posted March 24, 2018 07:07 AM            

Forget Venus. Neptune is the planet of making love. Lance romance too!

Neptune is a Libra (Sun), the NN is also in Libra, and was discovered in the 8th of sex (Aqua) nicely boosted by a Jupiter Air trine. The chart ruler is the Moon connected nicely to Virgo Venus with ONLY adjacent Mercury being exalted. Don't overlook Virgo Mars hiding in there (it takes one to know one LOL). Other than being a sex freak, it looks like a pretty weak chart, or is it? We shall find out.

posted March 24, 2018 07:50 AM            

The reason I know about Neptune is because I resonate very much with Neptune. For example, Neptune's DNA (procreation, creation) is on my Sun, our ASCs are on top of each other, Neptune's Neptune is on my SN, Neptune's Venus is on my Pluto, and Neptune's Neptune is trine my Venus. What a rush!

Here I compare Neptune (inside) and Valentine (outside) to see if there are resonances. Neptune's Valentine is on Valentine's NN while both Neptunes are Air trine. Notice how both Plutos resonate (also septile to each other) and Valentine's Venus has a Jupiter kicker in water.

posted March 24, 2018 09:13 AM            

Libra/Taurus are both Venus ruled. Libra doesn't like crowds and wants to be with a partner talking. But they love the intellect of the partner. Not instinctively. Love is more " I relate " in essence.

Taurus loves to lounge around with their mate- giving them tons of physical affection. They love the creature comforts that the partnership can bring. Love is more a " I have" possession.

Pisces is exalted in Venus placement. But I find Pisces in love to be more "fantasy"
than flesh and bone i.e. when Pisces starts to get involved with you on a personal basis,the fantasy disappears and they can start to look externally for unrealised dreams. This is love "ideal" and not real.

The "love" planet to me is the Moon. Its nurturing instincts are the nature of love because they don't require the other person to "do" something or be anything. It just is. And is very personal.

The typical love a mother instinctively feels for her offsprings is what I would equate to love.

posted March 24, 2018 09:25 AM            

Venus is pleasure and the give and take.

posted March 24, 2018 10:21 AM            

I think of love as the compliment of self (soul). Venus is more selfish but not all the time. Venus likes material things.

There are about 6 greek words to define love with the greatest being agape.

Here is "my" formula for love:

1 - self = love

In other words, it is impossible to love self. It is counter-intuitive. To love self, one can love others and the energy boomerangs back to self. Of course, it is best to love others anonymously to know we have the best motives.

posted March 24, 2018 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ How can you love others if you can't even love your self ?

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posted March 24, 2018 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ But that's where the energy comes from no? If there is love, wouldn't your self be the first one to feel it coz it originates from the self?

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Maybe if you are a Gemini and have a split personality. LOL jk.

posted March 24, 2018 11:59 AM            

Earth kind of love, seems to have natural 'expiration dates', like, when you wake up after the passion of love-making the night-before.

There's GOT to be 'something MORE' to all of this.

The 'love-of-the-moment' has within it, the seed kernel for something effervescent and mysterious... which we unconsciously sense. It's in the background of all that is.

Goes beyond the chemical processes ...
as those will expire, fail, grow stale.

Need a Refreshing????

posted March 24, 2018 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ How can you love others if you can't even love your self ?

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However, relationships are definitely much easier when both people in the relationship love themselves too. Someone not loving themselves quite often stirs up a bunch of conflict and it can be stressful to love and care about a person that doesn't love or care about themselves.

In my case, I fell in love with my boyfriend before I learned to love myself. Being loved by another person eventually motivated me to work on myself and become a better person. Over time, someone else loving me also helped me start to love things about myself and start seeing that I'm worthy of being loved.

posted March 24, 2018 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Isn't Pisces love same as the Cancer you describes, to give unconditionally & without expectation.

Venus is pleasure and the give and take.

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Perhaps clarity should be made as to whether we are referring to one on one love or the love of humanity? That was my point initially.

When it comes to love for your fellow man/humanity, Pisces is indeed a very powerful energy.

But in one on one contact, Pisces lives more in the ideals. They project ideals of who you are and fall inlove with imaginings ime.

They can be greatly disappointed in seeing the more "human" side of their mate. The fantasy being tarnished to a point where infidelity trickles in.

I would think Pisces love much like the artist. You are a first the muse, until you are not. And then Pisces looks for inspiration elsewhere.

Cancer love is nurturing true. Is prone to fluctuations, also true. But there is an instinctive need within this energy to get closer to you as an individual. You as a person and understand what you are all about. Cancer pays attention.

Cancer however is not great with spreading the same attention to humanity. If they do, they are usually selective I.e same race, same country, same religious group etc. They can be specific about this. Pisces is not.

posted March 24, 2018 10:31 PM            

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The "love" planet to me is the Moon. Its nurturing instincts are the nature of love because they don't require the other person to "do" something or be anything. It just is. And is very personal.

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Anyone with elder parents will tell you the unconditional love you receive as a child does come with expectation of reciprocation later.

posted March 25, 2018 12:16 AM            

"...Ancient Greek has four distinct words for love: agápe, éros, philía, and storgē...."

Agápe (ἀγάπη agápē[1]) means "love: esp. charity; the love of God for man and of man for God."[2] Agape is used in ancient texts to denote feelings for one's children and the feelings for a spouse, and it was also used to refer to a love feast.[3] Agape is used by Christians to express the unconditional love of God for his children.[4] This type of love was further explained by Thomas Aquinas as "to will the good of another."[5]

Éros (ἔρως érōs) means "love, mostly of the sexual passion."[6] The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love." Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." In the Symposium, the most famous ancient work on the subject, Plato has Socrates argue that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth, the ideal "Form" of youthful beauty that leads us humans to feel erotic desire – thus suggesting that even that sensually based love aspires to the non-corporeal, spiritual plane of existence; that is, finding its truth, just like finding any truth, leads to transcendence.[7] Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth through the means of eros.

Philia (φιλία philía) means "affectionate regard, friendship," usually "between equals."[8] It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle.[9] In his best-known work on ethics, Nicomachean Ethics, philia is expressed variously as loyalty to friends (specifically, "brotherly love"), family, and community, and requires virtue, equality, and familiarity. Furthermore, in the same text philos denotes a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers.

posted March 25, 2018 12:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Perhaps infatuation,romance and all that giddy, mushy stuff. But I would not say "Love". At least not in the interpersonal one on one sense.

Libra/Taurus are both Venus ruled. Libra doesn't like crowds and wants to be with a partner talking. But they love the intellect of the partner. Not instinctively. Love is more " I relate " in essence.

Taurus loves to lounge around with their mate- giving them tons of physical affection. They love the creature comforts that the partnership can bring. Love is more a " I have" possession.

Pisces is exalted in Venus placement. But I find Pisces in love to be more "fantasy"
than flesh and bone i.e. when Pisces starts to get involved with you on a personal basis,the fantasy disappears and they can start to look externally for unrealised dreams. This is love "ideal" and not real.

The "love" planet to me is the Moon. Its nurturing instincts are the nature of love because they don't require the other person to "do" something or be anything. It just is. And is very personal.

The typical love a mother instinctively feels for her offsprings is what I would equate to love.

Cancer energy is love. It just cares. No questions asked.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:04 AM            

Its weird. How can neptune be the higher octave of venus if Neptune's venus itself is at fall in Virgo.

It makes sense high ideals come from a desire for perfection.

On one hand neptune understands we are imperfect and deserve to be unconditionally loved anyways but it still has this desire for perfection in spite of knowing this in an instinctual level, is an internal conflict, a tug of war that happens subconsciously but in the end this desire for this unobtainable ideal is stronger so a part of you is always restless searching.

posted March 25, 2018 01:21 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
The problem with this theory is that Neptune is a generational planet and based on this theory, anyone who has Neptune in a certain sign would have to fall in love in a certain manner(according to their sign), and that 'anyone' includes people born within 14 years(which Neptune takes to travel through an entire sign). I just don't see that happening.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:24 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Not true IMO. That is what many teach. If you do a syn chart with Neptune (against your natal), you will resonate with Neptune different than me, even if we had the exact same degree of Neptune.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:40 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
What about Sun and Moon? Got any discovery chart for them?

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I addressed a similar question in another thread:

"Have you done one on Venus or Mercury?"