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Faith
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posted December 14, 2016 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
Soren: *Posts a topic*

Randall: This topic is too advanced for this section. Moving to advanced astrology!

Soren: Well I'm sure I was good but didn't know I was that great


I'm all for an Advanced Forum so long as it doesn't limit the right of individuals in other forums to provide corrections.

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posted December 14, 2016 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
Soren: *Posts a topic*

Randall: This topic is too advanced for this section. Moving to advanced astrology!

Soren: Well I'm sure I was good but didn't know I was that great


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posted December 14, 2016 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Randall. What about the posting of inaccurate astrological data (articles based on inaccurate famous charts)? And their correction when errors are noted? I believe at no level of astrology, advanced or beginner, can this happen, since it will create a precedent.

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posted December 14, 2016 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

It's a good note, but as Ami had mentioned, she is fine with being corrected, it might be a continuous process, might have to correct her a couple more times, but that is fine. I do not think she would deliberately do it many times. We go along side and correct on the way, and this was the first time it happened anyway

i think our words would stop her from doing it, readers feedback

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posted December 14, 2016 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the issue.

We have a moderator who is in the habit of posting false information and who, when corrected, gets belligerent and starts gaslighting the person who corrected her.

It can't be construed as a mere error when the person deliberately lays out errors as bait and then flies off the handle with personal insults or insinuations at anyone who offers corrections, as we see currently happening here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236945.html

Voix kindly pointed out an error. Ami did not correct the error but said to Voix:

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Well, Voix
I am a sensitive person. I try to take constructive criticism but if people are gonna come at me as a witch hunt, they are gonna see my strength and I will fight back. It is all how you approach things, my Friend.

Implying Voix was engaged in a witch hunt.

That is gaslighting, if I'm not mistaken.

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posted December 14, 2016 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mistakes happen, and certainly it's okay to respectfully correct technical inaccuracies when found.

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posted December 14, 2016 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
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"I come from a long line of avoiders. My dad was an avoider. And his dad before him. It's been passed down for generations (though we've tried to avoid it). We've made it an art in my family. We have avoider competitions at all holiday get-togethers and family gatherings. At our last family reunion, no one showed up--not even me--and I was the one who put it together. I've avoided my wedding and my funeral my whole life!"


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posted December 14, 2016 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
Leeloo,

It's a good note, but as Ami had mentioned, she is fine with being corrected, it might be a continuous process, might have to correct her a couple more times, but that is fine. I do not think she would deliberately do it many times. We go along side and correct on the way, and this was the first time it happened anyway

i think our words would stop her from doing it, readers feedback


She mentioned just a few days ago that I had corrected her about an asteroid spelling, and then she posted a new article with the same incorrect spelling. Not deliberate? Really...

And then after Voix corrected her, she did not correct the spelling. I corrected her. Several others talked about how it is misspelled. It's STILL misspelled at this moment. And she is still talking about all the abuse she puts up with.

None of this is deliberate, you don't think?

You yourself said on that thread:

quote:
Originally posted by soren:
Yes I'm sure you say your honest ideas,

but also you are not honest because you deny the true asteroid name Blewett and call it what you want it to be, Blewit

If you were honest you would at least say the true name, but that it can also be in your ideas the exact same as Blewit, That would be honesty. Unless you just forget the true name all the time


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posted December 14, 2016 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
Leeloo,

It's a good note, but as Ami had mentioned, she is fine with being corrected, it might be a continuous process, might have to correct her a couple more times, but that is fine. I do not think she would deliberately do it many times. We go along side and correct on the way, and this was the first time it happened anyway

i think our words would stop her from doing it, readers feedback


I am not talking about a person, I am talking about a general rule of wanting accurate astrological data to be disseminated here and errors to be corrected in this respect when they happen.

All astrological act starts with consulting the stars and discussing what is there.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I am not talking about a person, I am talking about a general rule of wanting accurate astrological data to be disseminated here and errors to be corrected in this respect when they happen.

All astrological act starts with consulting the stars and discussing what is there.


Keepin' it pure.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Ami did not say voix was in a witch hunt, merely describing TO voix she doesnt like to be targeted like that

2) im pretty sure most people are pretty accurate, and if they werent we'd find out quick enough and voice our opinion, half the process that goes on for a lot of us probably is discerning if the thing someone is saying is true or not, which is how electro picked out he did not think adam sandler was a scorp asc (but until there is a birth time its up in the air, of course)

3) you are talking about a week old ami who never got as major problems as this.

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Faith
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posted December 14, 2016 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Mistakes happen, and certainly it's okay to respectfully correct technical inaccuracies when found.

But I did that.

I said to Ami "Accuracy would be nice" and provided corrections. That's all I said. Her response was to say I have low intelligence:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236869.html

On this thread, I asked "How hard is it to check?" when ALL examples in the article were wrong. That is all I said. "How hard is it to check?" Is that really such a hostile comment, as I've been accused of making, time and again on this thread?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236910.html

She says I was not NICE but what exactly does she want?

"Accuracy would be nice."
"How hard is it to check?"

I thought they were bland comments, all things considered.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
1) Ami did not say voix was in a witch hunt, merely describing TO voix she doesnt like to be targeted like that

I said there were insinuations. Why even bring up the witch hunt? What is she even talking about? Why couldn't she just say "Thanks Voix, my bad" and make the correction like a normal person?

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posted December 14, 2016 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Faith to me:

You provoke a lot of people to the point of wanting to throw up, she{Enneline} is just bold enough to give it full expression.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
From Faith to me:


You provoke a lot of people to the point of wanting to throw up, she{Enneline} is just bold enough to give it full expression.


You threatened to have her banned.

And it's true, you do provoke people that far.

Why not work on stopping that?

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posted December 14, 2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Faith

You're a Christian. How do you feel when you lie to smear people to cover for yourself?

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posted December 14, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's really distressing to see Ami when she is in a downward spiral and upward spiral at once. Splitting in two.

From a human standpoint and as one whose sister is bipolar, she gets my compassion and a sincere wish that she will seek help.

From a forum standpoint, the issue is constantly crying out for help, like a spoiled child who demands everyone's attention all the time. And it drives people away from a site that would otherwise be a great resource to astrologers.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those three comments were from one SINGLE day, Randall. This has been going on for well over a year and I have been ignoring but she keeps escalating.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ami did not truly threatened to have enneline banned, it was more of a mock because you got someone banned that ami liked, so ami copied what you said "sending to randall" , but i do not think it was serious

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posted December 14, 2016 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I could show all the times you insulted me, and the full context of my comments, I think people would see them in a more informed light.

I think it's wrong to quote people out of context as you do, that's why I always supply links and let people decide for themselves what was going on.

Randall, I hope you will look at the links I gave, and study the discussion, and moderate as you see fit.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
ami did not truly threatened to have enneline banned, it was more of a mock because you got someone banned that ami liked, so ami copied what you said "sending to randall" , but i do not think it was serious


Are you implying I should have known Ami was lying?

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posted December 14, 2016 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there was nothing that bad going on in either of your quotes, maybe you two take it overly serious cause they are directed at you, but to me they arent that serious, merely a heated debate.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i could tell she was joking, but that's just me

Eta: if you couldnt tell she was joking, then i could see why youd be mad. that might be the bigger problem then just the problem with eachothers words, but not understanding each other's characters.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Those three comments were from one [b]SINGLE day, Randall. This has been going on for well over a year and I have been ignoring but she keeps escalating.[/B]

I hope Randall will look at this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236910.html

And see how many people believe you.

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posted December 14, 2016 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, but Ami... You called Faith a coward, said she was of low standards and a plethora of other insults that I won't be bothered to quote here.

Numerous times, in quite a number of threads.

I am not trying to put you on trial, just pointing out that insults are not a one-way street here, and I don't recall Faith ever flat-out calling you names.

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