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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 04, 2016 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IME,the Moon is not a sexual planet but one that describes what one perceives as "love".

Most men(including gay men)tend towards wanting to be "mothered"/fussed over when looking for a spouse.

This means that the qualities of the Moon sign/aspects etc, are what they consider to be "love".

So often they project the Moon sign and expect to have that energy fed back to them.

My Dad has Moon/Saturn conjunct.And my Mom has Venus/Saturn conjunct.

I have never seen them be affectionate with each other. And I think my father likes it that way, as he went out to get a "proper" woman and this is the attractive(Venus) quality that my Mom has.

I also notice that my Dad's close friends have a very saturnine quality about them. He doesn't have man. But they are rather traditional/conservative people mostly.

Now to me that suggests that not only does out Moon play a role in choosing our spouse. But it plays a player in choosing our associates as well.

Venus may be what attracts us. But the Moon qualities are what we insist upon.

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posted May 04, 2016 02:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
I think what OP meant is that men with very different Moon/Venus signs (Moon/Venus opposition, square, etc) generally speaking have a harder time finding the right woman to settle with and even if they do they are more likely to long for someone else and maybe even cheat on their partner because their definition of the ideal female is a bit contradicting and not as defined as of men with compatible Moon/Venus signs.

I think we've already covered this.

Quite a few people are balking at that idea (because it's a rather simplistic approach to astrology), but I'm not entirely sure that's what she's trying to imply.

I will give her the benefit of the doubt, based on the clarifications she's made, and assume that she's only trying to prove that the Moon will usually "win out" in the choice of partner for a straight guy, if his Moon is in conflict with his Venus.

Again, just going by what she's already stated here.

Mercury Rx for the win!

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posted May 04, 2016 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic. As a female with a pisces moon and a sag venus I have two ex husbands, one is a pisces and the other is a sag. My current partner of 8 years is a sag. I've learned over the years that I definitely prefer Sagittarius over pisces men so for me venus wins.

Btw, both of the saggies have venus in scorpio which is my sun. Those two men are my two great loves.

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posted May 04, 2016 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Violets
"Mercury Rx for the win!"
hahahahah, yes its so obvious everywhere, I am not even understanding what I say alone, lol

@Ann7 Moon and Venus are for men, Mars and Sun is for women, maybe I missed something in your post?

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posted May 04, 2016 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
I dont agree with this bc i have seen men with compatible (often the trine) aspects between their moon and venus signs that have done exactly that. I know a guy with a cancer moon and a scorpio venus and he went for a cancerian/pisces type which i think might have been a bit too soft, boring and mellow for him in the long run that it made him cheat on her and long for other females. The same he did with another woman he was in a relationship with.

Well we will have to agree to disagree

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posted May 04, 2016 03:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing to do but laugh, and roll our eyes. Lol.

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posted May 04, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I'm not sure. My dad married my Mom and she is an Aries (he has Virgo Venus and Sag Moon). However, my Mom has her Pluto conjunct his Mercury and Venus, but it doesn't square his Sag Moon.



Venus Conjunct Pluto and it worked.

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posted May 04, 2016 03:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really tend to wonder if Venus and Moon are equally important for women in straight relationships (or otherwise).

The men I've dated definitely tend to reflect my Moon or Venus, not particularly my Sun or Mars at all.

I do sometimes wish I could have all of the qualities I enjoy in one partner, but that just doesn't happen (my Mars is exalted at 26 degrees, and only has a sextile to Jupiter and a wide square to Uranus).

(EDIT. My Mars has a square to Uranus, not to itself. )

So I do choose one type or another (but it tends to go back and forth with people).

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posted May 04, 2016 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience it has been their Venus sign.

My dad's venus is in Gemini conjunct my Mom's Moon

My boyfriend (whom I plan on marrying) venus is conjunct my Libra ascendent.

My grandpa's venus is Taurus conjunct my Grandma's Sun

But in good synastry there will be lots of moon aspects as well. My boyfriend has his moon and juno in Gemini and I'm thirdly Gemini dominant and have a 3rd house stellium. So there's that.

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posted May 04, 2016 03:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^

Lol. In related news, all Libra Moons are disloyal and inherently evil.

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posted May 04, 2016 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

This means that the qualities of the Moon sign/aspects etc, are what they consider to be "love".

So often they project the Moon sign and expect to have that energy fed back to them.
Venus may be what attracts us. But the Moon qualities are what we insist upon.


Yeah, sort of can't do without *something* in the synastry feeding the moon..

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posted May 04, 2016 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
IME,the Moon is not a sexual planet but one that describes what one perceives as "love".

Most men(including gay men)tend towards wanting to be "mothered"/fussed over when looking for a spouse.

This means that the qualities of the Moon sign/aspects etc, are what they consider to be "love".

So often they project the Moon sign and expect to have that energy fed back to them.

My Dad has Moon/Saturn conjunct.And my Mom has Venus/Saturn conjunct.

I have never seen them be affectionate with each other. And I think my father likes it that way, as he went out to get a "proper" woman and this is the attractive(Venus) quality that my Mom has.

I also notice that my Dad's close friends have a very saturnine quality about them. He doesn't have man. But they are rather traditional/conservative people mostly.

Now to me that suggests that not only does out Moon play a role in choosing our spouse. But it plays a player in choosing our associates as well.

Venus may be what attracts us. But the Moon qualities are what we insist upon.


What if man doesn't have much going on with his moon? Take a man with Taurus moon in the 2nd, with only a sextile to his Sun? I get that it is doubly Taurian being in the 2nd house but would he look for a woman with Leo characteristics then?

(This particular example has the Gemini Venus in the 3rd, too, by the way, aspected by Mars/Jupiter/Neptune/Pluto)

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posted May 04, 2016 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Lol. In related news, all Libra Moons are disloyal and inherently evil.

J/k
(Not really.)


Can you please stop quoting me, I wasn't even talking to you.

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posted May 04, 2016 03:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I'll unquote you. *shrug*

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quote:
Originally posted by Violets:
I really tend to wonder if Venus and Moon are equally important for women in straight relationships (or otherwise).

The men I've dated definitely tend to reflect my Moon or Venus, not particularly my Sun or Mars at all.

I do sometimes wish I could have all of the qualities I enjoy in one partner, but that just doesn't happen (my Mars is exalted at 26 degrees, and only has a sextile to Jupiter and a wide square to Uranus).

(EDIT. My Mars has a square to Uranus, not to itself. )

So I do choose one type or another (but it tends to go back and forth with people).



i agree with you. I got a cancer moon and i can so relate to what cancer mars women like in a man esp this part- "If a woman's Mars is in Cancer, she may prefer the "sensitive type" of man who is compassionate, sensitive, and protective. These women sometimes are attracted to temperamental sorts, finding moodiness in a man rather intriguing. They want men with "layers" (remember Shrek?). "

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posted May 04, 2016 03:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
I really tend to wonder if Venus and Moon are equally important for women in straight relationships (or otherwise).

The men I've dated definitely tend to reflect my Moon or Venus, not particularly my Sun or Mars at all.

I do sometimes wish I could have all of the qualities I enjoy in one partner, but that just doesn't happen (my Mars is exalted at 26 degrees, and only has a sextile to Jupiter and a wide square to Uranus).

(EDIT. My Mars has a square to Uranus, not to itself. )

So I do choose one type or another (but it tends to go back and forth with people).


Yeah! Hard to discount the importance of Venus to women, regardless of Sun & Mars.. You know how sometimes we have those relationships wherein we love them, but don't really *like* them? They eventually become deeply un-fulfilling. Venus helps with that - it adds some *genuine* like. The kind that won't make you go on to detest them, even in the middle of the worst of fights. Venus-to-personal planets will sprinkle some fairy dust on their flaws, not in a Neptunian way - but in a head-shaking-but-accepting way. It's hard to find things wrong about them in the first place, but even when something about them rubs us the wrong way - it'll be *accepted* by the Venus person. They truly love you just the way you are. They admire the quirks, as well as the nicey-nice parts. (Close to unconditional, in a way).

There's no love without like, and Venus is the cosmic blend of those two. (When you think about *like* here, think about its purest meaning - adoration, the beginnings and foundations of love as we know it).

Sometimes when relationships end, people find themselves wondering - "what did I ever see in him/her?" --> That will never happen with Venus in the mix.

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Yeah! Hard to discount the importance of Venus to women, regardless of Sun & Mars.. You know how sometimes we have those relationships wherein we love them, but don't really *like* them? They eventually become deeply un-fulfilling. Venus helps with that - it adds some *genuine* like. The kind that won't make you go on to detest them, even in the middle of the worst of fights. Venus-to-personal planets will sprinkle some fairy dust on their flaws, not in a Neptunian way - but in a head-shaking-but-accepting way. It's hard to find things wrong about them in the first place, but even when something about them rubs us the wrong way - it'll be *accepted* by the Venus person. They truly love you just the way you are. They admire the quirks, as well as the nicey-nice parts. (Close to unconditional, in a way).

There's no love without like, and Venus is the cosmic blend of those two. (When you think about *like* here, think about its purest meaning - adoration, the beginnings and foundations of love as we know it).

Sometimes when relationships end, people find themselves wondering - "what did I ever see in him/her?" --> That will never happen with Venus in the mix.


This is so true. People can grate on my Cardinal squares (Pluto and Saturn), which normally creates some pretty strong ill will for me, but if their Venus makes a nice trine to something in my chart, or vice versa, I can easily just sigh and accept it, for the most part.

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posted May 04, 2016 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Southern Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps this is a clue to my General trend of interested guys having planets in Capricorn, Scorpio and Pisces. Most commonly was a combination of mars in Scorpio or Capricorn, and Moon in Pisces.

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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:

i agree with you. I got a cancer moon and i can so relate to what cancer mars women like in a man esp this part- "If a woman's Mars is in Cancer, she may prefer the "sensitive type" of man who is compassionate, sensitive, and protective. These women sometimes are attracted to temperamental sorts, finding moodiness in a man rather intriguing. They want men with "layers" (remember Shrek?). "

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Originally posted by Violets:
This is so true. People can grate on my Cardinal squares (Pluto and Saturn), which normally creates some pretty strong ill will for me, but if their Venus makes a nice trine to something in my chart, or vice versa, I can easily just sigh and accept it, for the most part.

Yeah, having those squares thrown in might be some internal struggles for you... The hedgehog-instinct of the squares somewhat smoothed over by Venus darling..

(I say this 'coz I have a Pluto square to my Moon, and it feels like being a hedgehog, emotionally.. And some not-so-nice Saturn squares, which also have such vibes.)

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posted May 04, 2016 04:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I liken it more to a honey badger.

Edit.
Maybe it's my Mars/Uranus square that's the honey badger. Hard to say with those squares!

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posted May 04, 2016 04:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
I liken it more to a honey badger.

My Sun and Moon don't want to step on toes, but they're getting bulldozed by Mars at the moment, so my Sag NN is pretty happy.


Bwahahaa..honey badger!! Furry but fierce. I can see why your Sag NN would love 'em.

[ Side note: I do think hedgehogs are misunderstood little creatures though. How their quills feel depends on how they feel around you. Uber-sensitive fellas. I always wanted a few in my garden. For that matter, I need a garden first. <End-of-ramble> ]

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Hedgehogs are so dang cute! But yeah, I wouldn't want to touch one on the defense.

Okay, I'll stop derailing now, sorry.

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Originally posted by Violets:
Hedgehogs are so dang cute! But yeah, I wouldn't want to touch one on the defense.

Okay, I'll stop derailing now, sorry.


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