posted July 08, 2013 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by pire:
. talking about Faith, well that is a reason why I don't suscribe to your way of thinking Faith, because Under the disguise of advancing ideals of freedom, you use the same rethoric and the same mechanics of fear than the others to push forward your ideas.

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Thanks, Mr. & for this vague but sweeping allegation. Thanks for lumping me in with unnamed "others."

What ideas of mine are you talking about, I wonder? Can you be more specific?

posted July 08, 2013 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks, Mr. & for this vague but sweeping allegation. Thanks for lumping me in with unnamed "others."

What ideas of mine are you talking about, I wonder? Can you be more specific?

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that's your life... and as I said, I am too busy in my real life to engage in conversations, in this instance, fruitless.

read again the quote you posted, I do not say that I want to help you or to change your way of thinking, I simply said WHY I do not subscribe to your way of thinking. for the rest, your rethoric use of FEAR and your faulty analysis and its reasons, that is really all your problem, nothing that I wished to change. that's your life.

posted July 08, 2013 03:51 PM            

So I speak Pluto.

posted July 08, 2013 03:54 PM            

although I beg to differ on flippant...

posted July 08, 2013 04:09 PM            

That's no criticism of you, Faith. Not at all. But I notice it's been a habit here at LL for so many years. I'm not sure why.

posted July 08, 2013 04:26 PM            

Right wing anything scares the heck out of me. Anyone or party that zealous will go to any length to gain power.

Shura, pluto on asc. for sure...

posted July 08, 2013 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
I'm thinking I might start dropping my astrological calling card too. Might help elucidate my posts? Explain my quirks and motivations? Buy me a defense? Worth a try.

That's no criticism of you, Faith. Not at all. But I notice it's been a habit here at LL for so many years. I'm not sure why

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My guess would be is that she's trying to help you understand where she's coming from since you're not making sense and obviously aren't getting her accurately, y'all are just making vague statements that I don't understand either with a lot of nasty insinuations implied (which tells me it's more about feelings than rational thought that you know wouldn't last if brought before the bench of reason, otherwise it would be clearer). That is, she's not the one who needs a defense for their behavior in this thread here.

posted July 08, 2013 05:18 PM            

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Does anyone here think I'm right wing?

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posted July 08, 2013 05:26 PM            

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Under the disguise of advancing ideals of freedom, you use the same rethoric and the same mechanics of fear than the others to push forward your ideas. but a political position that stands on the principle that democracy is in danger entertain the idea that democracy is endangered. if the discourse is based on being against the ennemy of democracy, then democracy is still at stake. whereas I want to support groups that have real faith in it, that do not fear for it, because they know they have not to fear something bad since they are the only responsible for its outcome...

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posted July 08, 2013 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Pire, I truely understand.

Right wing anything scares the heck out of me. Anyone or party that zealous will go to any length to gain power.

Shura, pluto on asc. for sure...

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Perhaps she was referencing something else but it appears to me she said she understood where you were coming from and that would seem to reference this:

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Originally posted by pire:
that's your life... and as I said, I am too busy in my real life to engage in conversations, in this instance, fruitless.

read again the quote you posted, I do not say that I want to help you or to change your way of thinking, I simply said WHY I do not subscribe to your way of thinking. for the rest, your rethoric use of FEAR and your faulty analysis and its reasons, that is really all your problem, nothing that I wished to change. that's your life.

edit: oh, I forgot, I owe you an unsincere &

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Which, btw, comes off feeling a lot like an Ami Anne post by making an emotional appeal that's vague, unclear, contemptuous of any who dare disagree with you, doesn't have to explain itself, and ending with a peace & love.

posted July 08, 2013 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
[B]Well it's an astrological community so I mention these things. Shura, I HAVE been curious about your chart and appreciate the input. If pire's Pisces Mercury is okay with the tangents, will you please tell me more about yourself? Sun sign especially Oh and are you male or female, pray tell?

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I understand why charts would be discussed in the astro forums, but I see it pop up randomly in other LL forums. "I'm a cappie therefore .." or worse, "you are a saggie, therefore .." I suppose it's just shorthand among the astrologically inclined? I'm working at a disadvantage because astrology is not my native language.
Again, not pointing the finger at you in particular(or Ami and her misfortunate Gemini placements either) I think I first questioned AG about this several years ago.
I'm a Scorpio girl. Ami can fill you in on my Eris placement

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Does anyone here think I'm right wing?

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Hell no.

posted July 08, 2013 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Pire, I truely understand.
Right wing anything scares the heck out of me. Anyone or party that zealous will go to any length to gain power.

Shura, pluto on asc. for sure...

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Pixiejane

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Perhaps she was referencing something else but it appears to me she said she understood where you were coming from and that would seem to reference this:

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And for the record, I do not think Faith is right wing and am confounded by the suggestion

posted July 08, 2013 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
My guess would be is that she's trying to help you understand where she's coming from since you're not making sense and obviously aren't getting her accurately, y'all are just making vague statements that I don't understand either with a lot of nasty insinuations implied (which tells me it's more about feelings than rational thought that you know wouldn't last if brought before the bench of reason, otherwise it would be clearer). That is, she's not the one who needs a defense for their behavior in this thread here.

In any case she hasn't deserved being jumped on like this, and I don't see her as right wing or extremist (and being opposed to Obama's abuses of power doesn't make one right wing extremist either, not unless you count the ACLU as right wing extremists).

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My peaceful Libra rising would like to again stress that I am not jumping on Faith. In fact, I'm rather fond of Faith's posts. I skim over many, but will make it a point to read hers. (I'm also a sucker for pire. It's a french thing.) Libra rising notwithstanding, my demonic Pluto asc says that if he and my additional five planets in Scorpio ever do attack, you'll know it.

posted July 08, 2013 06:34 PM            

I understood what Pire was saying and he seemed to understand me. Which neither of us was saying, much less thinking, Faith was right wing. Keeping with the astro theme, it must be pire and my left field Aquarius thinking getting each other

posted July 08, 2013 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Which, btw, comes off feeling a lot like an Ami Anne post by making an emotional appeal that's vague, unclear, contemptuous of any who dare disagree with you, doesn't have to explain itself, and ending with a peace & love.

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posted July 08, 2013 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Talk about Merc RX

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Seriously though.

posted July 08, 2013 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Keeping with the astro theme, it must be pire and my left field Aquarius thinking getting each other

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posted July 08, 2013 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
My peaceful Libra rising would like to again stress that I am not jumping on Faith. In fact, I'm rather fond of Faith's posts. I skim over many, but will make it a point to read hers. (I'm also a sucker for pire. It's a french thing.) Libra rising notwithstanding, my demonic Pluto asc says that if he and my additional five planets in Scorpio ever do attack, you'll know it.

This is fun! (saggie moon)

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