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SecretGeek
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posted March 25, 2018 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"...This post is in reference to Neptune's Nessus on Neptune's Dejanira..."

I just didn't show the chart because you already mentioned it so I skipped to what it could mean for Neptune.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have neptune conjunct exact the galactic center squaring my sun opposite moon in pisces, according to a report Neptune is my a strongest planet, I have Neptune Karma and have Lived Neptune.

Neptune does want to serve and be a better version of themselves and help others be a better version of themselves (venus in virgo). Neptune can be a good social worker and therapist, helping out the dejanira's and Nessus' of the world while they also work on themselves.

BUT it also has a bunch of red flags that sets them up for making poor decisions when it comes to their own love life.

Neptunian's should choose careers were they can channel this need to serve and fix in a healthy useful way but their own love life tend to be complex bc of the nature of Neptune making them restless wanting to find this unobtainable perfection or ending up with partners they want to fix by loving them hard enough.

I have Lived Neptune in Terms of my career choices (social work,therapist) and in more ways you can imagine, I was part of the cannabis movement too, and in my romantic life as well, believe me on that. I have even experienced nessus/dejanira to some extent.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a nutshell neptune is the "higher octave" of Venus bc it puts in the native a strong desire to help humanity and is very accepting and understanding of people's flaws while also it wants to serve others to help them heal and be a better version of themselves, it teaches others to love themselves as they are while they work on themselves,this is true, in that sense yes neptune is the higher octave of venus....

...BUT when it comes down to their own love life they are not grounded or make the best decisions, it can even be self-destructive and a self-sabotaging energy in this regard.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting..My chart ruler PLUTO conjuncts exact Neptune's Northnode. I am so Neptunian.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@hypatia 238

An interesting chart there for Chiron.

My initial chart rectifier/ astrologer said that Chiron is the planet of true love.

So far, I can't say. Am still not well versed with Chiron.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am definitely seeing Chiron pop up in relations to Neptune in other people (Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Jesus, etc). I haven't decided to post my findings yet.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@hypatia 238

An interesting chart there for Chiron.

My initial chart rectifier/ astrologer said that Chiron is the planet of true love.

So far, I can't say. Am still not well versed with Chiron.


I feel just like you do! LOL

I don't know what to think of CHIRON LOL But your comment about cancer/moon got me looking at a bunch of discovery charts and when I saw chiron it made me look at it differently but I am still skeptical about chiron although now I am more open to it in a positive way for sure. I feel more curious about chiron now.

I want to share with you another thing since you are the one that inspired me to look at my discovery charts again seeking cancer placements.

Turns out Eros is VERY promising too, it has moon in cancer with wait for it!!!! Venus conjunct Jupiter in LIBRA and Mars conjunct Pluto, it has it all, everything you want in a romantic relationship, good sex and true love .

As for chiron in my own experience it has featured strongly more on composite charts, shrug. I am still skeptical with chiron but I am more convinced at least now lol.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I am definitely seeing Chiron pop up in relations to Neptune in other people (Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Jesus, etc). I haven't decided to post my findings yet.

Interesting, that makes a lot of sense, chiron has sun in Scorpio conjunct Uranus with moon in cancer conjunct Jupiter, very intuitive/psychic energy and Neptune is also very intuitive/psychic.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Interesting, that makes a lot of sense, chiron has sun in Scorpio conjunct Uranus with moon in cancer conjunct Jupiter, very intuitive/psychic energy and Neptune is also very intuitive/psychic.

Chiron's Neptune is in the 12th too.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW anybody has any thoughts on why we keep discovering planets when the moon is on Scorpio!

Neptune has moon in scorpio
Pluto has moon in scorpio
Uranus has moon in scorpio

So weird. What about some diversity?. This makes me want to pay more attention to asteroids in the context of synastry/composite; I recommend: Chiron, Eros, Juno, Psyche, Thisbe and Pyramus, valentine,agapenor. Honestly those three planets have a lot of similarities in their discovery charts.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Creation event is my guess. I bet the Moon and the Sun have Scorpio Moons also. All of them likely do.

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posted March 25, 2018 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Creation event is my guess. I bet the Moon and the Sun have Scorpio Moons also. All of them likely do.

Interesting theory truly

But is odd bc moon in scorpio is not at home or exalted and I can see why it is at fall there.

"The sign of the Scorpio is the most “uncomfortable” place for the Moon to be placed. It is like sitting on a volcano, and there are hidden passions waiting to erupt. Furthermore, there are unconscious contents buried very deep. The wounded part of the soul is a powerful psychological force to be reckoned with. It has been called the-monster-in-the-closet Lunar position. The Scorpion is deeply intense and so there is no problem with actual feeling. The main difficulties are repressions, blockages, obsessions, compulsions, and jealousies. The toxicity of such emotions can build up and have a negative impact on the health and drive the individual to addictive behavior." http://theastrologyplacemembership.com/2015/07/moon-in-fall-scorpio/

Its a tough placement. Honestly the fact that our generational planets that we put up in a pedestal have moon in Scorpio kind of worries me LOL.

I guess the universe really wants us to work through our issues LOL

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posted March 25, 2018 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just be careful what you publish before you apply for a patent.

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posted March 25, 2018 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo women are brilliant, especially if they have Merc in there. I might create another thread for that.

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posted March 25, 2018 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Virgo women are brilliant, especially if they have Merc in there. I might create another thread for that.

Awwww thanks, I have a friend who is a virgo but with mercury in libra and our minds are nothing alike. She is very shallow, likes to talk about pop culture, honestly I have a real hard time connecting with her at a deeper level bc of this. She talks and talks but she is talking about nothing. Add that my mercury rules the 8th and paralles my pluto and juno, my mercury also noviles my pluto.

Now my supervisor for my 2nd job (part time) is a virgo and I bet she has mercury in virgo bc her mind is sharp, I can definitely see she is very attentive to detail unlike my friend with merc in libra. My friend though is creative and likes the arts, she has moon in libra too with venus in virgo, different strengths.

BTW Ero's mercury is in virgo at 17 degrees conjunct my mercury in virgo at 17 degrees.

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posted March 25, 2018 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo Merc exalted (nice mind)
Virgo Venus fall (less selfish except my sons' are in Leo)

Sounds like my twins. I must be a good breeder. LOL

Very interesting on Eros' Merc. TY.

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posted March 25, 2018 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not understand the purpose of these threads.

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posted March 25, 2018 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Discovery charts is the birth of a planet astrologically speaking and gives us a deeper understanding of how the planet impacts us and the message it carries for us.

If you really want to understand a planet at its core you have to look at their discovery chart IMO, this is the purpose of these threads to get people to look at the discovery and gain a deeper understanding of that planet, discussions enhance and facilitate this process.

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posted March 25, 2018 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I do not understand the purpose of these threads.

Kick that aside for a bit.

Do you believe Venus influence can promote selfishness?

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posted March 25, 2018 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Well it's a planet of Beauty, has to be selfish no? And why are you condemning selfish-ness to such extent? I have seen plenty of 'selfless' people ruining other people's lives in the name of Good(read God), well atleast these so called selfish people don't bother others much as they are only concerned with their own lives.

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posted March 25, 2018 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Discovery charts is the birth of a planet astrologically speaking and gives us a deeper understanding of how the planet impacts us and the message it carries for us.

If you really want to understand a planet at its core you have to look at their discovery chart IMO, this is the purpose of these threads to get people to look at the discovery and gain a deeper understanding of that planet, discussions enhance and facilitate this process.


10 different astrologers might come up with 10 different interpretations of these discovery charts, the question is which one really is the truth now.

Like, does Chiron rule hotness(like SecretGeek interprets) or wounds(like Ami interprets) ?

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posted March 25, 2018 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
10 different astrologers might come up with 10 different interpretations of these discovery charts, the question is which one really is the truth now.

Like, does Chiron rule hotness(like SecretGeek interprets) or wounds(like Ami interprets) ?


I feel that is part of the process of getting to the truth and in the end each of us has to decide which truth resonates more with our own experience and with time we will get more data and get closer to an interpretation most of us can agree on that really gets to the core.

You go online and there are multiple astrological interpretations for everything. That is how I got into astrology, I noticed some interpretations were more in depth and got more to the core than others and bc of those interpretations I become a believer. For a while now I have been creating my own interpretations inspired by what I have learned over the years, my own experience and my own observations.

Right now based on chiron's discovery chart I feel chiron has an ability to feel very very deeply which puts someone in a vulnerable position, feeling very deeply can almost feel painful bc of how vulnerable it can make us feel but ultimately we have to allow ourselves to feel vulnerable in order to heal or truly fall in love.

I don't think chiron creates wounds or heartbreak, the wounds are already there but chiron brings them to the surface and allows you to feel them so you can then heal and with chiron we heal through the power of vulnerability and the power of love. Now if you don't let chiron do its thing and fight its natural process and identify with its souhtnode in aries (war) it can lead to a destructive path towards yourself and others like it did with Pablo Escobar.

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posted March 25, 2018 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus can be a planet of selfishness. That isn't love. Neptune should have been named Venus.

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posted March 25, 2018 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a simple example quote. The net is flooded with these types of descriptions. Much of the manifestation is selfish oriented and nothing to do with love.

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While the greatest manifestation of Venus is shown on an emotional level, it will also speak of our self-worth, money, banks, jewelry and sweets. Taurus Venus will speak of pasta while Libra Venus will speak of chocolate, and when combined, we get pleasures of all kinds, to taste, feel, and sense with our entire body and soul. It is a planet of senses – touch, taste and smell primarily, and it will bring out the love for certain things in our lives. http://www.astrology-zodiac-signs.com/astrology/planets/venus/

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posted March 25, 2018 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel that is part of the process of getting to the truth and in the end each of us has to decide which truth resonates more with our own experience and with time we will get more data and get closer to an interpretation most of us can agree on that really gets to the core.

You go online and there are multiple astrological interpretations for everything. That is how I got into astrology, I noticed some interpretations were more in depth and got more to the core than others and bc of those interpretations I become a believer. For a while now I have been creating my own interpretations inspired by what I have learned over the years, my own experience and my own observations.

Right now based on chiron's discovery chart I feel chiron has an ability to feel very very deeply which puts someone in a vulnerable position, feeling very deeply can almost feel painful bc of how vulnerable it can make us feel but ultimately we have to allow ourselves to feel vulnerable in order to heal or truly fall in love.

I don't think chiron creates wounds or heartbreak, the wounds are already there but chiron brings them to the surface and allows you to feel them so you can then heal and with chiron we heal through the power of vulnerability and the power of love. Now if you don't let chiron do its thing and fight its natural process and identify with its souhtnode in aries (war) it can lead to a destructive path towards yourself and others like it did with Pablo Escobar.


Hmm I agree, very well put.

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