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Topic: Self-Moderation
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 7739
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 12:39 PM
  
Actually, in real life, depending upon the severity of the words, it is a crime. In my state, it is simple assault (no contact is required). It can also be harassment.------------------
"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 12:42 PM
This would be my challenge to anyone who would do this with an unbiased mind.
Read Animal Farm. Come back and tell me WHICH group of people could have made it turn out ,differently?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
I disagree with the idea that this is a discussion of democracy. Like I said, in real life the people that keep you in check are those that are around you at the time. There's no government system involved unless it's crimal (and what's criminal isn't people calling each other names; we can't be locking up preschoolers now, can we?  ).
I, 10000% disagree,AG
This is probably the root of the issue.
We view the nature of man differently,AG.
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Why have a finely manicured lawn and be crying on the inside?
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 12:48 PM
AG
I think if you ran a huge operation, you would,quickly change your POV.
You can entertain it ,now,cuz it has never been challenged in real life.
I say this with respect and honor to you.
I think you do not know about this area of life.------------------
Why have a finely manicured lawn and be crying on the inside?
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 12:48 PM
I don't think there's a place I could go in the country, and not be able to legally call someone a name. What would that do to politics if that were the case?  quote:
I, 10000% disagree,AG
This is probably the root of the issue.
We view the nature of man differently,AG.
That's nice, but my position is still far better reasoned. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 12:52 PM
Facebook Message me your address ,AG,and I will send you a copy of Animal Farm so you can remember me every time you read it  ------------------
Why have a finely manicured lawn and be crying on the inside?
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 12:53 PM
This isn't a company. You have to understand the context that you're working in. It's not a country, so it's not about democracy. It's not a business, so it's not leading a huge operation.It's a social site. In this context, leadership can work. Single leadership, not so much. The reason is that the place's worth is dependent on the membership, so when you prune it against it's wishes it becomes a problem. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
This isn't a company. You have to understand the context that you're working in. It's not a country, so it's not about democracy. It's not a business, so it's not leading a huge operation.It's a social site. In this context, leadership can work. Single leadership, not so much. The reason is that the place's worth is dependent on the membership, so when you prune it against it's wishes it becomes a problem.
100% disagree but I am still cute and you are too ------------------
Why have a finely manicured lawn and be crying on the inside?
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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juniperb
Moderator Posts: 1700
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 01:00 PM
Bear with me AG  From experience I know the kindest people, the intellectuals and those of great self moderating experience can in a given community , over time, erode due to a single passive aggressive individual.
Multiply that x just one and self moderation wans and the over all depleting energy takes hold. Nobel folks are human too and fall prey . You can and do practice it but others simply are not mature enough on enough levels. ------------------
~The Earth Laughs In Flowers~
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 01:10 PM
I am just gonna say Good bye for now
Blessings!!!------------------
Why have a finely manicured lawn and be crying on the inside?
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 01:16 PM
They could...but it is, sadly, their weakness that puts them off. For instance, people leaving because of Valus was just incomprehensible to me. You're going to throw away all of your connection because you don't like one person? Seems a bit overblown. Value his input over that of yourself and all your friends? Why would you do that? I'm reminded of Quinnie's thread in LLC2 right now. Right?BUT, if enough of the leaders of this site really had that huge of an issue, then that would warrant discussion of a suspension or something. IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 1700
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 01:23 PM
Human nature isn`t fickle, it`s predictable.  That incident is incomprehensible to me as well. But it happened/happens. My Saturn in Libra and Aqua sun wants and sometimes demands, fairness and justice for all. If the folks can`t give it to themselves, who`s gonna. It`s an issue much larger than I can comprehend sometimes but I keep working at it. ------------------
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 01:24 PM
That's a good place for Saturn.IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 7739
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 01:51 PM
Well, a lot of things seem to be incomprehensible to you, AG, but I face those things every day. We lost a decent number of members over Valus (a few came back after he left). My inbox was inundated with complaints about him. Your hypthesis of self-governance failed in that real-life test. In my opinion, he was abrasive, and he stayed on the edge, but he didn't cross the line (well, he did a couple of times and was warned). So, I ignored the concensus of the masses, and many of them ignored or shunned him. Public opinion is important to me, and I do listen, but ultimately I make decisions based on what I feel is right. I'm human, and I make mistakes, but with few exceptions, it has always worked to be in the best interests of Lindaland. The times that I allowed Ego or anger to cloud my judgment, I apologized for. This is not one of those times. I'm not the least bit angry. And, yes, this is a business. Lindaland is owned by a corporation, and it is not a nonprofit. Democracy was brought into the discussion, because you seem to think we should have no rules and self-governence. We have many leaders here; we call them Moderators. Perhaps, reposting the Agreement everyone consents to upon sign-up should be done here. If anyone disagrees to these rules of decorum, then that person really shouldn't be here. Because the rules do exist. And they are observed. And they are enforced (even if lightly at first). See below:If you agree to abide by our rules below, you should press the "Agree" button, which will enable you to register. If you do not agree, press the "Cancel" button.
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 7739
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 01:54 PM
Are you saying Facebook isn't a business, AG--because it's a social site? ------------------
"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 02:14 PM
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it has always worked to be in the best interests of Lindaland.
I don't think you're credible when talking about what's best for Lindaland, because by and large you don't understand that people are paramount. quote:
Are you saying Facebook isn't a business, AG--because it's a social site?
Are you saying your site makes money? Facebook, if you'll kindly notice contains the ability of any individual user to opt out of any relationship with anyone. Also, with regard to the business aspect, you'll note that advertising AND businesses play a MUCH larger role in that site than they do here. EDIT: Yes, I didn't touch the Valus issue, because I've already said my piece on it. People needed to get a grip. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 02:25 PM
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I don't think you're credible when talking about what's best for Lindaland, because by and large you don't understand that people are paramount.
AG
How can one person call another person a piece of **** and Randall allow it,FOR EXAMPLE?
THAT IS CARING FOR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 02:25 PM
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 02:27 PM
We are SAFE here cuz Randall stands up when one person swears at another,for example.
If not, there would be animal anarchy.
THEN, LL would lose everyone who is decent.------------------
In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 02:27 PM
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 02:28 PM
We have tons of wonderful people .here.Open your eyes,AG.
They are here cuz it is SAFE.------------------
In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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juniperb
Moderator Posts: 1700
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 02:30 PM
Maybe the or my point is, some are not safe from their selves hence need for moderation? The adage I believe in is give a person enough rope and they will hang them self. ------------------
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 02:33 PM
AG
Randall IS LL. Randall runs LL.Randall provides LL so YOU and I and everyone can even talk about this stuff.
Respect him,AG
Respect what you have been given ,freely.
If YOU are so strong and wise, go make a site and run it as you want.
Blessings.Forgive my ire,AG.
I feel passionate about this!------------------
In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 02:37 PM
That adage works for self-moderation, though. I mean, that adage is self-moderation at its core.Ami, loads of great, very nice people have left, and left because of the "protector." Your ire is noted, but only as forgiveable as someone calling someone else a name. And there's no commanding me. As I said before, sometimes we have to carry the grace for people that don't carry it themselves, especially when we know them to be better people than they are in an isolated instance. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2011 02:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by AcousticGod:
That adage works for self-moderation, though. I mean, that adage is self-moderation at its core.Ami, loads of great, very nice people have left, and left because of the "protector." Your ire is noted, but only as forgiveable as someone calling someone else a name. As I said before, sometimes we have to carry the grace for people that don't carry it themselves, especially when we know them to be better people than they are in an isolated instance.
Disagree,AG
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