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jwhop
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posted August 30, 2013 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When murderous Islamic terrorists of the Assad, Hezbollah, Iranian set are fighting the murderous Al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood set; get the hell out of the way and let them kill each other.

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posted August 30, 2013 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yeah, and it would be nice if O'Bomber would tell us which group of murderous Islamic terrorists he's going to be supporting in Syria.

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posted August 30, 2013 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darn
It is good to have you back, Jwhop.

I have one dose of sanity a day with Rush.

Now, I can have another with you here.
Life is good, Peeps

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posted August 30, 2013 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami, is there any bigger hypocrite on earth than Barack Hussein O'Bomber?

Do you remember when O'Bomber said this...
“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,”

But now, that's exactly what the little Marxist Messiah is planning to do...launch an attack on another nation without the approval of Congress.

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posted August 30, 2013 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Hi Ami, is there any bigger hypocrite on earth than Barack Hussein O'Bomber?

Do you remember when O'Bomber said this...
[b]“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,”

But now, that's exactly what the little Marxist Messiah is planning to do...launch an attack on another nation without the approval of Congress.[/B]



Don't get me started Jwhop. I want to have lunch and not be sick to my stomach

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posted August 30, 2013 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is the biggest two-faced liar of all time. See my thread I am about to bump.

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Ami Anne
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posted August 30, 2013 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He is the biggest two-faced liar of all time. See my thread I am about to bump.

At least, it is a relief to talk to people who see it.

The low information person is a cancer to this country, eating away at the fabric of everything good and everything that makes the US special.

It makes me want to cry

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posted August 30, 2013 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A fire bombing mission without boots on the ground is like a guy wanting to have sex with his pants on while playing with himself without unzipping. Why even bother?

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posted August 30, 2013 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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A fire bombing mission without boots on the ground is like a guy wanting to have sex with his pants on while playing with himself without unzipping. Why even bother?

Man. What an analogy. Only you

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posted August 30, 2013 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, O'Bomber will wind up bombing a camel corral somewhere in the Syrian desert. Wouldn't want to take any action which might deter Assad from using Saddam's chemical weapons on Syrian civilians

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posted August 31, 2013 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^. Mustn't do that. It may hurt some camels and the resulting toxic fumes may cause greenhouse gases and erode the ozone layer.

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posted August 31, 2013 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm am i the only one finding it hard to believe that suddenly the US rulers are so concerned about the welfare of middle eastern civilians?

watch the illumanti approved day of 9-5 or is that 5-9 for ppl in the US.

Good to see that the UK has some spine though....would be nice if Hollande stops being an idiot for once this year as challenging as that may be for him.

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posted August 31, 2013 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a farce. He's going to Congress for approval. Congress is almost certainly going to decline.

Even if Congress approves, the entire element of surprise is gone, so bombing would be totally ineffective.

By now, I bet the chemical weapons are now in Baghdad, as they were moved from Baghdad to Damascus in the year of circus during the W '43 years.

Attacking is effectively mostly by surprise. Attacking now is a total waste of time.

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posted August 31, 2013 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hmmm am i the only one finding it hard to believe that suddenly the US rulers are so concerned about the welfare of middle eastern civilians?

^ This.

Where is the proof that it was Assad who unleashed the chemical weapons? Does anyone even bother asking for convincing evidence of anything anymore? Because we all have to pretty much assume we're only going to get propaganda from the fourth wing of government (mainstream media.)

Nobody really knows what's going on over there, but the US has a history of creating false flag events to provide a media storm of fake rhetoric and fake justification for going into battle "to protect the innocent."

Enough hypocrisy to make me literally sick.

And I was watching footage of the aftermath of the chemical attack in Syria today... images of deathly ill children spitting up poison or something, so I'm just depressed and can't shake the images from my head.

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posted September 01, 2013 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ [b]This.

Where is the proof that it was Assad who unleashed the chemical weapons? Does anyone even bother asking for convincing evidence of anything anymore? Because we all have to pretty much assume we're only going to get propaganda from the fourth wing of government (mainstream media.)

Nobody really knows what's going on over there, but the US has a history of creating false flag events to provide a media storm of fake rhetoric and fake justification for going into battle "to protect the innocent."

Enough hypocrisy to make me literally sick.

And I was watching footage of the aftermath of the chemical attack in Syria today... images of deathly ill children spitting up poison or something, so I'm just depressed and can't shake the images from my head.[/B]


you may like Putin's interview yesterday then.....he asked all what u said, but he is a president and of Russia, so more ppl would hear, or take notice.
He actually also stated why this happened. i'll try to find the translated interview.
That and quiet China which stays out of stuff not directly related to it has spoken up, shows someone is trying to start world war 3 of something.

YTA other sources said the chemicals actually came through Turkey...i will be surprised with all i hear from Turks if the PM there stays until next year...he ruined their economy, and is slowly taking away the secularisim they are so proud of....history shows they don't usually take it too well when someone annoys them to that extent...he even put military generals in jail, simply for trying to remove him and basically save their country from him...fun times.

here are snippets of it for yo Faith... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/31/syria-un-weapons-inspectors-leave

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posted September 01, 2013 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I would like to understand why this episode is so special when the world stood by and did nothing over the past dozen or so episodes.

The world never found justification to removing Sadaam over chemical weapons. Why all this fury over Assad?

I don't believe in fighting lightly. It is foolish. It's generally best not to fight. But if there is a need to fight, tgen fight to kill. Otherwise bite your lip and make peace.

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posted September 01, 2013 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

if my memory isn't failing me, they found a lot of natural gas on the coast from Syria till the North of Israel 2 or 3 years ago....

also such Europe is weaning itself off a lot of the energy it considers 'polluting' that maybe one of the last routes where it could get gas and oil it doesn't produce away from Russia.

Good to see the president of France, 'backing off' a little, such he found out his friends in England, like aren't so like interested in going to this party they like heard about....so he'll see
Syria isn't Mali, is what he doesn't seem to have noticed.

I do think that when super quiet China, which usually only speaks when it's direct interests are being threatened, has joined Russia, then it is a reason to reconsider...they sort of have all the production factories in the world on their land...so it is possible they can find a way to apply economic pressure on others.

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posted September 01, 2013 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just seen a report that rebels are now admitting they accidentally set off the gas themselves, not having any idea even what it was our how to handle it; and that it was supplied by the Saudis

Unfortunately the same article goes on to lecture that it happened because God was punishing them for their evil religion...which makes me wonder if the story itself is bogus...we shall see I guess.

Glad Obama decided to wait for Congress' deliberation

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posted September 01, 2013 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does Syria have that we want? Because the US doesn't fight just for humanitarian reasons. We used to.

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posted September 01, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What does Syria have that we want? Because the US doesn't fight just for humanitarian reasons. We used to.

Gas....and blocking the Russians last port of entry into the Mediterranean sea.

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posted September 01, 2013 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol Randall when was that? When we refused to get into WWII until Pearl harbor? Or when we went to the aid of theVietnamese? Wars are not about humanitarian interests with veey few exceptions in fact if you can nsne ONE i will be shocked.

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posted September 01, 2013 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
I've just seen a report that rebels are now admitting they accidentally set off the gas themselves, not having any idea even what it was our how to handle it; and that it was supplied by the Saudis

Unfortunately the same article goes on to lecture that it happened because God was punishing them for their evil religion...which makes me wonder if the story itself is bogus...we shall see I guess.

Glad Obama decided to wait for Congress' deliberation



If you understood the Middle east mind except for Israel, there are hundreds of little factions and they all hate each other.

The internecine hate is as great as the hate for Israel, Christians and the West, if not worse i.e Syrians brutally murdering their own people.

That is why Obama walked into a morass that he could not see because he does not understand what a simple layman like I can see and that it the mindset of this region with the except of the single democracy, Israel.

That is why Obama has failed from the beginning and will fail until the end.


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posted September 01, 2013 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for the record Ami, you are very far from the only person who understand the middle east and it's factions. I don't know why you think Obama doesn't know also though I can guess. In fact I suspect he knows a great deal more than you about the subject. And he also knows how congress will respond to him.

I have the greatest (surprise) respect for GW in this...he has refused to be drawn into the circus of know-it-alls so despite my genuine basic disagreement with much of his record, I will give credit where it's due

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posted September 01, 2013 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are some...some here too who are forever justifying Socialists and Socialist policies; forever attempting to prop up the Marxist Messiah...O'Bomber.

Sarah Palin isn't one of those.

There are some...some here too who believe they're the intellectual superior of Sarah Palin. They're simply delusional. Sarah Palin is a clear thinking rational. The delusional ones...here and elsewhere fail every test of rationality.

Still, I get a kick out of reading their irrational posts...the origins of which come straight from the delusional minds of O'Bomber's Kool-Aid drinking lunatic fringe cadre.

“So we’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And I’m the idiot?” – Sarah Palin

* President Obama wants America involved in Syria’s civil war pitting the antagonistic Assad regime against equally antagonistic Al Qaeda affiliated rebels. But he’s not quite sure which side is doing what, what the ultimate end game is, or even whose side we should be on. Haven’t we learned? WAGs don’t work in war.

* We didn’t intervene when over 100,000 Syrians were tragically slaughtered by various means, but we’ll now intervene to avenge the tragic deaths of over 1,000 Syrians killed by chemical weapons, though according to the White House we’re not actually planning to take out the chemical weapons because doing so would require “too much of a commitment.”

* President Obama wants to do what, exactly? Punish evil acts in the form of a telegraphed air strike on Syria to serve as a deterrent? If our invasion of Iraq wasn’t enough of a deterrent to stop evil men from using chemical weapons on their own people, why do we think this will be?

* The world sympathizes with the plight of civilians tragically caught in the crossfire of this internal conflict. But President Obama’s advertised war plan (which has given Assad enough of a heads-up that he’s reportedly already placing human shields at targeted sites) isn’t about protecting civilians, and it’s not been explained how lobbing U.S. missiles at Syria will help Syrian civilians. Do we really think our actions help either side or stop them from hurting more civilians?

* We have no clear mission in Syria. There’s no explanation of what vital American interests are at stake there today amidst yet another centuries-old internal struggle between violent radical Islamists and a murderous dictatorial regime, and we have no business getting involved anywhere without one. And where’s the legal consent of the people’s representatives? Our allies in Britain have already spoken. They just said no. The American people overwhelmingly agree, and the wisdom of the people must be heeded.

* Our Nobel Peace Prize winning President needs to seek Congressional approval before taking us to war. It’s nonsense to argue that, (b)“Well, Bush did it.” Bull. President Bush received support from both Congress and a coalition of our allies for “his wars,”(/b) ironically the same wars Obama says he vehemently opposed because of lack of proof of America’s vital interests being at stake.

* Bottom line is that this is about President Obama saving political face because of his “red line” promise regarding chemical weapons.

* As I said before, if we are dangerously uncertain of the outcome and are led into war by a Commander-in-chief who can’t recognize that this conflict is pitting Islamic extremists against an authoritarian regime with both sides shouting “Allah Akbar” at each other, then let Allah sort it out.

- Sarah Palin

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posted September 02, 2013 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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* As I said before, if we are dangerously uncertain of the outcome and are led into war by a Commander-in-chief who can’t recognize that this conflict is pitting Islamic extremists against an authoritarian regime with both sides shouting “Allah Akbar” at each other, then let Allah sort it out.

- Sarah Palin



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