like too much noise bothers me. Is Aura or Kaali responsible for that?It is Kaali. I have an article on just this! [/B]
I just read it. I guess it amplifies what it touches? I have it also on my ascendant, but only a sextile. It does make a sextile to Lucifer, I think it makes me more open to spells and occult practices, based from the info on Lucifer. Hehe. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 03, 2015 09:17 AM
No, Lucifer is not what people think. His Theme is spiritual pride, not spells or evil, per se.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 142 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 03, 2015 02:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yes! I think we need to face our struggles and know that it is not our fault. It is the nature of our charts. That is one way that I think Astrology can set people free. It is NOT your fault. This is something with which you came into life.My chart shows sexual abuse, which I had. It is not my fault, although we tend to blame ourselves for things. For you, I would find your gifts and feel really good about them because you have many of them, I am sure, one of which is Uranus brilliance I bet you have the asteroid Quoaar prominent. Check it out and see if I am right lol
I 100% agree with you! My chart also shows my abuse, but I really love astrology because it shows not only strengths but also weaknesses. Both are important to create a wholesome and good person. As for Quaoar (50000) it is trine my midheaven and moon and sextile my mercury all 1 degree. However it's conjunct my Pluto. ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 142 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 03, 2015 02:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Aww, you are so sweet, H. You made my day.Well, the aspects more than 5 degrees are more ambient, so they would be felt as a fire from which one sits farther away. Moon sextile Mercury is a lovely ability to express your emotions. Mercury trine Pluto is powerful gut feelings. TRUST them.
I can confirm the powerful gut feelings. I have Mercury sextile Pluto 2 degrees and 9.9/10 times my gut is ALWAYS right. ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 03, 2015 03:08 PM
Wow about QuoarThat is out of the box brilliance. You are blessed with this.It will show in your career, as well. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 142 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 03, 2015 10:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Wow about QuoarThat is out of the box brilliance. You are blessed with this.It will show in your career, as well.
That makes me very happy! Thank you for your wonderful insight, I would like to consider myself fairly knowledgeable in astrology, but I want to learn so much more! Thank you for always sharing your knowledgy IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 03, 2015 11:11 PM
Thank you, Mergoat!People like you make all that I do worthwhile! ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Sittin' on Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 04, 2015 03:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yes SV!I am very much into direct honesty. People feel guilty if they are told they can "get over" everything. I don't think you can. I think helping others in the area of your own wound will help you to heal, but to expect full healing will set you up for depression, in my humble opinion. (And I am oh so humble )
I completely agree. Your philosophy is a healthy one. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Sittin' on Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 04, 2015 03:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I read an article last week, about a test that was done with people who were told to focus on being happy for a few weeks. They ended up feeling more depressed. I loathe it when people think that I should just be over something. Or tell me who I am, and who or what I should be, or do. Try turning it around on them, and they don't like it so much, either.
Yeah. People have the right to feel however they want, for however long they need or want to. People seem to forget that. IP: Logged | |