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Topic: Smoking cravings
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charmainec
Moderator Posts: 5539
From: Venus next to Randall
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posted May 23, 2012 06:23 AM
  
It sounds like a grievience and if anyone has one, then I suggest it's delt with at that time and not digging up past issues.IP: Logged |
T
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posted May 23, 2012 06:33 AM
Gee, I would have dealt with it if her thread wasnt closed so quickly. All I wanted to do was reply. And to many others before her. But yeah, it is what it is. BTW I was just continuing the conversation with a member who brought up having a Good-bye/Sabbatical forum. So before you go on the attack on me and say I'm diverting the thread, realize that someone else brought the subject up first. I was simply responding. Then, if you want, you can go ahead and attack me. I can take it. 
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charmainec
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From: Venus next to Randall
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posted May 23, 2012 06:46 AM
Attack you? Nice try.The way you attacked Randall on his piercing thread? Insulting and cussing.
Nah, not my style. No one here was gagged as you put it, thus I said old grieviences as you clearly have some from what you said in that post.
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charmainec
Moderator Posts: 5539
From: Venus next to Randall
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2012 06:46 AM
Attack you? Nice try.The way you attacked Randall on his piercing thread? Insulting and cussing.
Nah, not my style. No one here was gagged as you put it, thus I said old grieviences as you clearly have some from what you said in that post.
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T
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posted May 23, 2012 06:53 AM
K. I have no old grieviences. People I do not like, yes. But we all have those here.& yes, people have been 'gagged' and shut up here. Many times. Sorry you missed it. Or havent noticed their absence. IP: Logged |
T
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posted May 23, 2012 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by charmainec:
Attack you? Nice try.
You flipped a switch and suddenly told me to stay on topic and not cause drama. I don't appreciate that. I pointed out that I was responding to what someone else wrote. Your sudden unfriendly response indicated to me that you werent appreciating my pointing out what goes on here when members want to post a good-bye thread. Reiterating what I was pointing out in the first place. IP: Logged |
charmainec
Moderator Posts: 5539
From: Venus next to Randall
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2012 07:10 AM
T, there may be people whom I don't get along with either and stay clear of them.Again, lets just agree to disagree. *peace* Breakfast time. IP: Logged |
T
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posted May 23, 2012 07:13 AM
All I'm saying is I disagree with automatically closing Good-bye threads. It's rude and cold imo. Give them a chance to say good-bye and have their friends respond before closing the thread. When a thread hasnt even gotten out of control, why close it? Especially a polite, loving thread where someone wants to say farewell.I can understand if it turned into a fight or got really dramatic, but let's get real, 99% of the time, that is not going to happen. & if it did, then close it. Why close it beforehand, when nothing negative has happened? & I am enjoying breakfast now too.  Just turned on the local news... have a good day. IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2012 08:35 AM
Firstly, I didn't close Joan's string. Maybe it was Juni? That being said, I do agree with closing them. She took a jab at us in hers, and it was clear by that jab that she intended on inciting drama as she left. Had she merely wanted to say goodbye, she would have done so without hurling insults. Betty Boop returned a while back. Maybe she chose to leave again the last couple of days? The reason we close those types of strings is because we used to leave them open, and they almost always became divisive in nature. They blow up, and the arguments spread through the site. Some people prefer anarchy, but most of us like the peaceful vibe here.  ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
charmainec
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From: Venus next to Randall
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2012 09:36 AM
Edit: Changed my mind.. typical Gem moon style.  IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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From: Toronto
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 23, 2012 12:14 PM
I am worried about my boyfriend's wild mood swings when he quits, as he tends to be moody on a good day  . I'm prepared to tough it out, though. I really worry about his health and want him to quit, like, yesterday.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted May 23, 2012 12:16 PM
On a side note, I miss Joan. I really connected with her and was sad to hear she wasn't just away for a few days but wasn't coming back  .IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted May 23, 2012 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by charmainec:
The only problem is curbing the mood swings. Oh, and the gum tastes terrible! Yuck. And what's so sexy about stinky hair and astray breath?  Sorry, can't believe that some think that. Lol!
I agree with you, the act of smoking itself I find atrocious but a good-looking person is a good-looking person, smoker or not, unfortunately. If a woman wants to look slightly trashy-sexy, why not just get a tattoo? Why risk cancer? IP: Logged |
sand
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posted May 23, 2012 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
On a side note, I miss Joan. I really connected with her and was sad to hear she wasn't just away for a few days but wasn't coming back .
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sand
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posted May 23, 2012 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
If a woman wants to look slightly trashy-sexy, why not just get a tattoo? Why risk cancer?
I don't have that image of smoking on women. More.. 
Audrey Hepburn by quicheisinsane, on Flickr IP: Logged |
T
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posted May 23, 2012 12:31 PM
I never saw Joan take jabs, "hurl insults" or be rude here and highly doubt she wanted to start drama. That was not her style.She was a peace-lovin hippie like me.  Also, I've been trying to, but cant remember a recent good-bye thread sprialling out of control. Havent seen that in a very long while. Maybe in Astrology, after a heated argument? I don't keep up with that forum. But it's not typically what happens, no. IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2012 02:16 PM
You haven't seen it occur recently, because we close them before they get a chance to spiral. Joan took a jab in her goodbye string, which was closed. Actually, it IS typically what happens, which is why we adopted this policy. Peruse the history of this Forum for plenty of examples. But thank you for your opinion nonetheless.------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 21992
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
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posted May 23, 2012 02:27 PM
I know people who quit cold turkey and never looked back. And I know others who still get cravings years later. One woman I know was saved (in the Christian sense) and was instantly delivered from cigs, alcohol, and drugs, which is a pretty powerful testimony on one's ability to change.------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Hera
Moderator Posts: 4430
From: the OR
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 23, 2012 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I am worried about my boyfriend's wild mood swings when he quits, as he tends to be moody on a good day . I'm prepared to tough it out, though. I really worry about his health and want him to quit, like, yesterday.
It has to come from him, try to refrain from influencing him because it causes more pressure and guilt and only makes him want to smoke. I noticed you said he's Sag Moon, I have that one too. Of course I knew people were right when they told me to quit and only had my best interest at heart, but he has to be ready to deal with it, he has to come to that place inside where he really is ready to take the plunge and assume all cravings afterwards. Pressure doesn't help. I personally always loved to smoke, I wanted to start smoking since I was little. Both parents have been smokers, Mom quit. Maybe it was because I saw them rarely when I was little, but I used to love the minor details about them, especially their smells, and I remember I used to think cig smoke smelled so wonderful (I'm like eww now but heh... kid). I started at 16 and this is the 3rd time I've quit. It wasn't peer pressure for me, but I guess I wanted to fit in and be seen as cooler. I was an overweight nerd but starting 15-16 became quite popular and yes, a part of that was because of smoking (also lost a great deal of weight and was quite a stunner back then). Yeah, I do think it looks cool and pretty bad-a$$ but I do realize it is because of mass-media manipulation. It is sometimes hard to not reach out for my cigs when I'm stuck in traffic or studying for some exam or have a really really bad argument with my annoying boss who has no leadership qualities and wants me to read his mind, do his work and make him look good at the end of it.  My boss is my biggest temptation for starting smoking again arghhhhhhh!!! Main reasons I quit:
-smell - yuck! taurus Venus not likey
-health - about time I treat my body with the due respect... 
-respect from my patients - I can't really ask them to quit to save their leg when they see me in my cig break now can I??
-bottom line, it is addiction no matter how you put it. I refrained from buying food to buy cigs. It reminded me of drug addiction and it wasn't too far off, actually. I hate when I don't have absolute, total control over my own mind and things like this taking over me, it irks me to no end to be a slave to something like this and heh, that's what I was. 60 cigs per day in the last period.
-last but not least, it gives me such confidence and sense of inner pride that I managed to overcome this and it's this thought that keeps me from smoking again, I would hate to lose this. IP: Logged |
Hera
Moderator Posts: 4430
From: the OR
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 23, 2012 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by T:
I never saw Joan take jabs, "hurl insults" or be rude here and highly doubt she wanted to start drama. That was not her style.She was a peace-lovin hippie like me. Also, I've been trying to, but cant remember a recent good-bye thread sprialling out of control. Havent seen that in a very long while. Maybe in Astrology, after a heated argument? I don't keep up with that forum. But it's not typically what happens, no.
I have seen it a few times (not about Joan, in general over the years). It is quite sad that it comes to that and there are quite a few people that are no longer here and that I miss. It's sometimes hard for me because I am quite Fiery, but I try to stay detached and remember this is just internet, a very dear forum but Internet nonetheless. It is why I keep disappearing from time to time. With the ones I connected profoundly I keep in touch outside LL too, or have been at some point. I seem to be a lil erratic in this regard.  IP: Logged |
charmainec
Moderator Posts: 5539
From: Venus next to Randall
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2012 02:35 AM
There are prescription drugs to help with mood swings for those who find it difficult to cope. Sixty cigs a day, Hera? O_O Wow!
Glad you quite!  ------------------
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Hera
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posted May 24, 2012 03:05 PM
I'm also glad, Charmaine! You can do this too!!! IP: Logged |
ghanima81
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From: Maine
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2012 04:10 PM
Cold turkey 3 1/2 years ago. Had to be done, I found out I was pregnant. Never looked back, but I have a darn good reason not to start back up again. I could NOT date a smoker. I was seeing somebody last year that kept saying "I want to, but I'm so stressed out". Um, then you don't really want to, IMO. Thankful my bf quit before we started dating, and I support him. He does have an electronic thingy that I've never seen him use, but he has not picked up a cigarette. IP: Logged |
T
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posted May 25, 2012 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by charmainec:
There are prescription drugs to help with mood swings for those who find it difficult to cope.
Have you seen/heard of the side effects that come along with most prescription drugs, charmaine? Really awful stuff. I really hope you don't go that route. Please don't. It might be better (healthier) to smoke an occassional cigarette instead. & eventually work on getting to the root of the problem.  IP: Logged |
T
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posted May 25, 2012 12:49 AM
Hera, I miss many ex members here too.  IP: Logged |
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