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Topic: Self-Moderation
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 7739
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 10:28 AM
  
If someone posts a string that you strongly disagree with and can't curb your temper, then it's best to ignore it. The OP expects a modicum level of control over the topics he/she starts. ------------------
"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Just a suggestion, but if people make a basically respectful post to begin with, MOST of the time people will not start flaming each other...However... there are exceptions... Like my post about Marijuana and about Death Predictions in Astrology...
It is more inherent to the people rather than necessarily related to the topic when a thread turns nasty,in my humble opinion.
I add humble in deference to Pire  ------------------
In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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abcd efg
Knowflake Posts: 237
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Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 22, 2011 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
If someone posts a string that you strongly disagree with and can't curb your temper, then it's best to ignore it. The OP expects a modicum level of control over the topics he/she starts.
I agree to this. If we find the thread being started as downright disgusting then we can, apart from ignoring it, strongly and firmly oppose it without hitting below the belt. And even if we do so in the heat of the moment (this can happen no doubt) we can always acknowledge our mistake later(obviously not to the initiator of the thread but to the admin). We cannot have 'no boundaries' structure even in social circles. We have to have some limits. 'I don't care' attitude generates disrespect and that is a bad precedent. Many others will follow suite and things will go haywire in the long run. I believe that if not out of respect then at least out of love for our circle we could step back. Neither respect nor love is bound to attract adverse judgement. Hhhmmmmmmmm.... I am Sorry here as i have no intention of taking anybody's side or interfering in anyone's personal opinions. But in the last month since i joined here i have observed quite a few of these things. It makes me feel sad. As we are available on Google search everybody and anybody gets access to this. Imagine all this under linda goodman search. Sad.
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 11:24 AM
RogueGuru, I'm glad you see the irony in your statement.  Here's some white noise for you: Miike Snow - Animal abcd efg, please read this entire thread, and understand that an "I don't care" attitude is simply defiance in the face of sadism. You're oversimplifying if you believe I'm endorsing chaos. I'm the last person that would endorse anarchy. Much much worse has happened in the past. It's kind of inherent in the site, and probably a good representation of Linda's Aries spirit mixed with the Scorpio spirit of this site. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 11:24 AM
Dear abcd efg
You have beautiful sentiments but I believe people are gonna fight cuz that is how we are as people--flawed.
It seems that each fight is a stepping stone to a better and more spiritual site.
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In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 11:29 AM
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abcd efg, please read this entire thread, and understand that an "I don't care" attitude is simply defiance in the face of sadism.
Sadism
Boyfriend
Look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls  ------------------
In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
If someone posts a string that you strongly disagree with and can't curb your temper, then it's best to ignore it. The OP expects a modicum level of control over the topics he/she starts.
Alrighty. I'm cool with this if THIS kind of thought will be applied to my threads. Even Ami Anne was jumping in with the lynching mob, any time I post an unpopular thread... Little help then. But, if the standards applied to Coffee will be applied to my unpopular threads, where I am personally attacked - GREAT  IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 12:19 PM
This will be a GREAT new day at Lindaland... no more personal attacking anyone... even on a thread that reads:"I like to do death predictions, here's why..." I'm excited. Don't have to worry about any judgment or having to fight of a bunch of angry, screaming people anymore. The best part is, I'll start my threads seriously, WITHOUT the intent of making people angry, because I actually want to discuss the topic  IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 12:23 PM
Hopefully, the moderation will be consistent. The only damage I see in this is inconsistent moderation from the top, down. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 7739
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 12:39 PM
Not saying you won't get opposition. Just no personal insults. That's an embarassment to have on the site. If things get heated, a Mod will issue a reminder. If that doesn't work, I will issue a warning. If you blatantly disregard my warning, you will be banned. I am not doing it; you will be doing it to yourself. Blow-ups happen. But do heed a warning if received. Don't b*tch, moan, complain, or whine. Take responsibility for your actions. If that's your idea of a dictatorship, then anyone who disagrees can deal with it or find a better fit elsewhere. It is a grave disservice to those who come to Lindaland in the right spirit to have to put up with contention caused by and supported by just a few people. Don't ignore a warning...unless you want to be banned. But there will be a warning first.IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 12:47 PM
I'm not afraid of opposition. It's the personal insults that have been made to me over the past few months that bug me... especially if things should stay impersonal... whereas we're not making statements like..."You guys are low-lives" Or, "So and so is evil..." Or, "You're immoral, unethical, lack character, etc." Those are all personal attacks. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 12:52 PM
However, I would like to be in an environment where the moderators issue warnings for personal insults, and I will most certainly defend others, that way...I also hope to be defended, too IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 12:56 PM
This will definitely be an interesting experience of replicating the idea of "freedom" and "justice" here on the site... where "blind justice" and "freedom for all" should play out...No discrimination, group politics, and bias. Just simple boundaries... IP: Logged |
abcd efg
Knowflake Posts: 237
From:
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 22, 2011 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
T.... "I like to do death predictions, here's why..."
OK. Going off the topic. Where do you do them? I mean you have any other contact point because i would like mine.  Don't worry i am not the kind to be affected adversely or something by this. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 7739
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 01:06 PM
A gentle reminder should be given first. And then a warning. I am going to add that to the sign-up Agreement. But this Forum will have more latitude, which is why it was created...to isolate those more heated topics. Juni or myself will decide what warrants a warning here.IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by abcd efg:
OK. Going off the topic. Where do you do them? I mean you have any other contact point because i would like mine. Don't worry i am not the kind to be affected adversely or something by this.
Now, seriously don't laugh when I say, I really DO have ethical issues lingering about giving readings, at all... BUT... I have looked into them, and considered them for a few people... I also don't mind discussing the issue. I've had people ask me for death predictions. I would also read a thread about death predictions... I'm complicated Also, I am not actively giving readings, at all, at this time. But, a lot of vedic astrologers will, and there are a few other astrologers here who may do it for you IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 01:19 PM
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Don't b*tch, moan, complain, or whine. Take responsibility for your actions.
Aren't you b!tching, moaning, complaining, and whining about the responses YOU elicit (i.e. the defiance)? You expect people to just accept your superior assessment of the situation, but you wouldn't/won't accept another person's superior assessment of the situation. You get what you give. You reap what you sow. This is why you don't get respect from all quarters. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 7739
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 01:30 PM
Nope, not at all. You are free to your opinions. But objections to the rules won't change a thing. I should have stuck to my guns after previous fights, but I laxed up. My bad. Some people need structure and clear boundaries.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 01:39 PM
Yes, you are. You expect from others what you don't offer yourself.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 01:47 PM
AG
The HEAD IS THE HEAD.God made man to need a leader.Every group of man has a leader from the family to the city to the state to the country.
WITHOUT a strong head, the body suffers.
That is life,AG.
I say that with love,not rancor. It is life!
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In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 5197
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 01:50 PM
Randall is not my head. He's not your head either. He's virtually nobody's head.What's more, he instigates unconsciously, and then blames the other person for reacting poorly to him. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 01:54 PM
It's also a point why the world is not run by 1 man, but many men and women, with a system of checks and balances???Part of the problem is that as moderators, hands seem tied, there are no clear rules, and no one seems to be effective in their positions, maybe except for Juni... There has been too much change, small rebuilding, a little span of peace, then BOOM, one bad thread, a lot of angry people, no clear rules... another person banned... suddenly, NEW RULES. Ever see parents part-time parent their kids? This is what happens when there is no consistency, and a group of mods have no idea what the heck they are supposed to do, what is normal, what is expected, etc - and, in the midst of that moderators are attacking each other. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 8760
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 01:58 PM
I know what to do,PS.
YOU may not but don't speak for ME,please.
What you do is to try to hold yourself and LL to the standards of integrity and character it deserves.
Since we are all human, we ,all,fail as we try to meet that goal with our human flaws going in the other direction.
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In this world,you will have tribulation but do not fear I have overcome the world.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 7739
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 01:59 PM
That's what I'm doing here, PS. Clear rules from here on out. Structure. Boundaries. I am amending the Agreement for new sign-ups. And I'm about to post a string in LLC2 with the new guidelines. That way, no one can say they didn't know. They will be enforced. The petty instigating and high school drama stops from here on out.------------------
"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 4158
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I know what to do,PS.
YOU may not but don't speak for ME,please.
I wasn't SPEAKING for YOU, Ami ANNE. Please don't assume anything about me, unless you intend to be irritating.
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