posted February 13, 2016 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I just think the poster has something against Taureans which is why they decided to start the thread just for drama. If you don't think Taurens are sexy then that is your opinion that does not mean that other people will agree with you.

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She doesn't have anything against Taurus people, she has said wonderful things about Taurus people. She is just not saying exactly what you want to hear it seems. You seem to want validation that you have sex appeal so I will say the following; If you have sex appeal you just know it and you wouldnt be looking for placements or aspects to confirm this, that is my opinion anyways.

posted February 14, 2016 12:04 AM            

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Originally posted by DeeMonroe:
smh, messed up getting my question answered lol.

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Wait noooo not at all. I am just having some really crazy technical problems with my computer freezing and then posting duplicate replies (hence the back to back removed posts)

posted February 14, 2016 12:07 AM            

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Originally posted by DeeMonroe:
smh, messed up getting my question answered lol.

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Wait noooo not at all. I am just having some really crazy technical problems with my computer freezing and then posting duplicate replies (hence the back to back removed posts)

posted February 14, 2016 12:21 AM            

I know certain placements gives a person sex appeal. I've read other topics where people have talked about it. I don't care about her opinion about Scorpios because I didn't ask that. I was asking about myself in particular. Hence the reason why someone said my Leo Rising would so I have my answer.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
She doesn't have anything against Taurus people, she has said wonderful things about Taurus people. She is just not saying exactly what you want to hear it seems. You seem to want validation that you have sex appeal so I will say the following; If you have sex appeal you just know it and you wouldnt be looking for placements or aspects to confirm this, that is my opinion anyways.

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posted February 14, 2016 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by incognito:
Not all scorpios are sexy. I just finished dating one. He wasn't that great. Did not anticipate what I needed at all.

5/10 Maybe because he was young? 23

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posted February 14, 2016 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Wait noooo not at all. I am just having some really crazy technical problems with my computer freezing and then posting duplicate replies (hence the back to back removed posts)

I would never ignore someone based on what other ppl did . Definitely still going to answer

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posted February 14, 2016 01:08 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
All she kept saying was how Scorpio is sexy etc. She didn't even answer my question at all. I asked if certain placements would give me sex appeal since I had been told by someone I had sex appeal. I wanted to know what aspects in my natal chart would make me have this. I even posted a few aspects that I have in my natal chart. None of them had anything to do with Scorpio. This is why I don't understand why Scorpio was even mentioned in the first place.

I know certain placements gives a person sex appeal. I've read other topics where people have talked about it. I don't care about her opinion about Scorpios because I didn't ask that. I was asking about myself in particular. Hence the reason why someone said my Leo Rising would so I have my answer.

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In your own thread which I participated on you said you had Sun opposite Pluto which can definitely give sex appeal. Leo rising squaring pluto can do that too or aspecting venus in the 8th for example.

You started a thread and asked about yourself and what placements can give sex appeal and listed your placements, she took the time to respond many times to you in that thread as well as many other people including myself. Now you are on this thread continuing your thread here even though many people already responded at length to your question at your thread.

She took such a long time writing up a very well thought out response for you that it came out so awesome that it deserved its own thread and a separate discussion that was not about you so she started a thread to avoid derailing yours.

At the end of the day what matters is that who you are with finds you sexy and thank god for synastry bc there will always be some people out there who find each and everyone of us sexy and that is what truly matters.

posted February 14, 2016 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I just think the poster has something against Taureans which is why they decided to start the thread just for drama. If you don't think Taurens are sexy then that is your opinion that does not mean that other people will agree with you.

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posted February 14, 2016 04:45 AM            

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Originally posted by DeeMonroe:
YES! So on point. I can VERY reserved as well(despite having a Leo Sun) and I do have a huge interest in spiritual forms of sexuality like taoism, tantra, transmuting sexual energy,etc...

As for my Chart rulers...

Pluto in Scorpio/1st House
- conjunct Asc wide(9 degrees)
- square MC(2 degrees)
- square Jupiter wide(8 degrees)

Mars in Virgo
- trine Saturn and Moon
- parallel Pluto(if you count declination)
- semisquare ASC

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Hey Dee, thanks for posting your planetary info and sorry about the delay. So looking at this I can definitely see a few puzzle pieces coming together. With Pluto in Scorpio in the 1st I would imagine that even if you don't realize it, ppl can sense an intensity in you...a depth. The thing is that it may not necessarily be very sexual, and there's a reason why. As a Scorpio type you are internally aware of your inherent higher connection to sexuality (even before you are fully aware of what exactly sex/sexuality is). However, with those hard aspects to Jupiter and your MidH you may struggle with the beliefs you develop regarding it and with what you feel is a good expression of it. It may conflict, change, and evolve quite often. With Pluto being in the 1st and in Scorpio, sexuality and your study of it's power is very close to your formation of self. When you think of yourself you feel your knowledge and spiritual understanding of this is a strong part of what defines you. Your Leo influences also make you proud and dignified. If the squares are causing a conflict that you have yet to master, you would rather keep it hidden (Scorpio) while you work on self-evolution (Pluto).

Now typically, even if this occurred, it still wouldn't stop the natural occurrence of obvious sex appeal. That is just something most Scorpio/Plutonian types will have even when reserved and shy with totally innocent non-sexual motives. However, this is where your handy Virgo Mars comes in. As luck would have it, your Pluto condition described above is not the only dictator in how your Ascendant energy operates. Your Virgo Mars (while not in total agreement with how your Scorpio Ascendant would like to express itself) provides a safe framework for your Pluto situation to improve in a healthy way. See your Mars may not be a perfect fit for how Scorpio Asc would like to express itself but it is in harmony with your inner feelings (what you are comfortable with) and the the restrictions or limits you adhere to. Moon and Saturn. So in essence your Virgo Mars gives a sort of conservatism to your sex-appeal that allows the depth of Pluto to show while making the sexuality more subtle. The reason Mars would affect sex-appeal while still allowing Pluto's other traits (such as depth, spiritual intensity, etc.) to show is b/c Mars also rules sex and so has a say in it's expression. So here your Virgo Mars is helping your first house with it's desire to be secretive via it's conservatism; protecting it while you work on the self-evolution in regard to sexuality (and how you want to express it) that I mentioned earlier.

In conclusion, the condition of your Ascendant rulers would make your sex-appeal go something like this. You may not radiate sex-appeal in the expected Plutonian sense, but you have an intense depth to you all the same that others definitely notice. When someone finally gets to know you and you let them into your world, they may go "I knew it! I'm not sure why but I could always tell you would know about tantra, transmuting sexual energy, etc. I could just feel it". They will basically say that despite you having a more reserved sex-appeal they could still feel an undercurrent of your hidden nature. Also, Virgo is known for their conservatism but Virgo is actually quite sexy, strong, and even rebellious. Princess Diana had Mars in Virgo and was considered to have tons of sex-appeal while maintaining class. She was also a rebel. Bebe Rexha is a Sun, Moon, and Mars in Virgo who is very sexy but also a rebel type. Virgo manages to be sexy without ever seeming like an easy ride to get on. So overtime, as you learn more about how to work with the squares and other conflicts, your sex-appeal will be more and more prominent. This is b/c once your first house Pluto in Scorp (and proud Leo energy) feels you've formed a spiritual painting of sexuality and it's power that accurately represents who you are (the self, first house), Scorpio/Pluto will no longer be overly secretive about it. It will be stronger in your aura and hard aspects (like your squares) might actually make your sex-appeal above average at times (even now, you may find that at times you will randomly seem very sexy to ppl).

posted February 14, 2016 05:16 AM            

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Originally posted by incognito:
Not all scorpios are sexy. I just finished dating one. He wasn't that great. Did not anticipate what I needed at all.

5/10 Maybe because he was young? 23

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Hey Incognito, this is something that quite a few others have noted. Here is a post I made that illustrates my analysis for why this occurs.

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[b]@DopGang: ...I also want to touch on the fact that you mentioned Sun signs specifically. In another original post to ChildOfVenus I explained that there was an order in which the signs would affect sex appeal, with Scorpio being #1 and Taurus coming in at second place (which is what spawned the whole Taurus vs Scorpio thing to begin with lol). I noted to her that this included any house, planet, or aspect that related to them and that it would be especially noticeable when affecting the Ascendant, Sun, or Mars (in that specific order).

When you mentioned not being drawn to most Scorpio sun ppl (and not being attracted to that one Taurus co-worker), the above came to mind. A person may have Scorpio or Taurus influence but they may not necessarily be archetypes of those signs at all (with other sign/planetary energies dominating the chart). Now a Scorpio sun with Pluto affecting their sun will be way more sexually magnetic than someone who is merely a Scorpio Sun and nothing more (no aspects, etc.). Just as a Taurus Asc may exhibit much stronger Taurus sensuality than a Taurus Sun. That's why I like to say "Scorpio types" or "Taurean individuals" opposed to just saying Scorpios or Taurus specifically. As a super Plutonian Virgo will fit the description of a Scorpio type person perfectly despite not being a Scorpio.

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So to help clarify what I mean when I talk about Scorpio or Taurus, I'm actually going to add a small note to my OP. When I speak of Scorpio I mean Scorpio/Plutonian types (which it not at all limited to Scorpio Sun). Same goes for Taurus. I have updated my OP with the following.

When I mention the effects of Taurus or Scorpio ppl in this thread, I am not merely referring to Sun sign Scorpio or Taurus individuals. It refers to any person who (based on an abundance of energy from those signs via aspects, houses, or planets relating to them) fits the archetype of those signs. Thus a Scorpio Sun who has no other Scorpio/Pluto energy/aspects in their chart would not fit the archetype of the Scorpio energy I describe as well as a Virgo Sun who is extremely Plutonian. So in this case you are not limited to thinking of a Scorpio Sun when I mention Scorpio's sex appeal within the thread, you can think of the Plutonic Virgo as well.

posted February 14, 2016 05:24 AM            

Now... I think that's just the archetypes. Lots of scorpio are incredibly awkward ... I think Mars/moon/Venus in Scorpio tend to give better sexual aura than the rising or sun, which are more what one identify with and not the receptive undercurrent energy.

In discussing Taurus-Scorpio, it's important to see that Taurus is in the first quadrant and Scorpio in the second. Scorpio is relational. Taurus is the self. Taureans often do best when they embody their self-values, their innate gifts, Scorpio however is the building up to a grand finale.

Take Scorpio artists: Katy perry, Beyoncé, lady gaga, weeknd, Bryan Adams...

Compare that to Adele, Sam Smith, Norah Jones, Christina Aguilera

Actually, just contemplate on the ultimate Lunar Taurean Meryl Streep.

posted February 14, 2016 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You seem to want validation that you have sex appeal so I will say the following; If you have sex appeal you just know it and you wouldnt be looking for placements or aspects to confirm this, that is my opinion anyways.

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This...this is important.

posted February 14, 2016 06:11 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Aries is Mars during the day
Scorpio is Mars at night "*cough*

Now... I think that's just the archetypes. Lots of scorpio are incredibly awkward ... I think Mars/moon/Venus in Scorpio tend to give better sexual aura than the rising or sun, which are more what one identify with and not the receptive undercurrent energy.

In discussing Taurus-Scorpio, it's important to see that Taurus is in the first quadrant and Scorpio in the second. Scorpio is relational. Taurus is the self. Taureans often do best when they embody their self-values, their innate gifts, Scorpio however is the building up to a grand finale.

Take Scorpio artists: Katy perry, Beyoncé, lady gaga, weeknd, Bryan Adams...

Compare that to Adele, Sam Smith, Norah Jones, Christina Aguilera

Actually, just contemplate on the ultimate Lunar Taurean Meryl Streep.

*from another Aries moon

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Well, the archetypes are what I'm discussing. Hence why I used Chris Brown to represent Taurus (Sun, Moon, Venus, and MidH in Taurus). I literally said that him being the archetype is why I used him. That way we could be sure the qualities I speak of are indeed coming from Taurean energy. I did the same with Scorpio using the Plutonic Gemini musician Prince.

Take this example. The archetypal Sagittarius loves travel and higher learning. It wouldn't make sense for me to say "well, I've met Sagittarian ppl that HATE traveling and don't care about religion or higher learning at all". Well, that's all well and fine, but that would no longer be from Sag energy. That specific Sagittarius would most likely have some other sign(s) dominating their energy (despite them being a Sag). So at that point it's not very relevant.

Also, most should know that energies/aspects affecting the Asc, Mars, or Sun will be more readily seen than in any other place. This is b/c your presence (the Asc.), your physical mode of operation (Mars), and your soul-energy/vibrance (Sun) is what ppl see first. My sister is a Scorpio Venus she always says that my Scorpio Asc shows way more Plutonian energy than her Venus does. My mother is a Scorpio moon, and while she is Plutonian, she feels my Asc makes mine more readily noticable. Another example. My sister is Aries rising and trust me she seems way more Aries than any Aries sun or moon I've ever met. So how can the Asc not be a key player in this? Now again, aspects and stuff must be taken into account. However, in general Asc, Sun, and Mars are the most visible when it comes to sign aura/energy.

P.S., I hope that you were listing artist that you feel have the energies of those signs, because if you were posting Sun signs you have majority of those wrong.

posted February 14, 2016 06:58 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
This all started because I asked what placements in MY natal chart would give me sex appeal. You can go back and read my question. I'm happy someone actually answered my question instead of bringing up something that's irrelevant. I have no idea how this became Taurus vs Scorpio to begin with.

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I wasn't going to speak to you again (because clearly that's futile), but for the sake of all the WTFs floating around in my head I had to say something lol!

posted February 14, 2016 10:41 AM            

The list of artists I gave are mostly the moon position. But if you go to Wikipedia list of people with highest number of Academy awards, it's mostly Taurus.

The point being Taurus is an artistic sign that succeed through their innate talents. Adele and Sam Smith are known for their voices and it so much sexual aura.

I'm not interested in discussing "depth" because it's a very subjective concept.

Now take Scorpio sun, moon-Pluto Leo DiCarprio. He's talented, yes but he definitely picks movies of roles that display some level of transformation/drama; Jodie Foster is the same.

Then you have Taureans like Jessica Alba or Megan Fox.... even Audrey Hepburn... These actors tend to not choose a role with emotional teansfotmation. If a Taurus does choose one, it's just a one of stone event to demonstrate breadth.

So I'm trying to illustrate that Scorpio sexiness is very aligned with Hades and mythology and I think they tend to be more reclusive and less apparent to the wider consciousness.

Lots of scorpions ars artists. when they make it big, they usually make it really big. You don't forget their names. You'll remember them for a long time. But there are fewer Scorpio artists who make it than Taurus.

Same for Aquarius, actually. Every profession you see an Aquarius who changed the game completely but they are not consistent.

posted February 14, 2016 11:16 AM            

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Dreaminess

That's crazy! Yet believable. One because some people are just crazy.
But then there is something about you, I admit. You do have some kind of quality about you.

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