posted May 30, 2020 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Seline:
.. it doesn't have to lead to relationship (also, his mother might like you a bit too much).

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You mean the Cappy moon guy may be jealous
of Cappy DC girl ? It’s just that I noticed some odd jealousy from him regarding me with his daughter -until I backed off. He resents me for that too (can’t win)

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I’ve been told that man's Venus is his preferred type,
AND his wife before marriage (her background, job, habits, etc).

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Seline, what if a girl’s Venus sign corresponds with a guy’s AC, is he also interested ? Or is AC too impersonal and it’s perhaps perceived more by others that the girl with the same Venus as the guy’s AC could be suitable for him?

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The Moon is girlfriend's behavior and fate once she gets married.

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Behavior and fate?
Does this mean that the Girlfriend -regardless of her Moon sign - might unconsciously start to behave like the guy’s Moon sign ?

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And vice versa, same applies to woman's Mars and Sun.

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Sorry to hijack the thread with this ,but with my mars conjunct IC and my Juno on the other side of the IC,
do I need an especially deep connection and expression? I have Leo sun and a lot of personal planets in Leo. Do I need a fire sign to feel understood ? Or do I need to speak out to the world and not focus all this energy and hopes on one person?

posted May 30, 2020 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Seline:
It does. Trust me. It does.

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Which Lilith?

Talking about progression, I don't even remember the exactly date of our official, so many hurt feelings that some memories are gone.

posted May 31, 2020 01:10 AM            

OK, my fingers are ready.

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Originally posted by viviette:
You mean the Cappy moon guy may be jealous of Cappy DC girl ? It’s just that I noticed some odd jealousy from him regarding me with his daughter -until I backed off. He resents me for that too (can’t win)

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Yes, but I've meant something else with that Mom thing. Cappy Moon can be possessive and jealous, and likes to have a little spotlight above his head (1/4 of Leo's spotlight, but still the spotlight). Of course, not all of them are like that. But, it doesn't have to be jealousy, it could be trust issue. Moon in other's 7th feels great, wants partnership and family, but because of Capricorn, strong trust must be established first. He has to trust you first to let you near his daughter. So, he might be just conflicted.

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Seline, what if a girl’s Venus sign corresponds with a guy’s AC, is he also interested ? Or is AC too impersonal and it’s perhaps perceived more by others that the girl with the same Venus as the guy’s AC could be suitable for him?

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If I understood you correctly, the girl's Venus is in the same sign as the guy's AC? Is it in conjunction? Is the Venus in 1st or 12th house? If it's the case of conjunction or first house placement, yes. That AC guy can find the Venus girl irresistible. And this aspect can bring attraction that can last into old age. Provided that everything else supports that aspect.

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Behavior and fate?
Does this mean that the Girlfriend -regardless of her Moon sign - might unconsciously start to behave like the guy’s Moon sign ?

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How do I put it together without confusing everybody and myself included..cause I'm very good at that.
You're still you. It's how the symbolism of his Moon plays out for you (so, behavior). Moon signs don't have necessarily to match, what's important is girl's overall chart, her energy and how she fits into his story.

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Sorry to hijack the thread with this ,but with my mars conjunct IC ...?

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So, Juno is on MC? Opposing your Mars/IC? If that's the case that would mean that you'll put great effort into aiding your future husband's career and building of his reputation, but not without some internal hurdles. I.e. power plays at home between you two. It doesn't say much about your basic needs.

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I have Leo sun and a lot of personal planets in Leo. Do I need a fire sign to feel understood ? Or do I ...?

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No, you don't. But I can't claim that in your case, because I don't know your whole chart.

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My Pisces Boyf has 2 or 3 grand trines- would this kind of person seem attractive for...

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Ah..so..is he lazy? Are that Grand Water trines? I can't tell you without looking at his chart.

posted May 31, 2020 01:21 AM            

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Which Lilith?

Talking about progression, I don't even remember the exactly date of our official, so many hurt feelings that some memories are gone.

I just realize the Juno in man and woman, although in the same sign, can manifest different traits. And are you only consider a hard aspect?

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Black Moon Lilith.
I have her Rising and there are so many funny memories...

Regarding Juno, yes. The meaning can change depending on gender, but there is a common link.

posted May 31, 2020 10:41 AM            

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Black Moon Lilith.
I have her Rising and there are so many funny memories...

Regarding Juno, yes. The meaning can change depending on gender, but there is a common link.

I consider all aspects, but look first at hard ones. Those are the ones that can manifest immediately or more quickly. Also, the aspect's strength. Extra tight sextile can be more meaningful than nice but wide trine.

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Isn't BML like a dark primal instinct? Or probably our deepest issues? How come it can be fun?

So, what do you think if both person has each Lilith in another each sun, a conjunction? In general.

I'm new learning about BML because I don't really focus on asteroids. It's actually interesting finding out my husband's BML and what its stated about it, also mine. But it looks like its relate to more personal matter than I find it an attraction factor. Well, I don't know, maybe I don't like the hard aspect touches my BML? Or am I in denial? Haha..

posted May 31, 2020 01:16 PM            

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@viviette
Ah..so..is he lazy? Are that Grand Water trines?

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Selene,
I wouldn’t say he is lazy at work (but it could appear that way as he hasnt been promoted in 16 years)
he is socially active / almost stressed going out of his way for the outside world including colleagues.
At home he feels he has the right to chillax
Unless something is broken or there is urgent admin to do, he will TOTALLY switch off at home. Even from his kid. So I don’t particularly like nights in .

2 Grand trines in Air 😮
both (!) are in : Gem Libra Aqua

Apart from Aqua Venus quintile Chiron, the grand trines are the tightest orbs in his chart.
(I have AC quintile Chiron - maybe he notices)

posted June 02, 2020 11:36 AM            

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Isn't BML like a dark primal instinct? Or probably our deepest issues? How come it can be fun?

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Yes, it does cover those issues, and more. There are two types. The low Lilith is the one that's most discussed, often in terms of sexual attraction & expression. The other one is evolved Lilith that I won't comment on now, cause it should be a topic for itself. Most people experience the first one. It's subconscious, unless it's Rising. If you want to study it more, go hard on mythology and include both Lilith the asteroid and Algol (there are three faces of Lilith).

Speaking of "fun" - I was reminiscing about my younger days, my behavior and the reactions of people with whom I had hard Lilith contacts. Thinking of it now, I would very much like to run myself over with the forklift.

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So, what do you think if both person has each Lilith in another each sun, a conjunction? In general.

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Best case scenario - If the Sun is the Ego, then breaking the chains of ego, evolving together. Strong mutual attraction too.

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I'm new learning about BML because I don't really focus on asteroids. It's actually interesting finding out my husband's BML and what its stated about it, also mine. But it looks like its relate to more personal matter than I find it an attraction factor. Well, I don't know, maybe I don't like the hard aspect touches my BML? Or am I in denial? Haha..

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It depends. You can be absolutely repulsed by Lilith contacts. Or don't feel them at all. It depends on how BML is integrated into your chart.
Mine is integrated to the extent that my chart can be read correctly only in the context of Lilith, and I need strong Lilith/Pluto/Uranus aspects/people in a relationship to actually feel something and be understood.
I have strong Lilith with my husband, on top of already hyper-sexual synastry. Mutual attraction is through the roof and fortunately for both parties involved, he has very good grip on his own Lilith too. The overall result is the partnership of equals.

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Edit:Looking back again my synastry with my ex who said that I was his soulmate and only within a month in a relationship he asked me to marry him, his Juno conjunct my Venus, Juno conjunct Juno wide aspect, and his Lilith conjunct my Sun. Wow. I didn't know how strong it had an impact to him but not me? Hmmm...

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I had the similar situation with Gemini ex. His Juno exactly on my Venus opp my Lilith, both Junos in the same sign. His Lilith was I think on my Uranus, so Sun's ruler. It was an instant "OMG! You're the one" from him (Juno/Venus shouts that), but I attributed a lot of that attraction, familiarity and feeling of solumateness to our Venus/SN, Moon/NN and Venus/Pluto. What it really was is his Saturn on my SN (this aspect alone can cause insane attraction). He was repaying the karmic dept, the rest was there to keep us tightly together for that reason.

posted June 02, 2020 11:48 AM            

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Selene,
I wouldn’t say he is lazy at work (but it could appear that way as ...

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Grand Water and Air trines function in a similar way, both are introverted with an extremely rich inner world and can appear lazy or unmotivated. The thing is that he could probably achieve whatever he wants with very little effort, just needs good kick in the butt... (I have few Grand Water trines, so I recognize the behavior).

So, all in his head? Detached intellectual?
He's Pisces, Gemini Rising with the Moon in Libra, right? Or is it still Capricorn? (I saw your original post but I couldn't answer you right away, I think I saw you mentioning Libra)

posted June 02, 2020 03:06 PM            

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So, all in his head? Detached intellectual?
He's Pisces, Gemini Rising
with the Moon in Libra, right? Or is it still Capricorn?
(I saw your original post but I couldn't answer you right away, I think I saw you mentioning Libra)

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Moon is in Cap 7th house (but cusp/DC is in Sag (split house Sag+Cap)
Aqua Venus conjunct Juno in 9th

posted June 02, 2020 03:22 PM            

Re: type
Oh he seems bored if he’s not on the phone or watching tv , very curious, communicates info to others, wants to catch up for not having paid aretention at school (can’t spell well, feels it’s held him back in achieving/self value), health&safety volunteer committee at work (but I introduced him to hand washing lol), no boundaries but ok with commitment, but a bit patrolling.

Always busy and distracted but when with a third party they are made to feel like the only person in the world.
We only have good communication when we are separated by phones. Changes his mind a lot. His home is his fortress. He rests physically , yet is not at rest mentally. I got him to stop drinking coffee hevdoesvt need it
Plays cool.
Divorced and also has a small kid from a non marriage which he is not firm enough with and now shés running rings around him.

Regarding « us »
We are around eachother physically but he is not available for us from my viewpoint. I have to accept that he is distracted when we go out analyzing others, looking at fancy shoes, surveying his kid
and mostly updates me on admin and tasks..sometimes I wonder what he wants from the rel’ship, especially as it’s like we hardly look at eachother I guess it’s the aQua Venus (the collective ..more « they » , than « us ») I have Leo Venus and Libra Moon I do t mind organised but I don’t like detached as it Feels like we’re living along side eachother instead of with eachother.
But perhaps a rel’ship shouldn’t be my focus and this is a good way to learn. But i remember in the past wheh i was detached I was independent and not really in love so I associate that behaviour with him not being bothered. It’s lîe I am watching a FILM or I am an extra in his. And this is a Leo speaking 😅 maybe my Sun conjunction Saturn almost expects it .