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Topic: Do men marry their Moon or their Venus?
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Belage
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posted May 04, 2016 10:51 AM
  
In my observations, men are attracted to women who embody the qualities of their natal moon and venus, but it seems that the moon wins if there is conflict between moon and venus when it comes to who the men marry. For instance, if a man has moon in cancer and venus in capricorn, he will marry a cancerian type of woman while yearning for a capricornian type of woman. Your thoughts?
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Electro DGX
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posted May 04, 2016 10:59 AM
I'm not sure. My dad married my Mom and she is an Aries (he has Virgo Venus and Sag Moon). However, my Mom has her Pluto conjunct his Mercury and Venus, but it doesn't square his Sag Moon. ------------------
Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
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Belage
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posted May 04, 2016 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I'm not sure. My dad married my Mom and she is an Aries (he has Virgo Venus and Sag Moon). However, my Mom has her Pluto conjunct his Mercury and Venus, but it doesn't square his Sag Moon.
Pluto conjunct Venus is always potent, of course and will definitely grab a man.You said he has Sag moon. It matches the fire element of her Aries sun. ETA: does your mom have any planet in Sag? or is she Sag rising? IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted May 04, 2016 11:13 AM
My mom is a Sag void, and she has no planets in the 9th house either. However, she has an Aries Sun and Ascendant, along with Aries Mercury and a Leo Mars. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted May 04, 2016 11:30 AM
Okay, I *was* going to comment, but this quote:
he will marry a cancerian type of woman while yearning for a capricornian type of woman.
is a bit excessive, and makes me personally want to ditch the thread, because I don't actually want to contribute to that sort of mentality.Just throwing that out there, food for thought.  IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted May 04, 2016 11:32 AM
^^^ Your mom has LOTS OF FIRE!!Please tell me more about your dad's Sag moon. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted May 04, 2016 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Okay, I *was* going to comment, but this [QUOTE]he will marry a cancerian type of woman while yearning for a capricornian type of woman.
is a bit excessive, and makes me personally want to ditch the thread, because I don't actually want to contribute to that sort of mentality.Just throwing that out there, food for thought. [/QUOTE] Huh? Sorry, I didn't mean to upset anyone. Can you be more precise about exactly what you find offensive about the statement? I'd appreciate it. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted May 04, 2016 11:50 AM
Lol. I'm just wondering why he has to be "yearning for a capricornian type of woman", instead of it simply being a preference to marry a Cancerian type of woman? Worded that way, I feel like I'm saying "so-and-so married a person like his Moon, but he REALLY wishes he had married a completely different type of person". It just seems like kind of a blanket statement? Maybe it's just Mercury messing around with communication, though.  Edit.
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Electro DGX
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posted May 04, 2016 11:55 AM
I think the way it was worded may have provoked that reaction. If you analyze it, one can interpret it as marrying the Cancer woman but not truly loving her, wishing to marry someone else. In other words, it would look like unfaithfulness and deception/being cheated on. That might be it. As said though, Mercury is in Retro so that screws everything up lolAnyways, as for my dad's Sag Moon, it sits in the 7th house making a Trine to his Leo Sun, square his Virgo Venus (although a bit wide, 9 degrees), and Trine his Jupiter in Aries, forming a Grand Trine between his Sun, Moon, and Jupiter. He also has Chiron in Aries and Neptune in Sag, the latter making squares to his Mercury and Venus in Virgo. ------------------
Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
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Belage
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posted May 04, 2016 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Lol. I'm just wondering why he has to be "yearning for a capricornian type of woman", instead of it simply being a preference to marry a Cancerian type of woman? That makes me feel like I'm saying "so-and-so married a person like his Moon, but he REALLY wishes he had married a completely different type of person". It just seems like kind of a blanket statement? Maybe it's just Mercury messing around with communication, though.
Ok. I gave the example of a man with moon in a sign opposite Venus. With this type of aspect, there is going to be duality in what he likes. If he gets one and not the other, there will be yearning. Sorry to offend you or anyone. I have not been here in a while and am not in touch with what is PC to say about astrology anymore. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted May 04, 2016 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Anyways, as for my dad's Sag Moon, it sits in the 7th house making a Trine to his Leo Sun, square his Virgo Venus (although a bit wide, 9 degrees), and Trine his Jupiter in Aries, forming a Grand Trine between his Sun, Moon, and Jupiter. He also has Chiron in Aries and Neptune in Sag, the latter making squares to his Mercury and Venus in Virgo.
Okay, your dad's moon is part of a grand trine of fire. 
Im just trying to find ways to substantiate my theory, lol. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted May 04, 2016 12:09 PM
^^^ But seriously @Electro DGX. This proves my theory. Your dad married a fiery type of woman, which matches his Sag moon. He didn't marry a Virgoan type of woman to match his Virgo Venus. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted May 04, 2016 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
Ok. I gave the example of a man with moon in a sign opposite Venus. With this type of aspect, there is going to be duality in what he likes. If he gets one and not the other, there will be yearning. Sorry to offend you or anyone. I have not been here in a while and am not in touch with what is PC to say about astrology anymore.
I'm not offended. I'm also not in charge of what's PC and what's not here, just making an observation. I will chalk it up to my brain fog and Mercury retrograde that I misunderstood what you were saying initially. Yes, I suppose there would be a slight conflict if there were an opposition or otherwise hard aspect. I don't know if I would call that "yearning" for the other thing (I have Moon barely quincunx Venus, for example, but I don't necessarily long for anything I don't have on a regular basis...sometimes, yes, but not as a general rule). Anyway, I wouldn't worry about offending or what is PC or not. I just thought I would throw it out there for consideration. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted May 04, 2016 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
^^^ But seriously. Your dad married a fiery type of woman, which matches his Sag moon. He didn't marry a Virgoan type of woman to match his Virgo Venus.
That is true. However, their Venuses are in opposition; My mom has a 12th house Pisces Venus. Not to mention my dad has a Gemini Mars that squares her Venus. Her Moon is conjunct his Saturn and making a T-Square with his natal Chiron and Uranus exact, whilst being trine to his N.N. in Scorpio. These are just details though about their synastry. ------------------
Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus
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margym0o
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posted May 04, 2016 12:18 PM
The same is said for women, though...about their Sun and Mars.Does a women marry her Sun while yearning for her Mars? It can be spun so many different ways too, to where you can stretch just about anything to fit someone's symbolism. If a man has something to match my Cappy Mars, but has nothing in Gemini to match my Sun, do 3rd house planets count? Heavily aspected Mercury count? Other air planets like Libra or Aquarius count? You can come up with any number of combinations to suit what someone is "looking" for. Does the DSC not count for anything? Take for instance a man's DSC ruler Venus in Gemini in the 3rd house in his chart. Say a woman's Gemini Sun conjuncts his Gemini Venus (his DSC ruler). This would have a greater impact since his Venus is a more important planet to his relationship preferences. I don't think it's as black and white as this. To add...using myself as an example again. I think it has to be a combination of both, at least for me. If I married a wacky Gemini Sun like myself without having any of the stable, grounded, mature energy of Capricorn/Saturn I'd probably go berserk. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted May 04, 2016 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by margym0o:
The same is said for women, though...about their Sun and Mars.Does a women marry her Sun while yearning for her Mars? It can be spun so many different ways too, to where you can stretch just about anything to fit someone's symbolism. If a man's Cappy Sun matches my Cappy Mars, but has nothing in Gemini to match my Sun, do 3rd house planets count? Heavily aspected Mercury count? Other air planets like Libra or Aquarius count? You can come up with any number of combinations to suit what someone is "looking" for. Does the DSC not count for anything? Take for instance a man's DSC ruler Venus in Gemini in the 3rd house in his chart. Say a woman's Gemini Sun conjuncts his Gemini Venus (his DSC ruler). This would have a greater impact since his Venus is a more important planet to his relationship preferences. I don't think it's as black and white as this.
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Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
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Belage
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posted May 04, 2016 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by margym0o:
The same is said for women, though...about their Sun and Mars.Does a women marry her Sun while yearning for her Mars? It can be spun so many different ways too, to where you can stretch just about anything to fit someone's symbolism. If a man has something to match my Cappy Mars, but has nothing in Gemini to match my Sun, do 3rd house planets count? Heavily aspected Mercury count? Other air planets like Libra or Aquarius count? You can come up with any number of combinations to suit what someone is "looking" for. Does the DSC not count for anything? Take for instance a man's DSC ruler Venus in Gemini in the 3rd house in his chart. Say a woman's Gemini Sun conjuncts his Gemini Venus (his DSC ruler). This would have a greater impact since his Venus is a more important planet to his relationship preferences. I don't think it's as black and white as this. To add...using myself as an example again. I think it has to be a combination of both, at least for me. If I married a wacky Gemini Sun like myself without having any of the stable, grounded, mature energy of Capricorn/Saturn I'd probably go berserk.
My intention was no to make something black and white; astrology is not black and white. However, in astrology, we are able to make certain theories which tend to apply to most people most of the time.
For instance, we can all agree that Aries sun people are fiery and self-directed; while acknowledging that if Saturn or venus aspects that Aries sun, those qualities may be diluted or kept at bay. That does not negate the original premise though that Aries sun tends to be fiery and self-directed.My original intent is to formulate a theory on who men marry. We all know that the moon and venus are important markers for men in terms of who they are attracted to and who they marry. The question is, if there is a conflict between the two planets, what I am saying is that the moon will tend to win. Of course, that's in general, putting aside other things like the descendant etc...
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Violets
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posted May 04, 2016 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
The question is, if there is a conflict between the two planets, what I am saying is that the moon will tend to win. Of course, that's in general, putting aside other things like the descendant etc...
I do tend to agree with this theory (it seems true in the cases I'm looking at, anyway).
Having issued my disclaimer of sorts, I'll give you the examples I have. I have also found your theory to be true in my own life, although my husband is more like my Venus and Dsc than my Sun, Mars, or Moon. But then, we have Venus trine Venus, Moon trine Moon, and his NN and Mars are conjunct m Dsc. Anyywayy... IP: Logged |
diamondbaby
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posted May 04, 2016 12:52 PM
In my opinion, men definitely marry their Moon sign type of woman. Sun is the archetypal male energy (husband) and Moon is the archetypal female energy (wife). Mars and Venus represent sexuality and attraction in synastry, but in my opinion they don't have much to do with emotional compatibility and marriage itself. While sexual compatibility (Venus/Mars) is very important, when it comes to marriage most people seek a deep, emotional/spiritual bond also.I find men with harmonious Moon/Venus aspects (specifically Moon/Venus conjunction and trine; sextile not so much) very loving, caring, and loyal. My husband has Moon/Venus conjunction in Leo. His Moon/Venus conjuncts my Moon, and my Venus is in a fire sign as well (Sagittarius). I'm a very Leo-like woman (I not only have Moon, but Ascendant and Jupiter in Leo as well, plus my Sun and Venus is the 5th house). My husband knew the very first moment we met that I'm his type.  IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted May 04, 2016 12:56 PM
My dad has Venus in Libra, and Moon in Pisces. He married two Cancer women. My step-mom and my dad have much more complimentary aspects with each other, as she has Libra Rising, and I believe her Venus is trine his Moon. Although I have Leo Rising, I think my Virgo Moon often gets the upper hand with other placements.My husband has Venus in Leo, and Moon in Capricorn. His Moon is trine my Virgo Moon and conjunct my Capricorn Vertex. His Venus is also trine my Venus and NN. I have Venus in Aries, barely quincunx my Virgo Moon. My husband is actually much more Aries-like, as he has Leo Sun, Venus, and Vertex. He has very little water in his chart, which is where my Sun is...BUT we both have Sun in H8. My Mars is in Capricorn, as is his Moon (not conjunct), but he doesn't always act out his Cap Moon, although it's definitely not neglected. As an afterthought, my Mars is trine his Pluto, which is also probably a bit complimentary, considering we both have considerable H8 placements? Those are the examples I can think of off the top of my head, but I'll look around a bit. Edit.
I know that's quite a bit of additional information, but I think it's of considerable relevance to look at other aspects that contribute to the initial inclination to be attracted to a Moon type. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted May 04, 2016 01:09 PM
@diamondbaby
really strong bonds the ones with your husband!  so nice!  OK,I'll try that, too.
I am not married and I am a woman, lol, so..
my dad has Cap Moon and Venus in Aqua, my mom has Virgo Sun (trine his Cap Sun) and a 10th house stellium, so it fits his Cap Moon (and Sun), but not his Aqua Venus. My Mom has Aqua IC though, so there is that, too! But other than that, she doesn't have anything in Aqua, only Mars in Libra and NN in 11th..(I'll go check again, this is from the top of my head lol)
Hope this helps! ETA : I think both can play a role, too, maybe Venus more indirectly or it can depend from the man's natal, if he has stronger Moon or Venus for instance! So maybe this is the most important thing after all!
Ill have to think about my mars vs. Sun to be sure. Mars is in Libra in the 9th and I had a 7-year relationship with a Libra Sun, Merc. with Mars in sag lol. I don't remember his entire chart, though..
Now my current SO has his Sun and Merc. in the 9th and a Sag Dsc. From the libra-part, he has anything, but still looks more important to me than my ex. 
Then, about my Sun, I have Leo sun in the 7th plus a 7th house stellium, my ex had libra sun-merc. as I said and Leo MC.
Now my SO has LEO IC and NN, nothing libra-influenced.
My mars is conjunct Pluto, sextile Neptune and square my Sun and Mercury.
My Sun is conjunct Mercury, square my Mars and Pluto conj. and my Jupiter, trine my Uranus.
Which of the two is stronger? LOL, I am confused by my own rambling! 
Maybe someone else might offer some new thoughts about this..so I can be more clear 
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PixieJane
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posted May 04, 2016 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
In my observations, men are attracted to women who embody the qualities of their natal moon and venus, but it seems that the moon wins if there is conflict between moon and venus when it comes to who the men marry. For instance, if a man has moon in cancer and venus in capricorn, he will marry a cancerian type of woman while yearning for a capricornian type of woman. Your thoughts?
So what you're saying...is that he'll be attracted to his lunar qualities more than Venusian. I can see why someone would think that. ('Course, it might be different if we were still in the days of shotgun weddings. ) But it almost sounds like you're saying that a man will marry one type of woman while being attracted to or tempted by mistresses on the side. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91
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posted May 04, 2016 01:43 PM
My brother got a cancer moon and a capricorn venus. The ones he is often drawn to and forms a relationship with are very cancerian in their behavior. They often are stay at home types, emotional and needy and like to cook but his moon is also opposite venus which might also explain the attraction towards cancerian types bc he is not the first guy with a moon-venus aspect i have seen been drawn to cancerian types. Another guy i know with aries moon conj aries venus has gone for the same types as my brother. But i can also see cap traits in the women my brother is drawn to as well and all of them have had earth influence too. Actually none of them have had anything in water signs. IP: Logged |
diamondbaby
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posted May 04, 2016 01:56 PM
I think what OP meant is that men with very different Moon/Venus signs (Moon/Venus opposition, square, etc) generally speaking have a harder time finding the right woman to settle with and even if they do they are more likely to long for someone else and maybe even cheat on their partner because their definition of the ideal female is a bit contradicting and not as defined as of men with compatible Moon/Venus signs.IP: Logged |
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posted May 04, 2016 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
I think what OP meant is that men with very different Moon/Venus signs (Moon/Venus opposition, square, etc) generally speaking have a harder time finding the right woman to settle with and even if they do they are more likely to long for someone else and maybe even cheat on their partner because their definition of the ideal female is a bit contradicting and not as defined as of men with compatible Moon/Venus signs.
I dont agree with this bc i have seen men with compatible (often the trine) aspects between their moon and venus signs that have done exactly that. I know a guy with a cancer moon and a scorpio venus and he went for a cancerian/pisces type which i think might have been a bit too soft, boring and mellow for him in the long run that it made him cheat on her and long for other females. The same he did with another woman he was in a relationship with. IP: Logged | |
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