posted January 31, 2020 11:45 AM            

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My stupid naive Libra moon was like “Oh, we’re playing something here, It could be fun!” Later, I got knives flying in me. It turned to be a war, not a nice fun little game. I had no idea.
And we didn’t even date, barely knew each other! I never understood the reasons. I think I just reminded him somebody, that’s it.

posted January 31, 2020 12:18 PM            

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Originally posted by cultstatus:
Can you please explain this opinion?

I am in a relationship with a Scorpio moon whose Saturn return has just begun.

I have lots of air!

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posted January 31, 2020 01:29 PM              

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Originally posted by Librapurr:

Yes! Especially, If games started.
So obsessed about their own feelings so don’t understand the other people aren’t just objects of their emotions. Double standards. Whatever is okay for them, not okay for you. They can play games, but don’t you dare to do the same!
I overestimated myself when I thought I can keep up with Scorpio moon/Venus.

My stupid naive Libra moon was like “Oh, we’re playing something here, It could be fun!” Later, I got knives flying in me. It turned to be a war, not a nice fun little game. I had no idea.
And we didn’t even date, barely knew each other! I never understood the reasons. I think I just reminded him somebody, that’s it.

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Hmmm, sadly the above seems to fit and resonate some with the person I care about and who has Scorpio Moon closely conjunct Pluto.

There was an extreme self focusedness there (not helped by the Aries Sun, very strong and stressed Uranus, strong Taurus, Mercury, moderate Leo, and Venus Saturn conjunction), that was and is very hard for me to deal with as someone with a lot of focus on others, givingness, BALANCE, etc.

What particularly is upsetting for me, is that I know that underneath all that personality/ego/shadow stuff, that she is a rather old Soul. I was trying to nurture, foster, and bring that side of her out more. A lot of the masks and shadow stuff is because of deep wounding and/or pain that she has experienced from others in this and another life.

Ironically, the moment I got really real and honest with her, is the moment that she completely cut me off in a cold way, but then followed up with a "it's not that I don't like you Justin but.." After saying that she was coming to feel depleted and abused by our connection.

So my crime of abuse was to have written her this after experiencing repeat lapses in communication and lack of general reciprocity, "there is a part of self that thinks that the best thing for me, would be to completely detach from this situation (because this connection is at times painful and bittersweet for me) YET I know that we met and are in each others lives for a deeper reason/purpose." Meaning, I'm hurting here because of your actions, but am still trying, and ultimately believe in this/us.

Besides the inconsiderate communication pattern, I was also being kept as side option. This all despite her telling me things like, "I want you in my life on every level..", "I'm so grateful for you in my life", etc

I personally cannot understand someone cutting someone so completely and coldly out of your life, after previously and not long before telling this person how much you care for, appreciate them, simply because they finally got frustrated enough with your immature and inconsiderate behaviors to say something about it. Such extremism totally baffles me.

I can only chalk it up to having WAY too much self focus and over self sensitivity/super fragile ego. It truly boggles my mind. I would never even think to treat people like that if they are being sincere and coming from their hearts (even if a little ego is involved). I might disagree with you or the like, but completely cut you off?

P.S., I'm not saying that every person with Scorpio Moon closely conjunct Pluto is like this. As mentioned, she has other clear and repeating patterns of strong, over self focus.

posted January 31, 2020 04:43 PM            

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There was an extreme self focusedness there (not helped by the Aries Sun, very strong and stressed Uranus, strong Taurus, Mercury, moderate Leo, and Venus Saturn conjunction), that was and is very hard for me to deal with as someone with a lot of focus on others, givingness, BALANCE, etc.

What particularly is upsetting for me, is that I know that underneath all that personality/ego/shadow stuff, that she is a rather old Soul. I was trying to nurture, foster, and bring that side of her out more. A lot of the masks and shadow stuff is because of deep wounding and/or pain that she has experienced from others in this and another life.

Ironically, the moment I got really real and honest with her, is the moment that she completely cut me off in a cold way, but then followed up with a "it's not that I don't like you Justin but.." After saying that she was coming to feel depleted and abused by our connection.

So my crime of abuse was to have written her this after experiencing repeat lapses in communication and lack of general reciprocity, "there is a part of self that thinks that the best thing for me, would be to completely detach from this situation (because this connection is at times painful and bittersweet for me) YET I know that we met and are in each others lives for a deeper reason/purpose." Meaning, I'm hurting here because of your actions, but am still trying, and ultimately believe in this/us.

Besides the inconsiderate communication pattern, I was also being kept as side option. This all despite her telling me things like, "I want you in my life on every level..", "I'm so grateful for you in my life", etc

I personally cannot understand someone cutting someone so completely and coldly out of your life, after previously and not long before telling this person how much you care for, appreciate them, simply because they finally got frustrated enough with your immature and inconsiderate behaviors to say something about it. Such extremism totally baffles me.

I can only chalk it up to having WAY too much self focus and over self sensitivity/super fragile ego. It truly boggles my mind. I would never even think to treat people like that if they are being sincere and coming from their hearts (even if a little ego is involved). I might disagree with you or the like, but completely cut you off?

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posted January 31, 2020 06:32 PM            

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Originally posted by cultstatus:
Hmmmmm I have not had this experience with my partner’s Scorpio moon.

He’s incredibly articulate with his emotions, and has basically vocalised his undying love and commitment to me and everyone we know daily.

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posted January 31, 2020 10:38 PM              

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Originally posted by Nine:
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Yes! Especially, If games started.
So obsessed about their own feelings so don’t understand the other people aren’t just objects of their emotions. Double standards. Whatever is okay for them, not okay for you. They can play games, but don’t you dare to do the same!
I overestimated myself when I thought I can keep up with Scorpio moon/Venus.

My stupid naive Libra moon was like “Oh, we’re playing something here, It could be fun!” Later, I got knives flying in me. It turned to be a war, not a nice fun little game. I had no idea.
And we didn’t even date, barely knew each other! I never understood the reasons. I think I just reminded him somebody, that’s it.

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OOF. damn, you nailed it on the head. i f*ckin hate those qualities of theirs. but i must love something about them since i've gotten close to so many and was raised by them....

and hey! i don't do that as a scorp venus maybe because of all my sag / aries / leo stuff . or i'm just such a mature scorp venus

posted January 31, 2020 10:39 PM              

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For me as Libra, cold cut off is one of the worst thing; especially, if somebody’s trying to reach out.

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I hear yah, and Libra Moon here with fairly strong Venus also. (7th, in wide opposition aspect to ASC point). I could see reason for it if someone is truly toxic, abusive, manipulative, etc, but while I was definitely being too over attached and perhaps a bit over needy with her, I wasn't being abusive in the slight. I just want people's actions to match their words to me. Having such strong Jupiter, I have this thing about sincerity, honesty, and openness.

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..The guy couldn’t communicate even to save his life. No way he could get his work position without some Scorpio witchcraft involved.

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Now I think Aries outbursts might be much better than Scorpio cold behind your back shenanigans and cutting off. Two in one is only in nightmares.

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Haha, I'm glad you have kept your sense of humor despite of all the b.s. you went through.

From what I can tell at this forum, you seem like a pretty cool person, and I think any guy should count themselves fortunate to have your interest and affection.

If it's in your highest, long term good, I hope you find someone a lot more mature and balanced, that can actually be vulnerable and give of their heart, and not just their ego/lower emotions and intellect.

posted January 31, 2020 10:55 PM            

But all in all she was so fascinating, like a dream, hehh..

Its strange for me you know, coz before I met her I used to get over chicks in days(there were some special "exceptions" too ofcourse ) ...

But this one was like Wooow!....and Noooo F*ck you!!

Funny thing though the day I found out about the break-up, lets put that found out between double quotations and add extraaa exclamation marks..
anyway where was I ? Yeah I was listening to "Love the way you lie"... and I think the song would sum up the intensity of the relationship for me in a way...to some extent

posted January 31, 2020 11:16 PM              

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Honestly though, it pained like a m*therfucker .. .

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If I could hug your past self, I would.

posted February 01, 2020 04:25 AM            

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I can only chalk it up to having WAY too much self focus and over self sensitivity/super fragile ego. It truly boggles my mind. I would never even think to treat people like that if they are being sincere and coming from their hearts (even if a little ego is involved). I might disagree with you or the like, but completely cut you off?

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Wasn't she still quite young? I can't remember. I can relate to what you've written about her - expressing her gratitude, but being inconsistent. That usually happens when I don't really trust the other person, or feel inadequate in some way - or feel that they are going to say something just as you did to her. Social anxiety plays a part. I mentioned something in another thread, about what a Cappy woman said to me. She went on a few weeks later, to absolutely blast me, so I finally blasted her right back, and we haven't spoken since. I rarely cut anyone out of my life, and she wasn't a romantic partner - she was an older woman, who thought she knew more than she did (I'm not saying that's true of you, this is just my experience with this woman). I didn't cut her off, it was a mutual thing.

A couple of years ago, when I was in a really bad way, a friend kindly said to me, "I'm going to need some kind of response..." with a bit more in addition to that, and I just cried, and responded, "I'm sorry to be a disappointment" and that I just couldn't do what was hoped and expected of me at the time. I was barely holding myself together, and I told her why. She was very understanding, and we're still friends. I worry about letting other people down, and I used to never want to be a bother, so I'd be careful about what I said. Wouldn't talk about anything stressful, so as not to burden anyone else with my stuff. I watched my mother be there for everyone, so I didn't want to be a bother to her (although she said, "Please talk to me, if you need to!") '

posted February 01, 2020 08:40 AM            

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If I could hug your past self, I would.

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posted February 01, 2020 12:15 PM              

We had a mini, very brief split before the main one, and then, after same, she actually apologized for being cold and cutting and said that sometimes she is just so overwhelmed by life and has a hard time handling it all.

I think this is fairly common for folks that like her and yourself have very strong Uranian attunement. There is almost like this constant tug of war between their metaphorical higher and lower selves, which with a lot of psychic sensitivity (much unconscious), certainly does make life difficult.

Contrary to mainstream astro hypotheses, Uranus and Uranians are actually very intensely feeling in nature. They do have the capacity to go cold and detach (icily so), but that is a defense mechanism/way of coping to deal with their intense emotional nature and deeper sensitivity.

This was also very apparent in another Uranian that I'm very familiar with, Edgar Cayce. He had a very intense emotional nature (Leo Rising, and Pisces Sun in the 8th didn't help), was very sensitive, and was bit of an extremist, yet his son Hugh Lynn was once quoted as saying something like, *I have never met anyone else besides my father that could be in the same room with you and yet be so completely absent/not there*. Like total detachment and tuned into some other level or part of their mind or heart, almost as if to escape the circumstances at that moment (or getting lost in an imaginative thought, feeling, intuition, etc).

This coming from the same son, who was also quoted as saying that he once got so angry at his father for hurting his mom's feelings (they were VERY close, and the Readings later outlined that Hugh Lynn and his Mother were Twin Souls), that as a child he spent the whole day looking for a rifle to shoot his dad.

Apparently though I tend to be rather attracted to you Uranian types (especially those also with strong Venus) since my Venus is not only in Aquarius with also Aqua DESC, but somewhat closely square Angular Scorp Uranus. I think that (Scorp background of Uranus) combined with the extremely close trine from Pluto to Venus indicates there is a moderate attraction to those with moderate to strong Scorp and/or Pluto as well.

posted February 01, 2020 12:30 PM              

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lol, u can hug me right now, it would hug the whole past rofl

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Haha, technically true I suppose.

I'm still working on that whole consciously manifesting physically in whatever space/time I want. Can't seem to do it yet, but had a very interesting experience that seems to suggest it might happen in the future.

I met and became friends (completely platonic--found out later she was my mom in another life) with a woman much older than myself on a spiritual oriented forum. One day, I decided to send her a pic of self for her to intuitively tune into.

When she got back to me, I didn't understand the message and the dramaticism behind it. She wrote someething like, *were you trying to give me a heart attack?!*

I wrote back, something like, *whaaa???*

She explained, a few years before we ever met/knew of each other, she was in deep meditation, when a man manifested physically in her room, gave her a brief telepathic message, smiled and then left. She said he looked extremely similar to me in the pic.

I told her, well I don't remember doing this, but maybe it's my probable future, or more Spirit attuned level of self. We had such a strong connection, that my partner and I flew out to the other side of the country to spend some time with her and her son for awhile (also were visiting family in that state).

Either way, odd account.

But watch out, one day I just may manifest in your room (or cave, wink) when you least expect it and give you a big ole bear hug, and leave while laughing my arse off. Bwhahahaahahaha.

posted February 01, 2020 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Haha, I'm glad you have kept your sense of humor despite of all the b.s. you went through.

From what I can tell at this forum, you seem like a pretty cool person, and I think any guy should count themselves fortunate to have your interest and affection.

If it's in your highest, long term good, I hope you find someone a lot more mature and balanced, that can actually be vulnerable and give of their heart, and not just their ego/lower emotions and intellect.

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I knew we probably couldn’t work together, but let him go was so painful. I’ve never known why. And there were a lot of mystery and signs.
The biggest mistake was I thought he was more balanced and mature because of Neptune fog. If I had known before what I know now, I’d behave differently.
Strangely, this “not real” relationship brought so many issues and effected me psychologically more than the real one.

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I hear yah, and Libra Moon here with fairly strong Venus also. (7th, in wide opposition aspect to ASC point). I could see reason for it if someone is truly toxic, abusive, manipulative, etc, but while I was definitely being too over attached and perhaps a bit over needy with her, I wasn't being abusive in the slight. I just want people's actions to match their words to me. Having such strong Jupiter, I have this thing about sincerity, honesty, and openness.

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posted February 01, 2020 03:53 PM            

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OOF. damn, you nailed it on the head. i f*ckin hate those qualities of theirs. but i must love something about them since i've gotten close to so many and was raised by them....

and hey! i don't do that as a scorp venus maybe because of all my sag / aries / leo stuff . or i'm just such a mature scorp venus

i love libra moons by the way. i can't imagine going through it with a scorp moon as a libra moon. as an aries moon. i'm just like, ok then, f*ck you! libra moons prob get so hurt like 'why can't you just be nice ' haha

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Lol. Yeah, can’t you just be nicer! I tried to communicate it to him, but fixed as hell, he took it as it’s another game. He just couldn’t see me correctly because of Neptune synastry. I don’t mind little games because Libra need some intellectual stimulation and my Scorpio Mercury gets excited. But not that hardcore and it should be some fairness.
“F you” and walking away, probably, was only the way. What I actually did in the end, but it should be done much earlier.

posted February 01, 2020 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Haha, technically true I suppose.

I'm still working on that whole consciously manifesting physically in whatever space/time I want. Can't seem to do it yet, but had a very interesting experience that seems to suggest it might happen in the future.

I met and became friends (completely platonic--found out later she was my mom in another life) with a woman much older than myself on a spiritual oriented forum. One day, I decided to send her a pic of self for her to intuitively tune into.

When she got back to me, I didn't understand the message and the dramaticism behind it. She wrote someething like, *were you trying to give me a heart attack?!*

I wrote back, something like, *whaaa???*

She explained, a few years before we ever met/knew of each other, she was in deep meditation, when a man manifested physically in her room, gave her a brief telepathic message, smiled and then left. She said he looked extremely similar to me in the pic.

I told her, well I don't remember doing this, but maybe it's my probable future, or more Spirit attuned level of self. We had such a strong connection, that my partner and I flew out to the other side of the country to spend some time with her and her son for awhile (also were visiting family in that state).

Either way, odd account.

But watch out, one day I just may manifest in your room (or cave, wink) when you least expect it and give you a big ole bear hug, and leave while laughing my arse off. Bwhahahaahahaha.

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posted February 01, 2020 09:21 PM            

Scorpio moons are extremely loyal friends by nature so they expect loyalty in return. They will have your back if they care for you. They expect you to have their backs too. If they find out you stabbed them in it instead- watch out. They wholeheartedly believe in revenge.

Personally- I really like scorpio moons. They tend to be pretty honest (to a detriment.) They are awesome to have on your side. They are the dark knight in shining black armour that will slay your enemies in the worst way. And they won't mind being called evil for it because in their minds they've got your back. Just don't try to trick them and make yourself unworthy because they will turn that darkness onto you. They feel deeply. When they get hurt they resort to anger and vindictiveness.

posted February 03, 2020 05:03 PM              

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Thank you. I very appreciate to be named the cool person from somebody with so much wisdom. Unfortunately, I become cool and smart about a situation much overdue after my Pluto and Neptune (and other different energies) contradictions settle down. With my Virgo Venus going backwards and forwards, our little power struggles - It was too complicated for him. It was something deep and Karmic. I just wanted to be somewhere nearby, but not too close. And I think he couldn’t see me as a friend.
And I had some personal issues, health problems. It was too much to deal with. I wish he could be more understanding and kind.
I knew we probably couldn’t work together, but let him go was so painful. I’ve never known why. And there were a lot of mystery and signs.
The biggest mistake was I thought he was more balanced and mature because of Neptune fog. If I had known before what I know now, I’d behave differently.
Strangely, this “not real” relationship brought so many issues and effected me psychologically more than the real one.

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You're welcome. Thank you as well. If self has any wisdom, it's not of me, but because I've made a habit and practice of going deep within and listening to those far wiser than myself.

Yeah, definitely sounds like it was a complicated and probably strong karmic situation. It's possible that you both had a very strong connection in some other experience or level.

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That’s when Libra moon defense mechanism - distance might be necessary. When you have different values and expectations, and a person doesn’t want to change and cannot hear you. You’re just getting hurt more and more. And the other person might learn her/his lessons only in several years when karma would come back. (Can’t run too far from my Pluto, the idea about Karmic lessons for somebody’s wrong doing to me make me feel better 😊 )
Edit: In this kind of situations, I think cut your losses is the best solution. Maybe, it’s narcissism. Something like they feed on your emotions, power they have. Once they had enough and sucked up everything they could from you, they cut you off. Maybe, it’s emotional vampirism. I only started to dig into this subject..

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Yeah, I agree, sometimes all you can do is to detach and let go. Several times I've made the intention to do this with her, and then I always experience some way above chance synchronciity, almost as if guidance is saying, "No, as much as part of you would like to let her go, don't fully".

It's interesting about the narcissism thing. I do think she has definite narcissistic tendencies above the average, but don't think she is a full blown narcissist. She's very Uranian in that she has a very fast vibratory, loving, spiritually aware/concerned, high ideals side, but at the same time she has a rather slow vibratory, selfish side, and she hasn't yet found her balance nor consciously integrated both.

I think she has the potential to grow beyond this, and become very Solar in nature. My spouse had a dream about her as seeing her go from this kind of ugly, mottled brown and black (slow vibratory) caterpillar, to eventually emerging as a hairy, white moth (very spiritual and fast vibratory symbol). But she has a lot of transformation to go through meanwhile before she becomes the latter. I really get the feeling that I helped to catalyze this process some. Partly by temporarily blasting open her heart center.

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Forgot, I have Taurus / Aries friend with Sun oppos. Pluto, Venus oppos. Saturn, and Uranus in 7th, Plutonic
She told me she is gonna block me not so far ago. I didn’t understand why, but I’ve known her for so many years. And there are some days when you just can’t say anything to her without getting in trouble.
So at this point, I’m like whatever. See you in several weeks. Sometimes I’m being patient and trying to explain her why it’s not right , and can get some apologies later. ( It seems like Scorpio Moon guy just gets scared and hides when he feels he could be confronted for his BS).
I know she needs these Uranian emotions, instability.
And she needs someone to have a strong grip on her. If you give her too much power, she’ll drag you down. You just cannot get her respect by being nice. When she was younger, it was a primary purpose of her relationships.
I get a lot of sweet stuff from her something like love confessions, "I'm so grateful for you in my life". And sometimes I’m like this doesn’t work on me, go use these tricks on your men (half joking, half truth).

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Hmm, does seem to be some parallels between your friend and my ex friend. Do you know if your friend experienced any painful trauma or abuse? Sometimes when people go through that, they build up walls around their hearts and close it down, and become enmeshed in ego, because it's easier and more comfortable than dealing with authentic feelings, or realizing painful truths about themselves, their lives, etc.

posted February 04, 2020 02:39 PM            

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Yeah, I agree, sometimes all you can do is to detach and let go. Several times I've made the intention to do this with her, and then I always experience some way above chance synchronciity, almost as if guidance is saying, "No, as much as part of you would like to let her go, don't fully".

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It's interesting about the narcissism thing. I do think she has definite narcissistic tendencies above the average, but don't think she is a full blown narcissist. She's very Uranian in that she has a very fast vibratory, loving, spiritually aware/concerned, high ideals side, but at the same time she has a rather slow vibratory, selfish side, and she hasn't yet found her balance nor consciously integrated both.

I think she has the potential to grow beyond this, and become very Solar in nature. My spouse had a dream about her as seeing her go from this kind of ugly, mottled brown and black (slow vibratory) caterpillar, to eventually emerging as a hairy, white moth (very spiritual and fast vibratory symbol). But she has a lot of transformation to go through meanwhile before she becomes the latter. I really get the feeling that I helped to catalyze this process some. Partly by temporarily blasting open her heart cent

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posted January 31, 2021 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
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I wish I saw this before I wasted a year of my life haha..

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posted February 02, 2021 01:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
For me as Libra, cold cut off is one of the worst thing; especially, if somebody’s trying to reach out.
I heard Scorpio moons are not good in communication.

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