posted March 11, 2012 06:01 PM            

The Occupier crowd was supposed to help O'Bomber and demoscats with all their talk of the 99% and the 1%.

The drooling O'Bomber press did everything they could to keep the communist banners and bumper sticker communist demands off the pages of their papers and out of view of network broadcasters viewing audiences...and give them favorable press.

Didn't work. These weasels no longer control what Americans hear, read and see.

When more and more Americans saw who and what these people were really all about, public opinion turned against them and they began to hurt demoscat Mayors who had embraced them, hurt demoscat politicians who spoke nice things about them and who were running for reelection and hurt O'Bomber who had also spoken nice things about them.

That's why the money dried up and they were thrown under the bus. Their usefulness to demoscats ended and they became expendable.

Don't be surprised...if video of demoscats praising the Occupier crowd and O'Bomber doing so too...show up in campaign commercials with pictures of the communist banners and the lists of absurd demands these jerks made. It's exactly what I would do to tie these people to demoscats up for reelection...including O'Bomber.

posted March 12, 2012 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I think it was the national news on one of the Atlanta stations. I heard the plug only and should have listened to the rest, but I was channel surfing.

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posted March 18, 2012 08:42 AM            

Seems some got a clue on how to protest and others never learn .

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Protester Paul Sylvester, 24, of Massachusetts said he was "thrilled" to be back at the park but said he hoped the movement would begin to crystallize around specific goals.

"We need to be more concrete and specific," he said. Critics say the Occupy movement lacks direction and clear demands.

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As they have in past marches, protesters led police on a series of cat-and-mouse chases. Marchers at the front of the crowd would suddenly turn down narrow side streets, startling tourists and forcing police to send officers on motor scooters to contain the crowd.

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Ah for the old days and the Peace Marchs, Sit Ins and Flower Power

posted March 18, 2012 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Why is this so hard for you to understand?

The Occupier crowd was supposed to help O'Bomber and demoscats with all their talk of the 99% and the 1%.

The drooling O'Bomber press did everything they could to keep the communist banners and bumper sticker communist demands off the pages of their papers and out of view of network broadcasters viewing audiences...and give them favorable press.

Didn't work. These weasels no longer control what Americans hear, read and see.

When more and more Americans saw who and what these people were really all about, public opinion turned against them and they began to hurt demoscat Mayors who had embraced them, hurt demoscat politicians who spoke nice things about them and who were running for reelection and hurt O'Bomber who had also spoken nice things about them.

That's why the money dried up and they were thrown under the bus. Their usefulness to demoscats ended and they became expendable.

Don't be surprised...if video of demoscats praising the Occupier crowd and O'Bomber doing so too...show up in campaign commercials with pictures of the communist banners and the lists of absurd demands these jerks made. It's exactly what I would do to tie these people to demoscats up for reelection...including O'Bomber.

But, weren't you just a very short time ago..(hours) questioning Randall about where he got the information the Occupiers were going broke? That was you wasn't it katatonic?

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posted March 18, 2012 11:10 AM            

yes i did ask randall, so what? why should i just take for truth anything that randall, who is one of the haters of the OWSers, says about them?

or your in detail analyses, for that matter, jwhop? do you know ANYone connected to the obama campaign that you can speak for them? i don't, but i don't see the OWSers going anywhere either.

wishful thinking can be warpful thinking..

and i'm sure there will be plenty of dirt for both sides to fling during the campaign, jwhop. it's hardly a parade of saints, is it? you really should be a campaign manager, you have just the right instinct for tasteless smear tactics. but what goes around comes around, eh wot?

posted March 18, 2012 11:33 AM            

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[b]But, weren't you just a very short time ago..(hours) questioning Randall about where he got the information the Occupiers were going broke? That was you wasn't it katatonic?

yes i did ask randall, so what? why should i just take for truth anything that randall, who is one of the haters of the OWSers, says about them?

or your in detail analyses, for that matter, jwhop? do you know ANYone connected to the obama campaign that you can speak for them? i don't, but i don't see the OWSers going anywhere either.

wishful thinking can be warpful thinking..

and i'm sure there will be plenty of dirt for both sides to fling during the campaign, jwhop. it's hardly a parade of saints, is it? you really should be a campaign manager, you have just the right instinct for tasteless smear tactics. but what goes around comes around, eh wot?

yes, joan was right, some here appear to feel very threatened by their fellow americans expressing thoughts they don't like. nothing new there, in the land of the free.[/B]

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posted March 18, 2012 12:31 PM            

"yes i did ask randall, so what? why should i just take for truth anything that randall, who is one of the haters of the OWSers, says about them?"...katatonic

If you wanted to know where Randall heard or saw that the Occupier crowd is going broke or is almost broke; why didn't you do what any rational person would do and simply type...."Occupy Wall Street almost broke"...in ANY of the search engines available?

If you had, you would have found it all right in front of your own eyes. Not that you would believe the evidence of your own eyes katatonic.

Best evidence you don't believe the evidence of what your own eyes show you katatonic is that....you're still attempting to argue the issue...even after I showed you the stories from Forbes and even from U.S.News & World Report...which is not now and never has been a bastion of Republican thought and most certainly not Republican Conservative thought.

When I said the Occupiers are Marxist Socialist Progressives and Anarchists, you rejected that..along with NJ. So I showed you the pictures of their Communist banners and absurd communist inspired demands.

When I said they were trashing city parks, squatting on the premises without permits and that their encampments were vermin laden infestations which represented a hazard to the health of other citizens; that too was rejected. So, I showed you the pictures and the stories.

Now, you and NJ are attempting to make the argument that if I haven't inspected the Occupier books, haven't been on the premises they've squatted on for my own personal inspection...that I can't know what the hell I'm talking about...Randall either.

You're attempting to make the very same argument someone else here attempted with me about Hitler being a Socialist...Mussolini too. Even though BOTH were Socialists, said they were Socialists and writings from Hitler's own book said he IS..now past tense..was; this unmentioned party attempted to make the argument that Hitler and Mussolini must have been lying about their Socialism and I'd never personally talked to Hitler...or Mussolini...so I never asked them the question or got their answer from their own mouths...and therefore, I couldn't say Hitler...and Mussolini were Socialists.

Absurd arguments katatonic. Just as absurd as your own and NJ's that the Occupiers are just a bunch of well meaning Idealists trying to make a "better world" and that the pictures of their vermin ridden trashed encampments must be falsified or phony in some way and the same for the Communist banners and chanting. All false!

posted March 18, 2012 04:25 PM            

Gee katatonic, I don't know how to break this news to you. Perhaps I shouldn't and let you continue in your delusion about the Communists, Socialists, Progressives and the KGB.

Oh what the hell. Even the delusional have a right to hear the truth...and perhaps have their delusions cured.

The last day the KGB existed was December 25th, 1991. How about that katatonic. The Soviet Union was officially dissolved on Christmas Day in 1991!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union

So, I didn't expect to see any KGB agents at the Occupy Wall Street fiasco.

They say a Picture is worth a thousand words katatonic. I tend to agree with that statement. But, this isn't merely a (1) one picture. It's a video of a Communist, Raymond Lotta, addressing the Occupy Wall Street crowd.

For those of you with good enough eyesight to read the writing on the cover of the phamphlet he's holding..."Constitution for the New Socialist Republic in North America".. and stomachs strong enough to withstand the bilge and bile coming out of Lotta's mouth and the document he's displaying at the Occupy Wall Street "occupation". Read on, See on!

Otherwise, this is a good time to tune out and stop here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL66qNZBkC8

CONSTITUTION For the New Socialist Republic In North America (Draft Proposal)
From the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA
http://www.revcom.us/Constitution/constitution.html

posted March 18, 2012 06:53 PM            

since when does that make all the protesters communists, or even dupes of said commies? it doesn't. it makes him an opportunist, not really any evidence for anything else, even the signs you saw (on a fox video? so perhaps footage swapped from something else, since fox doesn't care what pics it shows to back up its stories?).

you seem to think this is my chosen cause. i merely brought it to your attention when there was no media coverage on it.

sorry jwhop, i am not scared of the Occupiers, OR the teabaggers; they all have a right to their voices as far as i am concerned. they are not shaping policy but expressing dissatisfaction. they all have their stupidos too. some people just can't resist a protest...just different stripes on the same shirt.

posted March 18, 2012 07:14 PM            

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no worries ami, it's not i who is upset. just pointing out that what i say to randall is between me and randall and what jwhop says is a load of dung, nothing new to get upset about..

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Anyhoo I come on and make my small contribution by telling Jwhop and others who know what they are talking about--Go Baby.
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posted March 19, 2012 10:27 AM            

"Welcome to the American Spring" (Max Berger, Huffington Post)

"This week, the American Spring began. You may not have heard much about it yet, because the media seem mostly to have missed it (much as they missed the original occupation of Wall Street at first). But the seeds of the occupation have started to flower into a movement reborn.

Last night, the cracks in the surface began to show. Hundreds of mostly young people came together for a few brief, beautiful hours to celebrate the six-month anniversary of the occupation of Wall Street. On St. Patrick's Day, a night usually associated with mischief and drunken debauchery, we met in a public park to connect with each other and reestablish the bonds that hold our community together. It was a celebration of what's best in America -- civic community, freedom of association, self-expression -- and an indication that the American Spring will be as big as last fall.

But, last night I also saw the worst of America. The movement to restore democracy may find a willing public, but it will be violently opposed by Wall Street and their cronies in elected office. Instead of protecting, or celebrating, a generation of young people fighting to restore hope to our nation's future, I saw police do everything they could to suppress our right to express ourselves and gather freely.

I saw dozens of peaceful protesters violently choked, stomped on, and beaten with night sticks. I saw police wantonly beat retreating protesters trying to escape. I saw a woman get sent to the hospital after police brutally beat her and left her seizing on the ground. I saw the first broken window of Occupy Wall Street; ironically, it came from police smashing it with a protester's head. Coming on the heels of recent reports of police infiltration and monitoring of the Occupy movement, it was a chilling vision of what democracy looks like in America...

We have always been a nation where our legally afforded rights are only as valuable as our ability to fight for them...But, crucially, it's also part of the long struggle within the soul of our nation founded as a beacon of freedom with millions in slavery. Our democracy only works if each generation takes up the struggle to build a more just and humane world.

posted March 26, 2012 08:10 PM            

Pictures of Revolutionary Communists marching with their banners drew denials from NJ and katatonic. In fact, all news stores and pictures of the rat and disease infested Occupier camps were also denied..as being fraudulant and not true.

Here's another for the deniers to deny.

Communists, occupiers infiltrate Sanford Trayvon rally
Published: 7:34 PM 03/26/2012
Matthew Boyle
The Daily Caller

Communist Party sign lies on the grass in Sanford, Fla.

Monday (TheDC)
SANFORD, Fla. — Representatives of the Revolutionary Communist Party USA were on scene at a rally Monday to honor slain 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

On the ground before them laid a giant banner that read: “17 Afghans, Trayvon Martin murdered: The System of Capitalism-Imperialism set these crimes in motion.”

“There’s an underlying economic system that we live under,” Joey Johnson, member of the Communist Party and writer for the Revolution newspaper, told The Daily Caller. “Fundamentally, what exists in the United States is not democracy, but capitalism and imperialism and the political structures to enforce that capitalism and imperialism. It’s a modern day version of the haves and have-nots, the many being exploited by the few.”

“It’s the stuff that ‘Occupy’ has been talking about, the one percent, the big finance capitalists who exploit people all over the planet,” he added. “What we’re trying to do is bring out the reality of that and connect it with the murder of Trayvon Martin.”

Johnson said he thinks it’s a good idea for Occupy movement protesters to join with “Justice for Trayvon” protesters. Before he came here to Sanford, he said he was part of a protest in Northern California with about 600 occupiers and “Justice for Trayvon” protesters.

Communist recruiters asked people for personal information to sign them up for alerts as other CPA USA volunteers roamed the approximately 2,000-person crowd, distributing party literature. One such flyer was a statement from the Communist Party about the Trayvon Martin case.

That statement tries to connect Trayvon Martin to the case of Emmett Till, a young black teen who was killed decades ago for reportedly whistling at a white woman. The Communist Party warns people that Trayvon Marton’s case is “only the latest of an endless chain of such acts that are perpetrated, condoned and covered up by the powers-that-be.”

posted March 27, 2012 02:22 PM            

i don't recall saying those pictures WERE frauds, however with fox being oh-so-willing to substitute footage of greeks to illustrate russian riots, clever camera work making tea party rallies look bigger than they are, etc etc etc, forgive me if i QUESTION their veracity.

oh and the latest attempt to depict a moment of stalling for time by obama as selling us out to russia, lordy some people's imaginations are riotous for sure.

even if communists are feeling sympathy with/from the occupiers, that does not mean they ARE the occupiers, just that they are being tolerated rather than EQUATED WITH THE DEVIL as you try to do.

has it ever occurred to you that as much as you DISAGREE with someone they might actually have THEIR hearts in the right place too?

i am done with this very long argument. there is no point in continuing it from where i sit. you consistently overreact and distort people's comments to suit your own ends and show no interest in actually understanding ANYTHING except WHAT JWHOP WANTS.

posted March 27, 2012 11:45 PM            

It's been obvious to me from the start that you not only tolerate these kinds of leftist twits, jerks, morons and idiots but they're part of your crowd.

That was one of the reasons I got a good laugh when you described yourself as a "conservative".

posted March 28, 2012 06:50 AM            

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overthrow the United States, the US Constitution, US law, the rule of law,

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Ridiculous, and far from the truth as per usual.....

If you love the constitution so much then why do you support the team that tries amending that sacred document year after year?

Often with dozens of proposed ammendments....

I wonder why your crowd feel so threatened by civil protest, to the point that the old bugaboo COMMUNIST....is being used.

Oh, and by your crowd I am speaking of those who never made it past the cold war.

If you are happy with the fact that you, and all of the rest of us were stolen from, to the tune of trillions, keep your head in the sand. If you like our democratic system [bought and paid for thank you very much] to represent the minority and not the majority, keep your head well buried.

personally I wish demonizing would loose it's cachet with JW. Demonizing anyone or any group who just happens to disagree.

Sermon after reposted sermon, ad nauseum for years.

ignorance needs exposure for what it is, and truth needs a little air time too.

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wonder who signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history? Why #43 of course.

In fact all of those allegations attributed to a movement that questions authority are check rated by #43
~just sayin'

posted March 28, 2012 02:02 PM            

just a hop skip and jump for you, jwhop, why don't you try it yourself? i hear they throw people with the balls to protest in prison over there, or used to...even cuba is changing, unlike yourself. then again, i understand one only needs to go as far as miami to experience the OLD cuba, run by mafia style bosses and cocaine dealers...

meanwhile the lifestyle in usa ranks below most of those "gulags" you're afraid of becoming. including LUXEMBOURG fgs..

Quality of Life rankings by country 2010
1.France
2.Australia,
3.Switzerland,
4.Germany
5. New Zealand
... 6. Luxembourg
7. United States
8. Belgium
9. Canada
10. Italy
http://internationalliving.com/2010/01/2010-quality-of-life-index-194-countri es-ranked-and-rated/