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Coffee
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posted June 02, 2010 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
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Friends????? Think about this for a minute..... If I showed up on your door step crying, Would you care? If I called you and asked you to come pick me up because something happened, Would you come? If I needed a shoulder to cry on, Would you loan me yours? If I had one day to live my life, Would you be a part of it?..... Life is lonely without friends. It's World's Best Friend Week.... If you agree re-post Please

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1. When you are sad ~ I will help you get drunk and plot revenge against the sorry ******* who made you sad.

2. When you are blue ~ I will try to dislodge whatever is choking you.

3. When you smile ~ I will know you are thinking of something that I would probably want to be involved in.

4. When you are scared ~ I will rag on you about it every chance I get until you're NOT.

5. When you are worried ~ I will tell you horrible stories about how much worse it could be until you quit whining.

6.. When you are confused ~ I will try to use only little words.

7.. When you are sick ~ Stay the hell away from me until you are well again.. I don't want whatever you have.

8. When you fall ~ I will laugh at your clumsy as$, but I'll help you up.

9. This is my oath .... I pledge it to the end. 'Why?' you may ask ~ because you are my friend


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Nephthys
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posted June 02, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
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If I had one day to live my life, Would you be a part of it?

Just imagine, if each of us, only had one day left...........why don't we live every day like this? Shouldn't we?

~ Treasure those in your life, because you never know how long you, or they, might have ~

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Lara
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posted June 02, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I would care... i'd rather give you the money so you can get a home that's disability friendly and one day i will.

I try to live each day as if it's my only one. Every morning i wake up feeling humbled and blessed that i am alive and awake. Every night i re-run my day and have blessings and prayers for all the good in it.
It allows my life to be positive and wholesome

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted June 02, 2010 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
geesh. you guys really don't know me at all.

Lexx, i am sorry you don't appreciate my humor or think it is funny.

maybe I could say if i had a sick friend that was dying i would do thier laundry and clean thier house every week for five years, and in such a way that they didnt lose dignity or feel embarrassed to have help with things, or how i can't leave when i have a friend dying and stay and stay and sing to them and love them into the next world, however much it hurts me... but seriously, anytime i talk about being good to others on here, i get treated like toot your own horn some more. so, really it is no ones buisness if i pay a friends heating bill beacause they don't have the money, or help them with their rent... whatever i do. it is my buisness anyway,,,,so i keep it light and get slaugthered for that.

whatever.
you guys don't even know me.

and honestly, if you think you are a better friend to others than i am, i don't really care, I know who and what i am and what i would do for a real friend, so it doesn't a matter to me what you think. i guess i thought you guys knew me a little better than that after all this time.

and i know enough about some of you to realize that, humor is not apprecaited all that much, nor will it ever be.

however, i truly believe life is a gift and not to enjoy it is not being appreciative of the gift. i don't think it is a sin to laugh and have fun, i think it is more of a sin to complain and whine through this life and focus on what you don't have instead of making the best of what you do have... and if you think i am an unkind person, well, you don't know me at all, and can think what you want. i don't own your thoughts, only mine.

c-ya.

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WinkAway
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posted June 02, 2010 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhhh CPN (((HUG)))

I would give my right arm to have a friend like that...well okay, maybe my left

It's all in good humor.. but seriously kidding (get that? tee hee) A friend who cares enough to stop and take the time to so much as look my way would be a welcome sight. Everyone is so selfish nowdays or so wrapped up in their own drama that they don't want any part of someone else's issues...not even to help them. I'm not like that. I would give my last five bucks if it meant it would make your day a little better...and I have in the past.

I had a friend over last week and he said that he almost suffocated himself over something someone said to him on the internet... just being teased by someone he never met! Long story there, but you never know how much a simple gesture of kindness could mean to someone. And on the same token, how a small insult could ruin them. I almost lost a good friend over someone being an a$$hole.

I must be tired, I'm rambling lol.

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LEXX
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posted June 02, 2010 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Nephthys

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LEXX
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posted June 02, 2010 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Lara
You are a good kind caring soul.
Wishing for you many blessings and continued great love and happiness!
I totally relate to what you said!
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I try to live each day as if it's my only one. Every morning i wake up feeling humbled and blessed that i am alive and awake. Every night i re-run my day and have blessings and prayers for all the good in it.
It allows my life to be positive and wholesome

Like even during the latest with my health, even in pain, ice pack on jaw.....
I lay in bed, looking out my window, my cat cuddling me purring like crazy, then seeing a pair of doves outside just a few yards away, and smelling the fresh air, and sunbeams of dawn gilding the dewy grass, and my beloved coming in asking, how are you doing honey?.....
Well....I have much to be thankful for and happy about! And I am! Like watching the oak tree growing in the bathroom window, from an acorn he brought me a few weeks ago when he took a walk in the woods.....knowing I was too ill to walk with him that day.....
Yet there it is, a little oak tree, a symbol of love and life!

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LEXX
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posted June 02, 2010 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
cpn_edgar_winner
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geesh. you guys really don't know me at all.
No, I do not really know you.
And perhaps others here do not either.
It is not always easy to really get to know folks online.
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Lexx, i am sorry you don't appreciate my humor or think it is funny.
I do find much of your humour amusing, just not the ones posted on this thread.
I felt really bad about upsetting you, even though you upset me.....
so I asked around in my offline world, if your 1 to 8 were funny. Some thought the first 3 kinda funny in a sarcastic twisted way,
but totally agreed that 4 to 8 were nasty and not friend like in the least bit.
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maybe I could say if i had a sick friend that was dying i would do thier laundry and clean thier house every week for five years, and in such a way that they didnt lose dignity or feel embarrassed to have help with things,
that is very caring and kind....
but would such a person in their position find any humour in numbers 4 to 8?
After reading numbers 4 to 8, I would be feeling too humiliated and embarrassed to want your help, or help from anyone who finds that funny.
Can't you see my point?
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or how i can't leave when i have a friend dying and stay and stay and sing to them and love them into the next world, however much it hurts me...
Again, that was very loving and caring, but would you joker about it?
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but seriously, anytime i talk about being good to others on here, i get treated like toot your own horn some more.
Really? If I ever did that, I am truly sorry.
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so, really it is no ones buisness if i pay a friends heating bill beacause they don't have the money, or help them with their rent... whatever i do. it is my buisness anyway,,,,
I understand all that and do similar such things...but rarely post about it all...
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so i keep it light and get slaugthered for that.
Sorry you feel slaughtered...but numbers 4 to 8 were unkind.
I would truly be too embarrassed to meet you in real life. To me, the fact that even a small part of you found those funny, then I would be too embarrassed to be seen by you because I would be thinking about how I fit the description of someone to laugh at or belittle, torment, call a whiner, or joke about.
Can't you see how it appears on my side here?
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whatever.
you guys don't even know me.

It seems we do not.
Sorry.
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and honestly, if you think you are a better friend to others than i am, i don't really care, I know who and what i am and what i would do for a real friend, so it doesn't a matter to me what you think. i guess i thought you guys knew me a little better than that after all this time.
Again, I do not know you well.
Sorry.
But still found 1 to 8 very unkind.
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and i know enough about some of you to realize that, humor is not apprecaited all that much, nor will it ever be.
I have humour but it does not always jive with yours.
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however, i truly believe life is a gift and not to enjoy it is not being appreciative of the gift.
I agree.
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i don't think it is a sin to laugh and have fun,
It is when it is being unkind and making fun of folks.
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i think it is more of a sin to complain and whine through this life and focus on what you don't have instead of making the best of what you do have...
I agree with what Lara said!
I do love my life and am grateful for what I have. I wake each day happy to be alive!
{Please see my above reply to Lara)
Perhaps you see me as weak and whining because I finally broke down last fall?
That was the impression I got at the time. Like I'd disappointed you for not staying strong. My posting about my troubles does not mean I am a sniveling whining person who cannot make the best of what I have. I know many folks who would have totally given up if they were in my shoes. I have even had some tell me I should just kill myself.
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and if you think i am an unkind person, well, you don't know me at all, and can think what you want. i don't own your thoughts, only mine.
And yet again....no, you do not know my thoughts or me well nor I you it seems.
I am sorry to have upset you.
But your 1 to 8 were unkind no matter what you think.

c-ya.

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LEXX
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posted June 02, 2010 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
WinkAway.
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I had a friend over last week and he said that he almost suffocated himself over something someone said to him on the internet... just being teased by someone he never met! Long story there, but you never know how much a simple gesture of kindness could mean to someone. And on the same token, how a small insult could ruin them. I almost lost a good friend over someone being an a$$hole.
Very well said.

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Coffee
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posted June 02, 2010 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Well said. I've had a few ""friends"" really upset and insult Me by not making a phone call (that was the least of it) that could have saved Me a lot of worry, and would have put Me and everyone around in a better mood. No, I don't think she is dead or still in trouble. You never know eh?

Still I keep asking and they don't call.

Really have found out who my "friends" are in these past few....past month. Some real nasty ones out there (if not in here)
Maybe they joined the nasty club.

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Coffee
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posted June 02, 2010 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone take a guess why they haven't called?
Really, because that kind of treatment is the lowest of the low. Someone was in real serious trouble and I wanted to make sure she was fine, and they said they would call and they didn't. Still don't and without good excuse. No, doesn't seem like she is dead, but sure does when they don't call.

Sorry about this, but I am human, unlike others. Don't deserve this or some pathetic excuse. Yeah, I'm ranting/venting like a woman.

Any reason anyone? Without knowing the situation...why would someone/people not call like that?

NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER.

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Coffee
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posted June 02, 2010 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
How about I give my number out here (these people have my number) and someone calls to tell me she is ok? Just pretend eh?

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!

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Valus
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posted June 02, 2010 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

cpn,

It wasn't an attack.
I thought you were serious
so I was disagreeing
and sharing my views.

I know plenty of people who think that way,
and they'll laugh and say it's a joke, but
isn't that how insensitive people are?
Isnt that how insensitive humor is?

From what I do know of you,
and from what I've heard you say,
it's not easy to determine the extent
to which you may be kidding here.

I don't think you're tooting your horn,
but I do think you're being defensive.
And I think LEXX would have liked to hear
the nice things that you do for your friends.
You could just present them as how a friend is,
without having to say that's what you have done.
People might think those things were done for you.

Also, I dont think you're an unkind person,
I just think that you, like everyone else,
hold beliefs which limit your compassion.

If you think something isn't insensitive,
then it's not insensitive to you, but,
if you're wrong, it's still insensitive,
even if your heart is in the right place.

'nuff said

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Yin
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posted June 02, 2010 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message

cpn,

The joke upset me too. I grew up in an environment where they actually believed it's a good idea to kick somebody when they're down in order to give them a push in the right direction. People thought it was the right way to act and be. I have seen so many crushed dreamers, such bitterness thanks to "tough love"!

But this is not why I feel compelled to post now. I wanted to post because something needs to be said here...

cpn made an insensitive post and received two disagreeing replies. That was enough for her to get all defensive, and tell people how she doesn't really care, and how they don't even know her.

Now, compare that to what happens when Valus posts and he gets 10 angry replies. Multiply that by 6 years. Remember how, despite all the bad feelings and energy directed his way (and my way by association), he still tries to explain himself and apologizes profusely just so there is peace? I do.


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Coffee
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posted June 02, 2010 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Although this may seem good, they keep telling me, and also messages from her, that she will be here at my house on Friday. Apart from them lying through their teeth most of the time, that sounds good.

Somehow, don't believe it. Wouldn't shock me if they had a gun to her head, just to tell someone. Now if they told me they wanted her to be raped, at least they would be honest and I would know.

Yeah, hopefully thats it, really really at my lowest with this one. When you got people like this in the world, especially the ones who stand back and do nothing - scum - thats a world I don't want to be in. It's a world which many are in right now and continue with their pledge. Thank god I have someone to live for.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted June 02, 2010 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
actually lexx you did not upset me at all. i just got an email i found amusing and reposted it. if you would be embarrassed walking with me, well, i wouldn't so i guess it isn't my issue.

yes coffee it is rude to leave people worrying about you. very rude. she probobly went on about her life and forgot all about, selfishly leaving you worry. i dont think i would consider someone who did that a friend at all. more like someone who just uses people.

yin - while i did defend my position, i did not call anyone names, or act in a condesending manner to anyone. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

frankly i was surprised that after 6 years of posting here that most of you dont know me a little better than that.

and actually when i am down and realise how many people are worse off than me, it does make you put things in perspective and feel thankful that things aren't a lot worse.

and furthermore i can't for the life of me remeber her screen name, but you know the girl that got jilted at the altar, and had to work with the guy after he got married to another girl and was sad sad sad? i remember the dear girl, a harmless prank made all the difference with the faint sound of mc hammer singing, can't touch this, totally made her situation bearable. how is that a bad thing? pa made me laugh when i was going through a hard time and i love her for it, i am pretty usre she even made fun of me, and we laughed and made jokes about it.. and sometimes it takes a good hearty laugh to get through certain situations that bring us down and remember that life IS good.

and furthermore, people that are carrying airborne pathogens should deliberately not go around others, as a courtesy to others, i don't. if i had even a sniffle i wouldnt go around my dad, because i would never wnat to make him sick, my germ could mean his life. some people have compromised immune systems and people with colds, germ and such should contain themselves as a courtesy to others.

i am tired of writing this trying to explain myself. i'm am not so sure certain people will ever be receptive to me, and i am ok with that. take care everybody...and have a beautiful evening.

and thank you wink away. i have a feeling you are someone i would be proud to call friend too. when that guy swindled you a long time ago, i i would have loved to be the one to sit with you and plot revenge we would never carry out until i could make you laugh.

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teasel
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posted June 02, 2010 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I realized that it was a joke... the one about laughing at someone when they fall, as you help them up? My family.

I slipped over, coming out of a concert, when I was fifteen (this, walking alongside a girl who was deliberately slipping and sliding on the floor). Mum helped me up, and we burst out laughing, as soon as I looked her in the eye - When we started to laugh, other people around us did as well. (obviously, nobody would be laughing if the other had been hurt.) Anyway, that's what that one reminded me of.

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Coffee
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posted June 02, 2010 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Hi CPN, if she had/has a gun to her head, that would be an excuse. The others have none, no. Thanks for listening.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted June 02, 2010 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
your so cool teasel. i always think that and never say it.

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posted June 02, 2010 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
dont let someone like that use you coffee, you deserve better than that.

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posted June 02, 2010 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Well, if the lady in question was being raped for weeks on end, and she was due to leave that place for whatever reason, and my ""Friends"" told me they would bring her straight up (a few of them said this) and ring me - yet they didn't. Would you th.........nah, and if she was then released and straight into the hands of bad people who raped her for more weeks than just has been, probably still going on RIGHT NOW.

Would you forgive her and think she has stuff going on, or would you think that something is wrong?

The people who are ""friends"" are the real nasty ones. Without knowledge of the situation (I've been there) hard to see the situation clearly.

It's more than humiliating. Isn't that what the illuminati do to new members? Humiliate them?

How many members of congress/politics are in the illuminati?

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LEXX
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posted June 02, 2010 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
cpn...
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if you would be embarrassed walking with me, well, i wouldn't so i guess it isn't my issue.
I have no reason to be embarrassed by you.
However I feel that by what you find funny..."clumsy falling people" for example, and so forth...that I would embarrass you, or I feel that even if you did not say so, that by what you find humorous....well that you you would be thinking "what a clumsy ass".
How can I feel otherwise?
You made it very clear that such things are funny to you.
I shall attempt to explain:
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4. When you are scared ~ I will rag on you about it every chance I get until you're NOT.
So when I had blindness episodes, or other scary things happen....
you would rag me about it?
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5. When you are worried ~ I will tell you horrible stories about how much worse it could be until you quit whining.
So when I had to revive my beloved....you would tell me horrible things? When I had strokes you would tell me bad things and not to be worried?
So talking about one's personal SERIOUS woes is whining?
Whining is when (true story) parents have to bury a child and b!tch about the $4,000 the funeral will set them back so they will have to go a whole month before they could buy a new $25,000 hot air balloon.
Whining is when someone has a great place and beautiful carpets but b!tches that the new ones will not be in for three days instead of two...when there was nothing wrong with the "old" carpet.
B!tching and whining is when a thin fit person goes on about how fat ugly and gross they are to a person three times their size.
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6.. When you are confused ~ I will try to use only little words.
Talk to me like I am a moron?
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7.. When you are sick ~ Stay the hell away from me until you are well again.. I don't want whatever you have.
I totally agree about airborne nasties.
However I would glove up and mask up...and have to help friends who were home bound and sick. I would not visit anyone if I were ill.
I even took care of someone for 12 weeks and had my doctor put me on antibiotics so I would be safe. I have delivered food to sick folks....and more.
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8. When you fall ~ I will laugh at your clumsy as$, but I'll help you up.
I fall often. Laughing at me would only make me feel worse. I have been laughed at too often, up to lying there while strangers crack up over the big fat person struggling to get back up. Bigger laughs ensue when I collapse repeatedly.
Yeah, such mirthful joy I bring to others!

Words have power to hurt or soothe. And timing is also a factor. I posted on another thread how I have known folks who were driven to suicide by an ill timed unkind barrage or continuous ridicule.
I have known folks who just by a random act of kindness were transformed by it to feeling more optimistic or at the very least, less despondent.
I am quite aware that things could be much worse...however that does not negate the reality nor the severity of my or any person's suffering.
Call us whiners, call us clumsy, or silly, or weak....

whatever.

I have thought of you as a nice person.
I still do.:

But I have to agree with what Valus said:

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I know plenty of people who think that way,
and they'll laugh and say it's a joke, but
isn't that how insensitive people are?
Isnt that how insensitive humor is?

From what I do know of you,
and from what I've heard you say,
it's not easy to determine the extent
to which you may be kidding here.

I don't think you're tooting your horn,
but I do think you're being defensive.
And I think LEXX would have liked to hear
the nice things that you do for your friends.
You could just present them as how a friend is,
without having to say that's what you have done.
People might think those things were done for you.

Also, I dont think you're an unkind person,
I just think that you, like everyone else,
hold beliefs which limit your compassion.

If you think something isn't insensitive,
then it's not insensitive to you, but,
if you're wrong, it's still insensitive,
even if your heart is in the right place.


I would never use those "friendship" codes of conduct on you.

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posted June 02, 2010 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Coffee
I understand.
It just is not considerate at all.

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posted June 02, 2010 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
cpn
I know you are a good person.
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cheer up buttercup!
you has friends.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/001170.html

My grandpa used to call me buttercp.
You really made me smile that day.
I so needed that!
Do you have any idea how nice that was for me?

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posted June 02, 2010 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
I believe the humor in the "mean list" is that it's so unexpected. That is, it's not about laughing at someone getting hurt, it's about surprising people who expected another fluff bunny chain letter instead.

I know I've laughed at mean jokes before IF it was unexpected and caught me off guard. (But then for me the unexpected surprise is what's funny whether or not it's mean.)

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