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Topic: Do men marry their Moon or their Venus?
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Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1571 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted May 24, 2020 07:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Yanmorg: This is interesting. Do they marry their moon-venus type aspect wise and symbolically or just by sign? Example, you can touch a man's moon to the core with a lot of aspects to his moon and Venus without you actually matching the sumbolism or qualities of those planets in the signs in question. My first love was a Scorpio with Moon, Mercury, and Venus in Sagittarius with Venus ruling his 7th. On a soul level, we not only had positive moon-moon, but moon-pluto double whammy, moon-saturn double whammy, and 7th/ 8th house overlays double whammy with almost all of our personal planets in each other's house. The catch? His Venus was unaspected in our synastry besides an exact quintile to my Saturn and an exact conjunction to my psyche asteroid. So in this unique situation, although he was deeply and madly in love, he couldn't commit. We dated on and off for 7 years. Now he's happily in love (supposedly) with a Sagittarius woman with moon in Taurus. Her Moon is opposite his Sun and his Venus in conjunct her Sun very tightly. He says this is the best relationship he's ever been in and she's the best thing that has ever happened to him. There's more going on behind the scenes and I know my first love very well so I doubt it but I'm sure he's very attached on a gut level considering they have moon square pluto in composite. He's a womanizer to say the least though. Anyway, gst my observation? I matched the symbolism of his 7th/ 8th house along with his moon, but his Venus was unaspected so in the end, he probably felt there was something still missing. Since he's mostly Sag, I'm sure a lighter relationship emotionally along with his 7th house ruler being activated, is a much better choice in terms of partnership if we're sticking to the rule that men marry their Moon-Venus signs.
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DecimaLife Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted May 24, 2020 12:33 PM
I have moon in leo opposite venus in aquarius. I would say, most of the time it is moon for me. I am attracted to confident, generous girls with great hair. Venus in my chart represents that I like things as a hobby: astrology, hanging out with friends, coding etc.But on the other hand my friend is attracted to his venus, not his moon. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted May 24, 2020 06:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astra: I think men are more likely to marry their moon sign. To me, the moon sign represents our emotional nature and what we find comforting. A woman who is compatible with a man's emotional nature would be highly attractive on a deeper emotional and psychological level.A woman who embodies a man's venus sign would be attractive on a purely physical and superficial level. She is like a painting that a man would admire from afar, but there is no emotional attachment. Ideally, the wife would share characteristics with both the man's moon and venus signs, but if a choice needs to be made, then a man will most likely choose the moon sign. The exception might be a man (usually very young men) who marry based on physical attraction alone. Again, this is all very general. Attraction is more complex than venus and moon signs. For women, the sun and moon sign are supposed to represent her ideal type of man. For me, both my sun and mars signs are in Gemini, but I see Gemini men strictly as friends. I find Capricorn men extremely attractive (my moon and ascendant are in Capricorn). Scorpios are a close second. I feel like these are the only two signs that truly understand me on a deeper level.
I agree. My husband has early degree Capricorn moon and I have early degree of Aquarius sun. Not sure if it makes some aspect, his early degree Venus in Gemini trine my sun. Although I have Asc conjunct Saturn that might be similar to his Cap moon (but my Uranus also conjunct Asc), this is what I feel and I truly think which kind of sad for me to think about because it is true... that he doesn't have deep emotional attachment to me. I don't know if it is normal for a Gemini sun gives that vibe or act like that, but I really do not feel he is connected to me in emotional/deeper level. I feel like he is with me but his head is out there. He lives with me but he cares more about the life of others. He is more attracted to my physical, beautiful face, great sex, all the superficiality than trying to get to know my personality, who am I and fall for it. He almost never asks personal questions, not even trying to get to know what's my favorite. I feel like he misunderstoods me a lot just because he has difficult time to connect, but the blame is always on me. Sometimes I feel like just a trophy wife. My moon makes a sextile to his Sun, so I feel like I connect to him but he doesn't connect to me. Or is it the problem of his Moon conjunct Neptune? I don't know. I am more attentive to his than him to me on emotional level which cause unhappiness from my side because I'm tired having to explain everything when he can't even connect. My Dad is an Aquarius moon with Venus in Cancer, and he is married to an Aquarius sun and he said it was the best decision he made. And I see how he understands her at emotional/deeper level. My mother's Aries moon is also in the same element to my Leo sun Dad. They act like they walk side by side, not trying to dominate one another or lead one another. They have healthy partnership in my opinion, they also do business together with less tense.
I have also seen if Men's moon make an aspect to Women's sun, the Men most likely when things get harder, they seem can easily understand the Women side better than the moon doesn't make an aspect. IP: Logged |
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posted May 24, 2020 08:01 PM
I can't remember when, where, or how but I'm pretty sure an interesting study was done with married couples in relation to their Lilith placements.It was found that a majority of the couples spouses had their Lilith signs or opposite Lilith within their spouses Sun signs. I know that sounds confusing too. I'll use an example to make more sense of it. It also applies to the house that your Lilith sits in as well. So for example, if you have your Lilith in Scorpio in the 3rd house; you could end up marrying a Scorpio, Gemini, Sagittarius, or Taurus Sun sign affiliation. It could be any combinations with either the Sun or the house that the Sun sits in. The idea is that Lilith and its house will show up in some shape or form (whether opposite or not) in your spouses Sun sign as well as the house that your spouses Sun sits in. So, using the Lilith example above, a man or woman could end up marrying someone with a Sun sign in the 2nd house that would also be affiliated with the opposite of the Lilith sign. Hopefully that makes sense. It doesn't have to be exact but they just might show up in some shape or form, sometimes it is represented in the houses too. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 4940 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 24, 2020 08:40 PM
Now that I think of it my dad has Cancer moon and Venus Sagittarius. My mom has neither Cancer or Sagittarius in her chart.My sister's husband has Cancer moon and Venus Pisces. I don't think she has either in her chart. Where was Jupiter in 1986? IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 3006 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted May 25, 2020 03:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: Now that I think of it my dad has Cancer moon and Venus Sagittarius. My mom has neither Cancer or Sagittarius in her chart.My sister's husband has Cancer moon and Venus Pisces. I don't think she has either in her chart. Where was Jupiter in 1986?
How about the houses, e.g. planets in 4H/9H to match the Cancer/Sag traits? IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2549 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted May 25, 2020 07:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by ParallelToucan: I can't remember when, where, or how but I'm pretty sure an interesting study was done with married couples in relation to their Lilith placements.It was found that a majority of the couples spouses had their Lilith signs or opposite Lilith within their spouses Sun signs. I know that sounds confusing too. I'll use an example to make more sense of it. It also applies to the house that your Lilith sits in as well. So for example, if you have your Lilith in Scorpio in the 3rd house; you could end up marrying a Scorpio, Gemini, Sagittarius, or Taurus Sun sign affiliation. It could be any combinations with either the Sun or the house that the Sun sits in. The idea is that Lilith and its house will show up in some shape or form (whether opposite or not) in your spouses Sun sign as well as the house that your spouses Sun sits in. So, using the Lilith example above, a man or woman could end up marrying someone with a Sun sign in the 2nd house that would also be affiliated with the opposite of the Lilith sign. Hopefully that makes sense. It doesn't have to be exact but they just might show up in some shape or form, sometimes it is represented in the houses too.
This is very interesting, I need to investigate it! In regard to the OP, I think a lot of men marry their MC and DC signs too.
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posted May 25, 2020 08:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: This is very interesting, I need to investigate it!In regard to the OP, I think a lot of men marry their MC and DC signs too.
Yeah maybe it was Juno. It could have been Juno. I honestly can't remember which placement it was but I know it was one of the "special" celestial bodies. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 4940 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 25, 2020 11:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: How about the houses, e.g. planets in 4H/9H to match the Cancer/Sag traits?
My sister's moon is in the 4th house and her husband has Cancer moon (I don't know her husband's rising) I forgot my parents exact birth time, but I do know that my mom is a Gemini rising and my dad is a Sagittarius rising. So my mom's moon is either in the 8th or 9th house. And my dad's moon is likely in the 8th house. My mom's Venus is very likely in the 4th which would make that cancer moon connection and my dad's venus is very likely in the first house IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 4940 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 25, 2020 11:38 AM
I didn't know my fiance's birth time for a while, and I have been having fun looking into his houses. He has Gemini moon, and I'm Gemini rising. His Venus is in Virgo, I have nothing there. But his Venus is in the 12th house and I'm a Venus Pisces. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2549 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted May 25, 2020 12:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by ParallelToucan: Yeah maybe it was Juno. It could have been Juno. I honestly can't remember which placement it was but I know it was one of the "special" celestial bodies.
Juno would make a lot of sense. But Lilith isn't too farfetched either, specifically in love marriages I think. Thanks anyways for sharing! IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 3860 From: Oceanic Sands Registered: Nov 2016
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posted May 25, 2020 12:48 PM
My husband married his Saturn if anything. My Venus is (1) cnj his Saturn. H3&2I have read that the energies in synastry that hit the 2nd person's 12 house is usually a strong connection. When testing it out in various charts it seems true for me. My hubby has his Dna asteroid in my 12th, no other stronger energies though; however my Neptune hits his 12th. This makes perfect sense in how he was drawn to me, the Neptune qualities I bring to his twelfth. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5446 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 25, 2020 01:09 PM
This is subjective everyone is not the same. IP: Logged |
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posted May 25, 2020 02:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: Juno would make a lot of sense. But Lilith isn't too farfetched either, specifically in love marriages I think. Thanks anyways for sharing!
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 767 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 25, 2020 06:24 PM
A combination. For example, somebody’s first wife was his Juno, but the second - matched the right houses. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 3006 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted May 26, 2020 06:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: My sister's moon is in the 4th house and her husband has Cancer moon (I don't know her husband's rising)
That's a match! quote: He has Gemini moon, and I'm Gemini rising. His Venus is in Virgo, I have nothing there. But his Venus is in the 12th house and I'm a Venus Pisces.
IMO this counts as a match too. I see some couples don't match in signs as well. Take myself for e.g... My bf has Moon in Libra 11H, Venus in Leo 9H. I have Sun in Taurus 12H, Mars in Pisces 10H. According to signs we don't match each other at all. But... I've a 7H Sagittarius Moon, matching his Libra and 9H. My 11H Jupiter also matches his 11H. He has strong Neptune (closely conjunct ASC, aspecting Sun-Moon-Mercury-Venus) so I guess that matches the Piscean/Neptune traits I seek. He also has 10H Sun/Mercury + Venus-Saturn conjunction conjunct MC from the 9H, so that relates to my 10H Mars.
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Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 3006 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted May 26, 2020 06:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: A combination. For example, somebody’s first wife was his Juno, but the second - matched the right houses.
It'll be interesting to study the charts of those who have married more than once. Are you referring to just Juno or Moon/Venus as well? I wonder if it's the same for women? My friend has Sun in Aries 12H, Mars in Gemini 2H, Juno in Libra 6H. Her ex-husband has 12H Sun, 2H Mars with Moon in Libra. Her current boyfriend also has a 12H Sun, 2H Mars (amazing!), 1H Moon matching her Aries traits... but nothing to match her Juno. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 767 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 26, 2020 11:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: It'll be interesting to study the charts of those who have married more than once. Are you referring to just Juno or Moon/Venus as well?I wonder if it's the same for women? My friend has Sun in Aries 12H, Mars in Gemini 2H, Juno in Libra 6H. Her ex-husband has 12H Sun, 2H Mars with Moon in Libra. Her current boyfriend also has a 12H Sun, 2H Mars (amazing!), 1H Moon matching her Aries traits... but nothing to match her Juno.
She matched his Juno and Venus, but his Venus didn’t have any conjunctions with her. And his moon was on her SN, her Venus - his SN. Otherwise, their moons have connections only with each other Saturn and Chiron.The second wife has traits of his placements, but matches mostly houses, no Juno. I have 12 house placements and all long-term people around me have 12 house placements. edit:I think Juno - mostly what kind of people you attract. My Juno/ Pluto/ Mercury attracts a lot of Mercury -Pluto people. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 3006 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted May 27, 2020 03:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: edit:I think Juno - mostly what kind of people you attract. My Juno/ Pluto/ Mercury attracts a lot of Mercury -Pluto people.
I've Taurus Juno in 12H. None of my exes and current has Taurus personal planets, but they're all Neptune-strong. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 767 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 27, 2020 04:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: I've Taurus Juno in 12H. None of my exes and current has Taurus personal planets, but they're all Neptune-strong.
My Juno house matches my 7th house ruler so it’s hard to say. Maybe, because yours is in 12 house and/or not aspected well, the influence is not so obvious. My friend has Juno conj moon, and I always thought she needed more a baby than a man. So I think Juno might be generally about close relationship or what you’re looking for, not necessary marriage. IP: Logged |
viviette Knowflake Posts: 275 From: FR Registered: Feb 2018
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posted May 30, 2020 08:24 AM
What if a guy has Moon in Cappy and the girl has DC Cappy ?Would they be on the same wavelength as a couple ? Would she act how he would expect because her vision for the partnership is the same as his Moon / emotions ? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17282 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 30, 2020 09:54 AM
My dad didn't marry either one, unless my mother had a Taurus ascendant. His second wife - she didn't fit his moon or venus, either. *edit. I've just seen my own old post here. IP: Logged |
Seline Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Registered: Aug 2017
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posted May 30, 2020 12:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by viviette: What if a guy has Moon in Cappy and the girl has DC Cappy ?Would they be on the same wavelength as a couple ? Would she act how he would expect because her vision for the partnership is the same as his Moon / emotions ?
Yes, and no. It could generate a great fondness and understanding, or just curiosity, but it doesn't have to lead to relationship (also, his mother might like you a bit too much). I have it with one of my closest friends. His Cap Moon in my 7th conj both my Venus & Neptune and opposing my Moon. My Sun in his 7th, his Sun on my Mars and his Venus on my NN, Sun/Sun, Sun/Moon connections, nice overlays, rulers engaged, etc. Theoretically, it's enough to start a relationship, at least. Marriage would be still possible. We find each other attractive, too. But, we don't see each other as potential romantic partners, but as "partners in crime - no questions asked" friends, absolutely. We didn't happen as a couple simply because we don't fit into each others natal chart story. Back to original question - they marry both? I’ve been told that man's Venus is his preferred type, all possible girlfriends/relationship scenarios depending on aspects that Venus makes, AND his wife before marriage (her background, job, habits, etc). The Moon is girlfriend's behavior and fate once she gets married. And vice versa, same applies to woman's Mars and Sun. But, what is most important is the natal chart itself and the symbolism it carries (when it comes to life partner). You can have the best synastry/comp in the world and zero worth relationship, or the absolute astrological catastrophe and the life time of love and adoration. Obviously, I oversimplified things. There are happy and less happy mediums and few other things to consider. The point is that for the best possible outcome, a woman’s natal chart should match the symbolism of a man’s Venus/Moon, and his chart hers Mars/Sun. This proved to be true in the marriage of my parents (most obvious example - Mom's 8th H Sun/Jupiter/Mercury conjunction - Father is Scorpio Sun, Sag rising, younger then her), grandparents, my brother, and definitely in my marriage. We're all over each others charts. Also, my husband has been married once before. While the starting point was the same - Venus (he obviously has the type), the Moon played out so differently in both marriages, but still within its full symbolism.
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hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted May 30, 2020 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by ParallelToucan: Yeah maybe it was Juno. It could have been Juno. I honestly can't remember which placement it was but I know it was one of the "special" celestial bodies.
Hmmm.. My husband's Juno conjunct my Venus, and my Juno square his sun. Both our Juno is in Pisces. He isn't my type actually and I don't know if I am his type as he seems doesn't have a type because among his exes I am the prettiest and has younger look, also very different (that's why I said before that he might only fall for my look). His close friends once revealed, when he hid in to his friend's house, that he was mad in love with me but was insecure because I was so pretty and had everything he attracted for. It was hard to believe because his actions said the opposite. Until now. Not sure if Lilith plays a part of the attraction. It looks like better describe within self than looking for it in another person. imo. And I just realize, his venus is unaspected in his synastry with his longtime ex. Based on my personal experience in a long-term relationship, a more than 5 years relationship, moon plays important part to feel satisfied in a relationship. Venus is more like to keep attraction alive. Juno is still a mysterious for me, because I am a woman who do not really think it is what I am looking for in a man and don't know how man feels about it. I think Man and Woman want to feel understood in a long-term relationship, and the moon to the sun helps a little bit more. IP: Logged |
Seline Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Registered: Aug 2017
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posted May 30, 2020 02:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by hearttreasure: Hmmm.. My husband's Juno conjunct my Venus, and my Juno square his sun. Both our Juno is in Pisces.
Just having them in the same sign is enough. You have the same approach to marriage. The rest is bonus. My husbands Juno is in Gemini and mine is in Capricorn, but we can definitely relate to each others Juno. My interest, professional and academic aspirations are all Gemini like. His final resting place will most definitely be under his office table. Plus, we have Junos in contra parallel, Juno/Jupiter and Juno/Sun, but (in my opinion) the progressed Juno was of greater importance. The day we became official, his progressed Juno was exactly on my Moon (my chart ruler). My progressed Juno opposed exactly his Moon/Mercury (Mercury being his DC and Juno ruler). My progressed Moon was exactly on his natal Sun. His progressed Moon exactly on my Sun's ruler in Sag (this is important, I'm foreigner). My AC had just progressed to Leo (he's Leo) and his AC was already progressed to Aqua (I'm Aqua). Both in conj under 1 degree. He definitely saw me as marriage material that day. So, I always check Juno progressions and transits, especially when it's not entirely clear to me why the two people got into a relationship at all.
quote: Originally posted by hearttreasure: Not sure if Lilith plays a part of the attraction.
It does. Trust me. It does.
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