posted May 15, 2022 02:00 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Well, we will see! I have had two different psychic readings saying that I will meet someone, they don't know how, but it will be very fast and strong and the connection will be immediate...

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Ruler of 9th(2nd marriage partner) in the 8th may also emphasize something about sexual intimacy. Maybe the partner is well-versed in sexual matters or may even work(in some affiliated capacity) with sexual health or in the sex industry.

If you frequent lending institutions like investment companies and banks etc. They could come from there as 8th house is about "other people's money".

Since you are into psychics, it could be that the partner may be into those things too. Or are themselves a psychic/clairvoyant.

The partner will usually come through a familiar place we frequent or some activity we do on the regular etc.

I have a friend who met her husband whilst visiting a friend at a mental institution. She has ruler of the 7th in the 12th house.

The husband was working as an administrator when they met. And he(true to her placement) has Moon/Mars conj in Pisces(affiliated with house 12).

posted May 17, 2022 08:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Interpretations are not exhaustive ime. The ruler of the 7th on the 4th MUST say something about the types of significant
relationships you draw to yourself or are attracted to.

Saturn is not out there in the 4th house(as the ruler of the 7th)ceding its influence on the 7th. There is a point of "partnership" between the two houses as a result of the planet being there.

A political forum? That's interesting. Would you consider yourself patriotic or into politics? Maybe someone who holds traditional values when it comes to politics or domestic issues?

I see Pluto is mentioned to also be in house 4.So you either feel very strong about home and country (domestic politics/issues). Or positively disdain all that goes with it. Pluto tends to be extreme.

4th house is all things domestic and includes domestic politics and all things involving home & country. Whilst 9th house is more international/global politics & diplomatic relations etc.

So here, it wasn't so much that you two met at a specific place.I was being too narrow in my interpretation.The platform was negligible & irrelevant.You two met because of your views on domestic politics(4th).

So 7th house ruler (partner) in 4th is a partner that is likely patriotic or has conservative views(Sat) in relation to home & country.

If Sat conj Plu, they are likely very stubborn and passionate about their view. Not easily swayed and very vocal.

It is also likely that the partner also grew up under austere conditions or did not have an easy childhood(this especially if Pluto conj Sat). So there is a point of familiarity (4th) with you two because of upbringing and how that impacts on both your world views.

4th house connections are more about connecting on the basis of where you two come from. Not so much on the present. But more on how your views are influences by the past and the sense of familiarity as a result of that common base.

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"A political forum? That's interesting. Would you consider yourself patriotic or into politics? Maybe someone who holds traditional values when it comes to politics or domestic issues? "

Not traditional at all but my partner is like that. He is also quite patriotic. I'm not. Our conversations were arguments because we are politcially quite far away from each other.

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So here, it wasn't so much that you two met at a specific place.I was being too narrow in my interpretation.The platform was negligible & irrelevant.You two met because of your views on domestic politics(4th)."

It can be seen that way yes. I remember the video we both commented under was a speech from a politician that I really like. Someone who is left (I'm in germany so "politically left" has a slightly different interpretation than let's say in the US Americans) and he completely dislikes her. This politician very strongly advocates for workers' rights and the working class. That is how we started arguing (and really stongly actually).

"So 7th house ruler (partner) in 4th is a partner that is likely patriotic or has conservative views(Sat) in relation to home & country. "

This really does fit. yes.

"If Sat conj Plu, they are likely very stubborn and passionate about their view. Not easily swayed and very vocal. "

Saturn is not conjunct Pluto but it is conjunct Jupiter. But my partner IS extremely stubborn and NOT AT ALL easily swayed (Taurus sun, Cap ascendant...)

"It is also likely that the partner also grew up under austere conditions or did not have an easy childhood(this especially if Pluto conj Sat). So there is a point of familiarity (4th) with you two because of upbringing and how that impacts on both your world views."

This is very true! We both had difficult parents but he does not realise that his father's raising of him was NOT healthy. He definitely needs to work on some stuff from his past still.

posted June 02, 2022 09:50 PM            

Fun topic! The guy I want to marry to, we matched from a dating app (Venus 11H) but we became friends. He's like the first guy I wanted to get married to but our timing isn't in our favor. We have been together over a year.

I'm not married yet, perhaps it's my 7H ruler + Neptune conjunct DSC
7th House [Capricorn] => Saturn in 6H [Sagittarius]

We met up (finally!) after 3-4 years and we went for a hike (healthy activity 6H related?) but the trail was blocked so we went on a spontaneous trip to the beach and toked up when alone together (Neptune on DSC?). Before that, we went to grabbed Chinese food and talked about our own culture and politics (Sagittarius) and work life (Capricorn). The date was all unexpected and we went with the flow. It was positive too!

His 7th [Aries] => Mars in 7th
I am not sure how I may fit this all in his chart. He was the person who kept in contact with me and initiated the conversations via texting & social media as friends (aqua 5H). His Venus is either last degrees of 2H [Sag] or early degrees of 3H [Sagittarius]. We met at his house first to be fair [Mars in 7H], I drove to him and then he drove us.

posted June 03, 2022 03:09 AM            

Now with Neptune conj Dsc, there is a great deal of idealism in you within regards to the relationship that you attract. In a way, that is what is appealing to you.

This despite you taking time to get to know ypur partner, the Neptune energy of not really seeing your partner clearly, doesn't leave you.

Naturally Neptune will add distance/ language/cultural differences and sometimes even socio-economic complexities between you two to further deepen the mystery of the partner and (by extension) the appeal of the relationship.

Neptune conj Dsc has a tendency of having partners "morph" into someone else (once the relatonship has been consummated). This to a point where you ask "Who in the world did i marry?"

Always remember (esp with Nep conj Dsc) that your partner didn't come from a vacuum. They are a manifestation of an upbringing and a culture that they share with those they call "family".

It may be a good idea to see them on that setting with their family and friends to get a sense of what they are really all about.

Because with Nep conj Dsc, the temptation is always to spend time alone with them. Just the two of you. And if you do this and rarely see them in their natural habitat, you may be dating someone you only half know. That is key to remember.

Is Ven ruling your Ic? Saturn (ruler of Dsc) in 6th house suggests your partner may work in a health related field or a service oriented one(6th)? Perhaps maybe they have a lot of Virgo/Merc planetary or energy in their chart

Maybe they are a boss/manager/ administrator because Saturn is structure/order and may give them a high sense of discipline, responsibility or a sober-even serious- personality with a very dry sense of humour .

Saturn is delays and rules the elderly. So maybe they are older/more mature? Or have had to deal with a lot of delays and setbacks in their life/career?

With his Mars in his 7th(Aries) , look at your own chart. Are you Mars/Aries strong? Maybe you are into sports? Or work in a Mars-related field?

Does he like to compete with you? The hike you took suggests he does enjoy doing physical activities with you(Mars in 7th). Maybe he likes sparring with you and perhaps the initial meeting online started hot and heavy? Maybe you got into an argument or disagreement about something OR you felt intense physical attraction for each other?

posted June 06, 2022 09:56 AM            

My estranged husband has Pisces DC with Neptune in Sag and 3rd house.

We met while he was hanging out with a group of his friends at the pool of the apartment complex where I lived. I was sitting in the living room of my neighbor who's window looked out at the pool. I saw my husband through the window, and then went and asked a mutual friend to introduce us.

So, there's 11th house/ group of friends, Neptune/water in the pool, 3rd house and Gemini/neighbors.

posted June 10, 2022 05:16 AM            

Fantastic example. This is what I mean. The devil (or clues rather) are sometimes in the details.

posted June 10, 2022 05:53 AM            

My partner has pisces on Dsc, with jupiter in 11h and neptune in 5h.

posted June 10, 2022 06:21 AM            

The ruler of her 7th(Ven) is in the 12th house. 12th is foreign lands.So even without the marriage rituals, 7th is binding and (I think) considers relationships that last in excess of over 7 years to be "marriage" . And therefore affiliated with the 7th house.

The event in which they met under was the world cup. A football competitive tournament(Mars/Aries) and her Venus is in Aries.

Her partner Pique is by no means "ugly"(Venus represents him) and he has Moon in Aries . He even has Venus in 1st house.🤷🏿‍♂️

Don't let his serious and humourless face fool you. That's Saturn conjunct his Asc and Ura conj Ven -which can dilute some of that sweetness and make him appear "strict" at times. And even "aloof" and disinterested in other times (Ura).

She did say that she did think he was "cute". She didn't know who he was. But then he caught her eye anyways.

Venus ruling Shakira's 7th gives her an eye for beauty and being attracted very physically to a mate or finding looks very important in attraction(this esp when Ven is in Ari. The other one is when Ven is in Sco).

Shakira's man is represented by Venus in Aries in Shakira's 12th conj Asc. She thought he was "hot".

What I Also find interesting to note is that in that relationship, Shakira was very much the one who was wearing the pants. The ruler of Shakira's 7th is conjunct her Asc(1st house). So she "lead" the relationship and Pique was the more passive partner.

Moon in Aries men tend to choose more assertive partners. This too Venus in Aries men. Whereas the women with the named placement tend to embody this Martian energy and choose more "passive" partners.

Pique has 7th house ruler(Mercury). The ruler of his Dsc is mot making any aspects to his 12th to signify meeting a a partner in a foreign country.

But it does rule the intercepted Virgo sign on house 9(foreign country).And Neptune (foreign relations) does form a parallel aspect to his Dsc.

And what's more, he says(of their meeting) that he started write to her(Merc) to ask silly questions like "whats the weather like there where you are at?" Things he could easily look up etc. And she would respond. This to point where it was as frequent as every other minute.

posted June 10, 2022 12:46 PM            

Do let me know if you see a pattern.

We met at a place of worship.

I have Scorpio DSC. Mars is in Aquarius in the 10th.
My Saturn is in Sagittarius in the 7th.
He is Taurus DSC. Venus in Leo in the 9th house.
His Saturn is in Scorpio in the 1st.

posted June 11, 2022 10:16 PM            

Mercury rules my IC and it conjunct my MC. He has Gemini Moon and Sun/Uranus/Sat CAP in 3H with his Mercury/Neptune CAP square to Mars. He worked as an educational consultant for students. I think that fits Mercurial flavor but he feels behind in his career life. Right now Neptune transit sq his Moon. He feels lost. He’s very responsible and I like his fatherly-ness lol (I felt weird typing that) but he’s a couple years younger. His IC in Cap and he likes the naggy love I don’t know why he wants that from me. He has Sag Venus with Gemini Moon. I thought they want someone cheerful and not tell them how to live their life. But he asked of me to remind him to eat, sleep early, don’t forget to rest, etc.

I don’t think my Aries strong Aries23, bc one of the thing he brought up was my lack of initiative, assertiveness and planning. He wasn’t complaining but it’s something his past relationship patterns were. I have Venus in Aries with Aries Sun. I’m aloof. I had a tendency to wait for him to take action or being straight forward for me to take action and he’s bad with that. Lolol He gives hints if he wants to see me and sometimes I don’t see that. Like he text me a photo of his window view (he was like I was hoping you take it as a sign to “self invite to my place” when we clear our confusion) But I am passionate expressing in bed 🙈 I’m surprised he’s not competitive. He won’t roast me or tease me. I wonder if he’s holding it back. We have my Mars widely conjunct his Saturn. So yah I don’t know.

posted June 14, 2022 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by angryant2021:
Hi aries23degrees! Saturn is in aquarius for both people

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Ruler of Dsc in Aqua(Sat) in house 7 has the ruler in its own house🤔. Would you describe the meeting that much more? I.e what line of work are they in? What kind of personality do they have? Who made the 1st contact? What did you two bond on? etc.

The thing is that within the context of our current cell-centred age,online meetings are becoming less and less special/significant. What can be telling however, are the details of that contextual meeting . They will be reflected via the 7th house ruler and placement.

Like one respondent on here met her mate online. Not on a dating site. But where she made a comment on a political forum. And the two of them got into it.

posted June 14, 2022 12:33 PM            

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Originally posted by chocogold:
@Aries23Degrees

Do let me know if you see a pattern.

We met at a place of worship.

I have Scorpio DSC. Mars is in Aquarius in the 10th.
My Saturn is in Sagittarius in the 7th.
He is Taurus DSC. Venus in Leo in the 9th house.
His Saturn is in Scorpio in the 1st.

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You two met at a place of worship? That is usually Pis/Sag -12/9th or Jup/Nep house related🤔.

Sat in Sag in 7th would makes sense. That is if the cusp of the 9th in Cap in your case? Where is Jupiter?

My thinking is that the ruler of your 7th(Mars) in the 10th, would be more descriptive of his personality or character? Maybe he is prominent in some way or is in the public eye?

With Mars ruling the 7th, the nature is likely assertive or aggressive? A self made individual? Or someone who is very ambitious.

In his case,it is clearer.Ven rules house 7 and is in the 9th house of religion/places of worship.

Ven is U.So to him,u are charming, warm, beautiful,amiable,feminine & attractive. You light up(Leo) his life and he likely likes to show you off. Or he thinks that you are attention grabbing.

What is your line of work? Do you work in a 9th house related field? Teacher? Travel agent? Foreign language expert?

posted June 14, 2022 01:18 PM            

I think your Venus/Sun in Aries is enough of the indicator for his Mars in 7th and ruling it.

Mars in 7th can mean that one either dates a strongly assertive partner. Or they tend to get more assertive when they get into a relationship.

With Neptune, one can never be really sure of the true state of affairs. The reason being that Nep rules the 12th in the solar chart( things behind us). So we never really see what is behind us. Which makes it probable for us to be stabbed in the "back"(12th).

Now this could be the extreme side of Nep. But there are usually red flags prior to the betrayal. Your intuition is never your enemy. It will discern the true state of things. Listen to it.

If you fèel something is "off" or "fishy". That is Neptune (Neptune rules the sea and the world within it-this includes literal fish). Follow that gut.

I recall a time where I was scammed. As it was happening, there was a certain point where things started to feel "off". But I chose to ignore that and thought that I was being "stubborn" .So I rejected those feelings.

After I "woke". And it really feels like you suddenly spring awake. You realize how silly you were to ignore what you were feeling.

Experience is painful. But it is the best teacher. If you don't read the point where you are getting hoodwinked as exactly that. Then other experiences will come. Until you get the message.

posted June 14, 2022 02:20 PM            

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- Ruler of Dsc in Aqua(Sat) in house 7 has the ruler in its own house🤔. Would you describe the meeting that much more? I.e what line of work are they in? What kind of personality do they have? Who made the 1st contact? What did you two bond on? etc.

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Because its bumble the woman has to reply first, but he is the first to suggest meeting for dinner. He's a consultant for governmental topics like VAT etc. Very much an aquarius, fan of socialism, loves labor unions. I told him on our first date he was like an alien to me (my Background is in STEM) and that's why I swiped right.

He was attracted to my outgoingness and fun personality (he's got saturn in 5h so I think that dampens things for him). But on our first date we bonded on talking about friends, travelling, me trying to talk him into astrology, music, a book I like... I think we bonded on our differences.

posted June 14, 2022 11:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Sat in Sag in 7th would makes sense. That is if the cusp of the 9th in Cap in your case?

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Yes, the 9th house cusp falls on Capricorn.

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Where is Jupiter?

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My jupiter is in Pisces in the 11th house. Jupiter falls on Pisces.
His Jupiter is RX in the 3rd house in Aquarius. His 3rd house cusp falls on Capricorn.

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My thinking is that the ruler of your 7th(Mars) in the 10th, would be more descriptive of his personality or character? Maybe he is prominent in some way or is in the public eye?

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He has been prominent in the past and anything that he puts out, it always ends up working very well. He has not been able to establish himself however but finally he is following his passion and it looks like he is going towards that direction once more--being in the public somehow. He has sun, mars and mercury in the 10th house and Pars fortunae (conjunct sun) is there as well. I really hope he makes it.

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With Mars ruling the 7th, the nature is likely assertive or aggressive? A self made individual? Or someone who is very ambitious.

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Ambitious. And the path he is taking, it would allow him to become self-made. The minus is that his natal saturn squares mars (his chart ruler) and MC. I think that makes him a late bloomer, hopefully? I truly feel like he will be exceptional at it (his project). Yes, he is quite assertive.

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Ven is U.So to him,u are charming, warm, beautiful,amiable,feminine & attractive. You light up(Leo) his life and he likely likes to show you off. Or he thinks that you are attention grabbing.

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Yes to all of the above.

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What is your line of work? Do you work in a 9th house related field? Teacher? Travel agent? Foreign language expert?

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Legal field. I am a polyglot as well.

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Maybe you bring a sense if creativity (Leo), personality or beauty(Ven) in that line of work somehow.

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Perchance personality because my field is logic with little room for creativity/art.

posted June 15, 2022 02:38 AM            

Boom! Ruler of 7th in 7th suggests an assertive partner who(in the same breath) is the type to champion fairness and equality

The strict definition here is that a person with ruler of 7th in 7th "marries a diplomat/lawyer." My thinking is that this extends to activist or social reformist etc. As this person is usually very acutely aware of issues of fairness and unfairness.

And if its not part of their job, they may bring this sense of "fairness" in the relationship by sparring with you a lot on a range of topics and playing devil's advocate. Because they like to look at things from both sides.

Sat does suggest some authority in position or high rank, a job with an old institution (like government), someone who takes work very seriously.Or (on a more personal level) a late bloomer/ someone who has had to face many delays in life or put up with interruptions/ reversals or setbacks.

Very much an aquarius, fan of socialism, loves labor unions.

Yes. Often Saturn in Aqua people will feel a sense of obligation/loyalty towards the general public or humanity in some way.

posted June 15, 2022 02:48 AM            

With Leo energy,I would guess you bring you personality. Or you dominate the field you work in in some way. However Venus does suggest that this is not outright "domination " as would be if the Sun was there. It is likely dominating through charm or a fun/playful energy etc.

And another thing. Sometimes the sign the planet ruling our 7utilise is in, will show more details about the partner.

In your case Mars rules the 7th. You have established the partner is assertive and ambitious(Mars).

But with Mars in Aqua,the ambition is thwarted somewhat due to the energy of Aqua which has the ruler-Sat.

posted June 15, 2022 10:16 AM            

You are absolutely correct about playing devil's advocate. I actually thought the sparring was more because of his mars in gemini.

He has venus in the 7h, no planets in libra. His 3h is libra, which I think can explain the "looking at things from both sides".

posted June 15, 2022 11:09 AM            

Is Venus in Aries/Pisces?

With ruler of his 7th being Jup, he may see you as someone knowledgeable, someone with a generous or gregarious spirit? Maybe even someone very well travelled or with a knowledge of many different languages/foreign culture information?

Do you come from a foreign country than he ? Maybe of a differing race than He?Maybe you are religious person? There is something about Jupiter ruling 7th that can make the partner (in this case YOU) seem "larger than life" I.e maybe you have wide hips, have a thick physique, are tall in height OR you are someone with physical looks that suggest an "other worldly" origin.

Jupiter can endow ambiguous looks on the native as if that person is not a native of their country of birth etc. Maybe you could have a marked detachment from your own motherland and have a desire to settle abroad or travel to overseas places?

posted June 15, 2022 02:55 PM            

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Venus in 7th is in its accidental place of domicile. And can give "Libra" traits because that native will have a heightened sense of fairness.

Is Venus in Aries/Pisces?

With ruler of his 7th being Jup, he may see you as someone knowledgeable, someone with a generous or gregarious spirit? Maybe even someone very well travelled or with a knowledge of many different languages/foreign culture information?

Do you come from a foreign country than he ? Maybe of a differing race than He?Maybe you are religious person? There is something about Jupiter ruling 7th that can make the partner (in this case YOU) seem "larger than life" I.e maybe you have wide hips, have a thick physique, are tall in height OR you are someone with physical looks that suggest an "other worldly" origin.

Jupiter can endow ambiguous looks on the native as if that person is not a native of their country of birth etc. Maybe you could have a marked detachment from your own motherland and have a desire to settle abroad or travel to overseas places?

Whatever it about you and your personality, it likely has a Jupiter energy to it.

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His venus is in pisces.

And yes! You are right, I'm of a different race/culture/heritage and I am completely averse to settling down in my homeland. Interestingly enough, I have Jupiter in the 3rd quintile sun, venus, and uranus, and my jupiter doesn't make significant aspects to his chart, other than making a sextile to his ascendant..