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Ami Anne
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posted August 21, 2012 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
I love the special clowns that preform in the Children`s Hospital.

They are gentle, funny and the kids just love them. Especially the ones with the big red lipsticked mouths and goofy hair.


Well, more power to someone who wants to be a clown

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posted August 21, 2012 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, more power to someone who wants to be a clown


Indeed. I have great admiration for the hospital clowns. It has to be a serious and kind person to do it for the children.

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posted August 21, 2012 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
clowns - like comedians - tend to be super sensitive, super bright people who use humour and pathos to comment on our condition...life...

in the courts of kings the royal jester was often the ONLY person who could get away with telling the truth..

without them life would be much poorer.

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posted August 22, 2012 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, I almost lost your question.

quote:
How is Iran a threat to the whole world

I did not say it was a "threat" to the whole world.


quote:
The obvious fallout of an Israel/Iran blow up IS a direct threat to the U.S.. And the stability of every country on the globe.

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posted August 22, 2012 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.” Rep. Todd Akin

That's my vote.

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posted August 22, 2012 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ghani, I suspect that will be on the next Dumbest Political Quote story.

Political suicide if I ever saw it unfold .


Conservative or Dem, there is simply no defence for his backassward thought process.
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posted August 22, 2012 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is it a threat to the stability of every country on earth?

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posted August 22, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 22, 2012 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably one of the most ignorant and poorly spoken statements by a public figure. I don't think this can be argued, and even Romney has stated he can't defend that comment.

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posted August 23, 2012 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
How is it a threat to the stability of every country on earth?


I believe there are numerous reasons.

A domino effect would be in place. Fear is a huge factor, retaliation and sides being taken ( do we really trust Putin??)China`s dependence on oil (do we trust them & N Korea), radiation from a nuke. Personally I see this affecting the globe in a very negative way

Not very political reasons but reasons I see.

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posted August 23, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
clowns - like comedians - tend to be super sensitive, super bright people who use humour and pathos to comment on our condition...life...

in the courts of kings the royal jester was often the ONLY person who could get away with telling the truth..

without them life would be much poorer.



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posted August 23, 2012 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How quickly demoscat forget. Or is it rank hypocrisy which makes demoscats jump all over a republican who has been repudiated by every other republican in the known universe...but ignore one of their own loud mouthed offenders?

I vote hypocrisy!

Senator Famous for Joking About Rape Campaigns for Obama, Biden
12:29 PM, Aug 23, 2012
By DANIEL HALPER


Earlier this week, Senator Al Franken of Minnesota joined Vice President Joe Biden for a campaign event in Minnesota.

"Biden got plenty of support from Minnesota Democrats," PostBulletin.com reports. "Sen. Al Franken praised Obama for pushing the health care law, saying it will help more seniors get help paying for prescriptions and will ensure Medicare's solvency for an additional eight years."

But before Franken was a senator he was a writer on the TV show Saturday Night Live. Then, he famously joked about raping CBS reporter Lesley Stahl.

As New York magazine reported in 1995, from a writing session that the reporter sat in on:

Franken: “And, ‘I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then, when Lesley’s passed out, I take her to the closet and rape her.’ Or, ‘That’s why you never see Lesley until February.’ Or, ‘When she passes out, I put her in various positions and take pictures of her.’”

With the national conversation now turning to women's issues as a result of the bizarre and offensive comments by Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin over the weekend, it seems a bit odd that Vice President Biden would take the stage with Franken, considering his own lack of sensitivity to the horrors of rape.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/senator-famous-joking-about-rape-campaigns-obama-biden_650609.html

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posted August 23, 2012 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the elephant never forgets, does it? or forgives.

a comedian is not a politician (until he stops being a comedian) and intentional JOKES are not campaign promises...or shouldn't be.

the difference, jwhop, is that akin was not being intentionally stupid or offensive, and CERTAINLY NOT JOKING. he just happens to believe offensive and stupid things.

and that is a BIG difference.

all the same i am glad he stood his ground and didn't let the machine sacrifice him.

of course yesterday the radio was full of clips of ryan quoting obama on the incident, "rape is rape"...joke enough, but doesn't really make up for the fact that akin was RYAN'S partner in drawing up medieval anti-abortion bills...

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posted August 23, 2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I seriously hope you are not referring to ME as a democrat, jwhop, and are merely generally lashing out at the public "democratic party" in your outrageously off base response post.

As I have told you before, I am neither Rep or Dem.

And my response to your asinine retort mirrors kat's. The attempt by the conservative article you posted, and any other person that is seriously trying to grasp at straws to compare what Akin said to jokes written by a comedian YEARS ago is so laughable.

Akin IS a politician and said what he did, ignorantly quoting fanciful medical horsepuckey, as a politician, NOT a comedian.

Wow. Just when you think the bottom of the barrel can't possibly be scraped further...

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posted August 23, 2012 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Al.."The Loudmouth" Franken actually talks about personally raping a well known reporter...then posing her for pictures...and gets a pass from demoscats.

Figures!

Akin makes a medical mistake...doesn't talk about personally raping anyone and demoscats attempt to tie him personally to Romney and Ryan...even though every republican in the known universe has repudiated him personally and what he said and additionally tried to get him to withdraw from the Missouri Senate race.

Again..it figures!

And, here's Al.."LoudMouth" Franken campaigning with Joe "Gaffomatic" O'Biden when it's well known what Franken said about Leslie Stahl.

Gross hypocrisy..when demoscats are trying to make a campaign issue out of Akin's comment.

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posted August 23, 2012 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Yeah Al.."The Loudmouth" Franken actually talks about personally raping a well known reporter...then posing her for pictures...and gets a pass from demoscats.

Figures!

Akin makes a medical mistake...doesn't talk about personally raping anyone and demoscats attempt to tie him personally to Romney and Ryan...even though every republican in the known universe has repudiated him personally and what he said and additionally tried to get him to withdraw from the Missouri Senate race.

Again..it figures!

And, here's Al.."LoudMouth" Franken campaigning with Joe "Gaffomatic" O'Biden when it's well known what Franken said about Leslie Stahl.

Gross hypocrisy..when demoscats are trying to make a campaign issue out of Akin's comment.



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posted August 23, 2012 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a) i am not a democrat
b) i am not endorsing franken's poor taste jokes, nor did i hear or see them
c) the very fact that he was joking even if in poor taste means he didn't mean it, therefore no laugh but no intent=00000000
d) it is typical of men to want abortion abolished, and typical of men to not bother to THINK about a "medical mistake" like that...

BUT TELL ME HOW DOES A MAN GET TO BE AS OLD AS AKIN AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT CAUSES CONCEPTION?

like i said, i am glad he didn't buckle to party politics, but ryan has a vested interest in this, his partner in bill-proposing, exposing himself for a bigmouthed know-nothing.

he also exposed his belief that women are so desirous of abortions that they will lie that they were raped in states where that is one of the only reasons allowed.

hint to men: most women will avoid an abortion except as a last resort. many have babies by fathers they have realized were no good because otherwise they would feel like murderers. abortion is NOT SOMETHING ONE GOES THROUGH WHISTLING DIXIE!

meanwhile ryan still holds his CATHOLIC opinion of abortion. a catholic doctor, if following his religion's precepts, will save the baby if there is a choice between mother and baby...the mother is already baptized, but the baby's soul is still not pledged to the Church; for this reason my catholic mother sought out a jewish doctor to oversee her deliveries...

now we have a new hampshire sheriff saying he would arrest anyone he caught performing an abortion, using deadly force if necessary (though as a last resort, THANKS A LOT) TO PROTECT THE LIFE OF A CITIZEN.

newsflash, you have to be BORN IN AMERICA to be a citizen (or naturalized of course), but you are not a citizen BEFORE BIRTH.

he has, of course, apologized for suggesting he would use DEADLY force, but not for the rest of his statement...one would think that any force, or even staging an arrest while such procedure was going on, might threaten the life of a BORN citizen...ie the woman receiving it...

but this is incredible, whether about abortion or any other law...he basically means to operate on HIS opinion of what is "lawful" or not regardless of the LAW that a sheriff is elected to uphold...
Republican Frank Szabo of Goffstown had said he believes elective abortions, while legal, are not lawful and that he would arrest any doctor who performs them

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/NH-GOP-candidate-apologizes-fo r-abortion-comment-3809667.php#ixzz24PUjowTf

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posted August 23, 2012 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does a local sheriff have to do with Romney or Ryan..or the Catholic church?...Nothing!

Watches the crap you threw against the wall fall off.

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posted August 23, 2012 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ermm, the title of this thread is "dumbest political quotes of the week", and this sheriff comes in high up the list.

he is another republican who considers himself the arbiter of what is "lawful" or not, rather than the law.

and ryan and the catholic church have a GREAT DEAL to do with akin's blunder and attitude towards abortion.

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posted August 23, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ryan and the Catholic church have nothing whatsoever to do with what Akin said about rape or conception after rape. Nothing!

Do you even know what you're saying katatonic?

As for the dumb sheriff, I can't see too many mainstream republicans voting for anyone who thinks lethal force should be used to prevent abortion where abortion is legal.

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posted August 24, 2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you even know what you're saying katatonic?


GREAT question

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posted August 24, 2012 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the catholic church has much to do with this view regarding abortion. the Church wants all the new souls it can get, and never mind if the mother loses her LIFE let alone her health, if the baby can be saved, she will be sacrificed.

ryan, a catholic, has worked with akin on abortion bills and the republican platform apparently is aiming for NO abortion period, has been for years. while this is not LIMITED TO CATHOLICS, it is completely in line with the church's dogma.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-20/republican-platform-won-t-prot ect-mortgage-tax-deduction

what was basically wrong about akin's "misspeaking" was that he was defending this stance of the party's that abortion is just plain unacceptable no matter WHAT. and what upset so many republicans was that he opened the can of worms that is the republican position on abortion, including birth control such as morning after pills, even in cases of rape etc.

to call a zygote a citizen is stretching it, to absurdity, and infringing on the rights of the ACTUAL CITIZEN, the indisputably LIVING mother.

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posted August 26, 2012 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone who thinks rep Akin made a "mistake" hasn't been paying attention.

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Todd Akin deserves every bit of criticism he is getting, but he represents Willard Romney, Paul Ryan, and the entire Republican Party who have voted consistently to eliminate a woman’s right to choose. It is hypocritical of Romney and Ryan to distance themselves from Akin because his stance on women’s rights is their stance. Ryan has stood shoulder to shoulder with Akin in the House attempts at redefining rape, defunding Planned Parenthood, and giving a zygote the same rights as every living breathing American citizen, except women. Akin IS the Republican Party, and the Republican Party IS Todd Akin and they represent the dire circumstances every woman in America will face if they are victorious in November. It is impossible to isolate Akin from the rest of Republicans in Congress and GOP-controlled states because their voting records, plans for the future, and lowlife opinion of a woman’s right to choose ...

This is a campaign issue!

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posted August 26, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basically Akin outed his own party.

He turned the lights on.
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posted August 26, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nonsense.

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