posted August 27, 2013 11:47 AM            

I'm Kuwaiti btw not American.

posted August 27, 2013 11:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
IMO whether they attack Syria or not for humanitarian reasons in response to the chemical attack on civilians they should NOT repeat the same mistakes they did in afghan and iraq, I suggest if they attack Assad they SHOULD ALSO attack other islamic extremist that emerging in syria, people who believe in democracy and western values should take the lead in syria not the extremist thats my opinion.

I'm Kuwaiti btw not American.

God protect us and help us all

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Lovely opinion, Friend

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posted August 27, 2013 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lovely opinion, Friend

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Thanks Dear Ami

posted August 27, 2013 01:14 PM            

In Kuwait, the Allied Force kicked down the door and dragged the malignant entity to the back yard and b1tch slapped. And then restored security and then left. No interfering with the way things are run. That worked.

posted August 27, 2013 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
IMO whether they attack Syria or not for humanitarian reasons in response to the chemical attack on civilians they should NOT repeat the same mistakes they did in afghan and iraq, I suggest if they attack Assad they SHOULD ALSO attack other islamic extremist that emerging in syria, people who believe in democracy and western values should take the lead in syria not the extremist thats my opinion.

I'm Kuwaiti btw not American.

God protect us and help us all

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That is what i was thinking...like hello, who wants someone who eats people's hearts on a camera screen being part of the 'rulers' of any country...and the 'crowd' of the latter is much more likely to have no problem killing people with gas, than a 'secular dictator'.

though i have a third opinion, i agree with what the Russians think is going on there, if any of you have access to proper translated from Russian resources then it is worth a read.
This whole chemical attack is so orchestrated, but this is a pretext to attack the country, and Russia's last access to the Mediterranean sea is gone.

Another so called 'religious' regime there, is a nightmare not something to look forward to.

So in short, no i don't believe the media about this. And i would really like to see the countries i come from NOT getting involved with this one this time! how do they have money for an army but not for helping the economy in any case?!

posted August 27, 2013 02:47 PM            

No matter how accurate the laser designation in JDAMs, the collateral damage is high. I've laid prone outside the kill zone of a JDAM. It isn't fun. You need to keep your mouth open or risk lungs collapsing.

posted August 27, 2013 04:15 PM            

A) Anything we do is going to be at least as bad as what we are supposedly trying to stop, so we become the bad guys.
B) It seems like an excuse to get rid of Assad (echoes of Iraq anyone?)
C) We can barely afford to treat our own people right according to Congress, why are we meddling in others' business?
D)Possible WWIII considering the conflicting interests of both Russia and China.

posted August 27, 2013 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Don't start anything you can't finish or don't have the will to finish. Once you get a girl pregnant, you would need to game on. There isn't any going back. So think twice before whipping the d1ck out to prove your manhood.

Same concept with starting wars to act macho.

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Fully agree with this. I don't know if you've seen the reports, as you do work in banks, but the UK is worst off than Greece economically atm. But the media doesn't want to scare people there.

France....well, Hollande hates anyone with a bit of money if a French citizen, but has no problems going to war.

i dont think the economy there has been bad in my whole lifetime as it is now...so yeah don't know how stupid they think their people are, or how this frying pot to the fire policy to get the minds of economic woes is supposed to help anyone?

Russia has also repeatedly said a lot of the 'islamic rebels' aren't Syrian at all, but from the same place the Boston bombers came from, so naturally are very concerned (that and that specific country's proximity to Russia if we cross just a few borders)

i somehow don't see this as Iraq at all, neither what is going on, or the consequences if an invasion of sort takes place...

posted August 27, 2013 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
NOT GOOD.

A) Anything we do is going to be at least as bad as what we are supposedly trying to stop, so we become the bad guys.
B) It seems like an excuse to get rid of Assad (echoes of Iraq anyone?)
C) We can barely afford to treat our own people right according to Congress, why are we meddling in others' business?
D)Possible WWIII considering the conflicting interests of both Russia and China.

EFGHIJ all not good

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I agree. And Syria has been in the neocons' crosshairs for too long for me to think this is another "humanitarian" effort.

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GEN. WESLEY CLARK:.... I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” So I said, “Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?” He said, “No, no.” He says, “There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.” He said, “I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments.” And he said, “I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.”

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, “You remember that?” He said, “Sir, I didn’t show you that memo! I didn’t show it to you!”

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posted August 27, 2013 05:33 PM            

New poll: Syria intervention even less popular than Congress

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A new Reuters/Ipsos poll has finally found something that Americans like even less than Congress: the possibility of U.S. military intervention in Syria. Only 9 percent of respondents said that the Obama administration should intervene militarily in Syria; a RealClearPolitics poll average finds Congress has a 15 percent approval rating, making the country’s most hated political body almost twice as popular.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was taken Aug.19-23, the very same week that horrific reports emerged strongly suggesting that Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people, potentially killing hundreds or even thousands of civilians. If there were ever a time that Americans would support some sort of action, you’d think this would be it. But this is the lowest support for intervention since the poll began tracking opinion on the issue. The survey also found that 60 percent oppose intervention outright, with the rest, perhaps sagely, saying that they don’t know.

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Oooo "perhaps sagely"...says the warmongering media.

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The United States certainly appears to be considering limited strikes on Syria in response to last week’s suspected chemical weapons attack.

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posted August 28, 2013 03:20 AM            

ironic though how Russia is the one looking to find a peaceful way to end that mess there, while the US and the UK specially seem to be looking for a way to make it even worst....how times do change!

posted August 28, 2013 05:53 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
One day, a couple of these Russian supplied SA-300s or SA-400s SAMs are going to bring down a couple of Joint Strike Fighters or Eurofighters or Rafales, perhaps out of sheer luck, and NATO is going to reconsider the effectiveness of these aerial bombardments given the price of one jet is $200 million.

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posted August 28, 2013 06:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Washington Post:
What's the message with that, seriously? "You can't kill your own people, only the USA can kill your people"?

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Very good point....who do people exactly think gets killed in airstrikes?

also Hollande seems more and more desperate as reports of record unemployment rates have been released
(well duh! he's made most of the upper middle class and rich people leave and relocate their business's since he demanded 80% of their wealth be paid in taxes)....yes striking a middle eastern country that should save the economy

posted August 28, 2013 08:26 AM            

i agree with u YTA the few Syrians i met, i met a few years ago before this, and yes they agreed that family rules everything in that country, but they kind of also had respect for him. they also told me a lot of US companies do business or did, without announcing it, as it was profitable for both sides.
We're also forgetting Iran,a country which probably was secretly rejoicing when Saddam was gone, and even the guy in Libya...but which in this case is an ally to the Assad.

posted August 29, 2013 06:26 PM            

The Cuban missile crisis in 62, comandeered by Kennedy, put us at direct risk of nuclear attack but ended in a new agreement as to boundaries and reduction of nuclear sites on both sides.

Most politicians see these manouvres as necessary evils. Some hate them and some seem to enjoy them and some seem to need kick ing to the curb before they back off.