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posted January 02, 2017 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But still to the point where everyone seems to notice you, and you really do make an impression on other people.... just never in a good way ??

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posted January 02, 2017 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pholus or Eris conj the Ascendant, MC or NN lol

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posted January 02, 2017 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron conjunct the Ascendant is one too. I heard it attracts bullying.

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posted January 02, 2017 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pholus or Eris conj the Ascendant, MC or NN lol


what about other stuff than asteroids?

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posted January 02, 2017 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pholus or Eris conj the Ascendant, MC or NN lol


i suppose you did a diligent reseach, didn't you?

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posted January 02, 2017 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Chiron conjunct the Ascendant is one too. I heard it attracts bullying.

Bullying is different than hatred, I think, anyway, SA.

Hatred can come from being very annoying and bugging, lol.

Bullying is from weak cowards who want to hurt others whom they view as easy prey.

That is my opinion, anyway, SA.

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posted January 02, 2017 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Chiron conjunct the Ascendant is one too. I heard it attracts bullying.

I have this aspect, almost exact.... it's a really though one, I admit. But I see asteroids as weaker than planets, aspects and house positions.
I also got jupiter conjunct the ascendant, which is supposed to give a positive wibe, kinda the opposite than a negative?

What about pluto or scorpio placements/aspects, would they do?

My scorpio venus is conjunct my scorpio pluto in 5th house (9 degrees wide though) but apart from that, they only receive sextiles or trines. The 5th house is the opposite one than the 11th though, which is said to bring good wibes among friends and could even lead to fame, am I right?

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posted January 02, 2017 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroids have to be really close cuz they don't have the same energetic power as planets, N. You are very correct in that!
Jupiter conj the ASC could mitigate the Chiron's effect.

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posted January 02, 2017 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
chiron on the asc is not necessarily a victim of bullying or being unpopular.
Actually, a woman i know is very popular and she has chiron on asc, however she is a healer.

Chiron on an angle is typical for healers and doctors.

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posted January 02, 2017 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Asteroids have to be really close cuz they don't have the same energetic power as planets, N. You are very correct in that!
Jupiter conj the ASC could mitigate the Chiron's effect.


Yes true, my chiron conjunct the ascendant is almost exact though:P And jupiter conjunct ascendant is probably not, as it is around 8-9 degrees... but jupiter also conjuncts chiron thank god

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posted January 02, 2017 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hatred is an extreme form of emotion. I think that hatred for someone/something that is just annoying is quite shallow. Hatred would usually be a response to something that's extreme. An example would be if you say had a deep attachment to your father and someone murdered him, then I could see hatred in that. Hatred for simple things is wasted energy.

Chiron conjunct the Ascendant wouldn't make someone hated. They could be a victim of bullying, but the case would have to be in which Chiron was strong and very afflicted. I say this knowing people with first house Chirons that weren't bullied. One of them can be quite polarizing, but she is a Scorpio Ascendant.

I have a tight Pholus conjunction to my Ascendant and Mars, and I'm not unpopular. I'm sure there are people out there that hate me, but I don't really care. Often my Venus-ASC trine makes me come off quite nicely, but I can easily change the mood if need be.

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posted January 02, 2017 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pholus or Eris conj the Ascendant, MC or NN lol


i am sure you again did no research

one very unpopular woman i know has pluto conj mc, saturn on asc and venus inconj. asc. The hunger for power and uncharming appearance & behaviour makes her most unpopular

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posted January 02, 2017 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know some unpopular people and what they have in common:

Pluto or Mars or Saturn either conj MC or Asc or even in the 10h. If there are no real strong aspects to cancel those placements out, you can be sure that the person is unpopular every now and then

one unpopular girl - with other girls - i know has Uranus rising before the asc, and her moon squares mars. Uranus ill-aspected on the asc can make someone come across as awkward and the moon with hard aspects to Mars can point to problems with other women

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I know someone like this. Taurus Sun, Cancer Moon. Good looking and very fake-nice. He gets noticed but is very disliked by others because he is selfish as all hell. He has also no intentions of bettering himself when called on his bs besides blaming others and/or belittling them :-/
He's the type that would buy 1 pound of chocolate and not ask ANYONE at the party if they'd like some..He'd literally eat it all himself.

Don't know the rest of his chart.

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posted January 02, 2017 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing about Chiron conj the ASC and bullying is that it has to be a close orb exact to 4(tops)

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posted January 02, 2017 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The thing about Chiron conj the ASC and bullying is that it has to be a close orb exact to 4(tops)


So Linda Goodman was bullied?

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posted January 02, 2017 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think hard asteroids to the Moon would do it, too like Sado.

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posted January 02, 2017 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto conjunct the Ascendant??

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posted January 02, 2017 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 02, 2017 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No
S. These people are usually amazing leaders

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posted January 02, 2017 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ami,

but they can still be hated, yes?

People either love them, or hate them. This can make some of them unpopular.

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posted January 02, 2017 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Ami,

but they can still be hated, yes?

People either love them, or hate them. This can make some of them unpopular.


Well, my experience with them is that they appear very strong and really are natural leaders, so prolly people will like or not like them, due to that is the usual reaction to a leader lol

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posted January 02, 2017 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG

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posted January 02, 2017 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
i suppose you did a diligent reseach, didn't you?

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posted January 02, 2017 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am quite devisive, it's a good job I'm a hunky beast! 😁

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