posted February 14, 2016 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Actually you worded things fine my brain is just a tad foggy for some reason lol. Probably b/c I'm eating junk, being weirded out by GIFs, browsing for some panel curtains, and responding to ppl at the same time smh. I know it sounds horrible, that's b/c it is

It all makes sense now though oh and the use of the word older in reference to Virgo just meant more mature as in level-headed and serious, b/c when I feel my Gemini placements getting out of hand I can only thank my Virgo influence for keeping mercury energy in tact lol

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Nah, it doesn't sound so horrible, imo. I'm watching Spongebob while I'm typing this, and eating food that's nutritionally questionable.

posted February 14, 2016 09:59 PM            

I didn't mean to quote your response from before that was a mistake.

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Originally posted by Faith:
LOL

You perceive [b]this thread as entirely bashing Taureans. [/B]

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posted February 14, 2016 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Yes that's basically what it is you can't read between the lines?

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posted February 14, 2016 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by DeeMonroe:
WOW! Thank you LBC for this analysis. Pretty much connected all the dots. I'll be looking back at this from time to time. (:

I think you mentioned you had a Gemini Mars, how does that work for your Scorpio rising?

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You're welcome :HEART:

posted February 14, 2016 10:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
LOL

You perceive this thread as entirely bashing Taureans. [/B]

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Exactly smh

posted February 14, 2016 11:13 PM            

And honestly...we ALL have a 2nd house, we may even have Taurus placements, or love someone who does.

So it's not like The People versus Taurus.

We are all Taurus.*

posted February 14, 2016 11:22 PM            

I have so many fond memories of my Taurus energy revelling in pure contentment...especially with other Taurus people, who know the vibe.

A lot of it has to do with being out in nature.

posted February 15, 2016 12:44 AM            

I'm a scoprio ASC so it's no wonder

I do feel though that when someone is able to really "see" you (like peeps with strong scorpio) it validates your existence and the sexual pull intensifies. They become magnetic because, collectively, that's all anyone ever desires - to be seen, heard, etc. and when someone can do that to you, you can't help but be drawn in because you will want more of that. Especially if you never had that as a bub.

posted February 15, 2016 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Exactly smh

It's not even like I said Scorpio was light-years ahead of Taurus with sex appeal. I said I felt they were the top two. So close in fact that I had to make a thread analyzing the dynamics. In which case I felt Scorpio had some extra sex-appeal. If this was a comparison of who is more loving, charming, and gentle I would say Taurus over Scorpio (well...clearly not this particular Taurus who stalks this thread lol). But anyway, that wouldn't mean I'm now bashing Scorpio for saying the Taurus archetype wins in that department.

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Exactly, nobody here is bashing Taurus people. By the logic being used by her then saying that Taurus is more charming and warm than Scorpio would mean you are bashing Scorpio and the reality is you are not bashing either sign; you are simply pointing out were each shines more and each sign's strength.

You actually even mentioned that Taurus is more skilled at sex or pleasuring than Scorpio so does that mean you are bashing Scorpios then? No.

posted February 15, 2016 02:47 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:

Also issues relating to sex-appeal are not the only things that increase with hard aspects. Confrontation totally unrelated to sex-appeal also increases as well. I have Mars Opp Pluto and boy does it create conflict.

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I imagine specially in your case since mars and pluto are your chart rulers and they are opposing so it plays out in your relationships/interactions as oppositions often do with one person acting out mars and the other pluto or vice versa perhaps who acts out who varies too within a relationship/interaction. I think Pluto is probably in the driving seat until you start to loose your patience then mars takes over

So since you are usually pluto then you attract mars people reacting to your pluto.

My mom has mars and venus opposite pluto but she does not embrace her pluto side (her venus and mars do not conjunct and each oppose pluto by 7d), intensity scares her, she only watches PG movies and shows and finds pluto things morbid and based on a conversation I had with her once the intensity of sex scares her, she is even scared of roller coasters, everything is too much for her. She avoids her pluto side and latches on tightly to religion instead perhaps that is how she achieves transformation in her case via religion/spirituality (she has northnode in pisces and moon in Taurus). She is very driven and controlling.

I guess it has always puzzled me her extreme rejection towards pluto. It must be her upbringing she went to school with nuns. She wants to stay innocent forever perhaps and perceives that pluto would take that from her, part of her wants to preserve that innocence always and Pluto greatly threatens that in her mind.

She has definitely met a lot of resistance/opposition and indirect aggression in the workplace designed to halt her advancement career wise which broke my heart to see, she stuck around for years I guess bc of her fear of change and need for security and her faith. I suppose that is were her mars opposite pluto has manifested the most via power struggles and 'abuse' in the workplace. In her home town there were no issues in this regard, she was the director of her department and appreciated and treated fairly but here not so much so that tells me the 9th house is involved in this opposition. I highly suspect she has gemini rising.

She was a workaholic so that is how her pluto is also manifesting, obsession with work and religion/spirituality. I guess her being a cap sun that she expresses her pluto in a more cap style.

She irks me and always will but also fascinates me and have love for her. She is probably a big reason why I studied psychology. She didn't fully embrace her pluto which still manifested in other ways tbf so unavoidably a big part of her but in the ways she did not embrace pluto I did. I feel she grew up with the message that it was not ok to be sexy.

She seems more venusian physically, she I feel did not embrace her sexuality so her sex appeal just did not show for her but her venusian beauty did. She channeled her plutonic nature with work, studies and religion/spirituality.

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Do you feel that oppositions to pluto specially with women can lead to them repressing their sex appeal do to **** shaming and double standards in gender roles??

posted February 15, 2016 04:28 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Exactly, nobody here is bashing Taurus people. By the logic being used by her then saying that Taurus is more charming and warm than Scorpio would mean you are bashing Scorpio and the reality is you are not bashing either sign; you are simply pointing out were each shines more and each sign's strength.

You actually even mentioned that Taurus is more skilled at sex or pleasuring than Scorpio so does that mean you are bashing Scorpios then? No.

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posted February 15, 2016 05:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I love my Taurus south node. And my husband's Taurus south node. So cozy.

I have so many fond memories of my Taurus energy revelling in pure contentment...especially with other Taurus people, who know the vibe.

A lot of it has to do with being out in nature.

I mean, my some of my fondest "Taurus" memories are in natural settings...staying out on the beach most of the night, long conversations under the stars or hanging out in a tree, and by campfires. Maybe everyone likes that stuff but I REALLY always liked it.

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posted February 15, 2016 05:34 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
First let me just say that the kind of violent thoughts evoked within me from that pervert's behavior towards you can't even be said here Just had to get that off my chest.

Unfortunately from an astrological view I can see how such things can manifest in your life. The darker side of Pluto is affecting the energies that interact with the world most (Asc. / Mars), as well as your feelings of being appreciated and loved (Venus). It reminds me of a post I did a while back talking about Venus in the 8th, and how they may experience a lot of unwanted attention and negative scenarios surrounding sex.

Often ppl affected by Pluto in this way may feel that something is wrong with them. They may ask themselves, "What it is about me that makes ppl feel they can do that to me? Why are my boundaries constantly tested?". When in reality it is not them at all. The thing about Pluto is that while it does have a magnetic sexual aura, it also (by it's very nature) brings that which is in the dark to light. Most ppl will probably be attracted to you in some way. However, the one's who behave grossly are not being made to do so by your aura. However, what your aura does do is prompt them to reveal that which has been there all along (bring the hidden into the light). Pluto as it pertains to your life forces you to constantly see the side of the world that gets swept under the rug. So it may appear to you that a perfectly normal person turns perverse in your presence, but I assure you that his "normal behavior" towards others is a front. 9 times out of 10, that old man you speak of has violated and abused ppl sexually, but he covers it up well. However once around you, thanks to Pluto, he reveals his true self. Many will reveal their "true selves" to you.

So you may ask, "why are so many ppl's 'true selves' perverse?". Well as odd as it seems, the current state of the world creates more perverts than you may think. It's just that in creating them it also trained them to hide it well. So YES the world unfortunately is really full of perverts and ppl like you end up suffering weird experiences b/c of it. There is a good side to all of this though. If Pluto's effects on you inherently bring out the dark truths in others, then that means the person who respects you when they are around you, treats you well, and makes you feel appreciated is genuinely a good person. That is their true self. A good person may still feel a strong sexual attraction to you that may be evident in some way (that's just how it is having so much Pluto), but they will always respect your boundaries and not make feel grossed out.

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posted February 15, 2016 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
You aren't the only one who likes those kinds of things.

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Wow....

posted February 15, 2016 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:

I do feel though that when someone is able to really "see" you (like peeps with strong scorpio) it validates your existence and the sexual pull intensifies. They become magnetic because, collectively, that's all anyone ever desires - to be seen, heard, etc. and when someone can do that to you, you can't help but be drawn in because you will want more of that. Especially if you never had that as a bub.

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posted February 15, 2016 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:

Ahhh I just love the questions you all have been asking

I believe hard aspects to Pluto are definitely more in your face. It may make your sex-appeal almost abrasively visible, not as in obnoxious or rude, but abrasive as in it literally rubs ppl the wrong way. Whether it is jealousy or just a general unexplained dislike. A good example of what can occur with hard aspects to Pluto would be a person being super attracted to you sexually (even obsessively), yet they may simultaneous feel threatened by you or hate you in some way. Also issues relating to sex-appeal are not the only things that increase with hard aspects. Confrontation totally unrelated to sex-appeal also increases as well. I have Mars Opp Pluto and boy does it create conflict. I affect the feelings of others very strongly and it's usually negative. The thing is, if a person learn to make their hard aspects work in harmony, it is a very powerful tool/energy to have. It is difficult though.

Soft aspects to Pluto on the other hand create more of a fluid sex-appeal. The person strongly attracted to you won't feel any confliction in their desire for you. People will feel your aura and admire it instead of feeling threatened or jealous of it. As if you already earned the right to have such an awesome appeal and so they don't have the right to question it. Much different from the hard aspects in which ppl will constantly think "who the heck does this person think they are?". Also, in matters completely unrelated to sex-appeal, the intensity of Pluto will be better received. It may not scare or creep others out as much as it entrances and mystifies others. This not to say that soft aspects do not give any internal struggle but it is not as volatile as the hard aspects.

As for the houses I happen to be the perfect candidate to speak on 2nd house placements
I have a pretty full 2nd house. The 2nd house is about things of this world (food, money, material items, exchanges, etc). What I find with this is that I am very indulgent. I am sensitive to even a light touch. Sometimes the scents that I smell I can sort of taste in my mouth(which can be good but also horrible ). I literally have an emotional connection to food. Food can turn me on, make me cry, or make me angry hahaha. Slightly lazy. I love to be surrounded by luxury and comfort. This doesn't mean I'm spoiled, it means that even if all I had was a few bucks to work with I would still manage to make my home extremely beautiful. I need to for my well-being. I like the idea of money and making it for financial stability. I have Capricorn energy with my 2nd house so all of the aforementioned is gone about with Capricorn's classy flair and determined drive.

The 8th house is about the things buried or avoided in this world (more so than the obvious things in it), as well as the "other" world...the spirit world. My moon is in the 8th house. The 8th house creates a lot of secrecy and exploration done privately. A an occupied 8th house will make it's themes (death, inheritance, sex, etc.) constant parts of your life. You will look at sex and the appeal of it from every angle. You will have a determination to not only be financially secure but to survive in every aspect of life (physically, emotionally, mentally, etc.). You want to survive this life. My mother has a few 8th house placements and she weathers nearly any situation (driving through blizzards, being her own attorney, etc.) b/c she taps into her ability to fight in this world and win. You will not be very expressive with this house, but when you have had enough ppl will know. You may literally scare ppl with the emotional storms that can arise. Many take past events to their grave.

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I sort of strayed a bit from sex-appeal, but an understanding of what goes on with those houses helps explain the sexual aura given off. 2nd house appeal (like me hehehe) can be sexually alluring but will also radiate a somewhat materialistic and indulgent vibe, A guy may think "she seems sexy but I'm probably going to have to keep her in fine clothes and keep up with her insatiable desires (sexual and otherwise)". 8th house sex-appeal will be magnetic and also promises passion, depth, and emotional exploration, a person may think "wow she is sexy but if I get involved with her I may not ever be the same again".

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Excellent insight. Thanks for taking the time to reply nicely.

I agree with what you said mostly all around in the whole thread too.
I don't have any 2nd house placements but I do have Moon in Taurus in mutual reception with Venus...and Venus is in the 8th . I also have Scorpio SN and ASC...

Taurus/Scorpio, 2nd/8th, it's a interesting dynamic to observe as is with most oppositions!

Good job LBCat

posted February 15, 2016 01:39 PM            

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Wow....

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posted February 15, 2016 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It wouldn't make sense if she said Taurus is more skilled at sex because she's been going on and on with her obsession about how Scorpios are the gods of sex appeal. She puts Scorpios on a pedestal.

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Did you even read the very first thing she posted on this thread??

See below:

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[b]Note: When I mention the effects of Taurus or Scorpio ppl in this thread, I am not merely referring to Sun sign Scorpio or Taurus individuals. It refers to any person who (based on an abundance of energy from those signs via aspects, houses, or planets relating to them) fits the archetype of those signs. Thus a Scorpio Sun who has no other Scorpio/Pluto energy/aspects in their chart would not fit the archetype of the Scorpio energy I describe as well as a Virgo Sun who is extremely Plutonian. So in this case you are not limited to thinking of a Scorpio Sun when I mention Scorpio's sex appeal within the thread, you can think of the Plutonic Virgo as well. [/B]

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How often in this thread have I pointed out that in one of my responses to YOUR thread you said you had sun opposite pluto?? I think this is probably my 3rd time pointing this out.

This means you are a plutonic Taurus and when you are embracing your pluto side that would emit sex appeal. One can argue you should have the best of both worlds the charm, sensuality and warmth of Taurus and the sex appeal of Scorpio if you handle that opposition well and that is how you should be interpreting the information she is sharing with all of us but you don't see her gift, you interpret it negatively as opposed to positively, I hope after this response you start to understand this.

posted February 15, 2016 04:51 PM            

Drives you bonkers and makes you feel small as they test you because they are so insecure but cant admit it, eventually this behavior runs you into the ground and you run out of love for them all together=Scorpio

Makes you feel comforted, loved, holds you when you cry, puts up with your blow ups and apologizes for them even though its not their fault to the point your heart melts and eventually you realize hurting them hurts you=Taurus

posted February 15, 2016 06:06 PM            

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Lust at first sight=Scorpio
Love at first sight=Taurus

Drives you bonkers and makes you feel small as they test you because they are so insecure but cant admit it, eventually this behavior runs you into the ground and you run out of love for them all together=Scorpio

Makes you feel comforted, loved, holds you when you cry, puts up with your blow ups and apologizes for them even though its not their fault to the point your heart melts and eventually you realize hurting them hurts you=Taurus

Ask yourself what planet is more inviting for long term, venus or pluto/mars?

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posted February 15, 2016 07:27 PM            

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Lust at first sight=Scorpio
Love at first sight=Taurus

Drives you bonkers and makes you feel small as they test you because they are so insecure but cant admit it, eventually this behavior runs you into the ground and you run out of love for them all together=Scorpio

Makes you feel comforted, loved, holds you when you cry, puts up with your blow ups and apologizes for them even though its not their fault to the point your heart melts and eventually you realize hurting them hurts you=Taurus

Ask yourself what planet is more inviting for long term, venus or pluto/mars?

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posted February 15, 2016 09:00 PM            

So why didn't she just say I was a plutonic Taurus in my thread instead of making it about Taurus vs Scorpio? I put that I had the Sun opposite Pluto aspect in my thread.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
How often in this thread have I pointed out that in one of my responses to YOUR thread you said you had sun opposite pluto?? I think this is probably my 3rd time pointing this out.

This means you are a plutonic Taurus and when you are embracing your pluto side that would emit sex appeal. One can argue you should have the best of both worlds the charm, sensuality and warmth of Taurus and the sex appeal of Scorpio if you handle that opposition well and that is how you should be interpreting the information she is sharing with all of us but you don't see her gift, you interpret it negatively as opposed to positively, I hope after this response you start to understand this.

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posted February 15, 2016 11:12 PM            

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Yes, I find them to be hedonists.

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