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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 02, 2013 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is so much natural gas in the Bakken, Permian and Marcellus shales in the US that it is driving down the natural gas market. Gas prices only recently recovered to $4 per MM Boe, after languishing at $2. The US isn't looking for more dry gas. And transporting LNG from the Middle East is a headache and costly. The US is searching for liquid crude, not natural gas. It's already hard enough coming up with the E&P capital resources for the gas already in North America.

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posted September 02, 2013 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Herein lies the difference between an irrational, bumbling, bungling, incompetent Marxist Socialist Progressive...Barack Hussein O'Bomber who got his bluff called by a murderous Socialist thug dictator...Syria's Assad and the clear thinking rational American, Sarah Palin.

Flashback: Governor Palin’s Five-Point Requirements on Military Action....2011

First, we should only commit our forces when clear and vital American interests are at stake. Period.

Second, if we have to fight, we fight to win. To do that, we use overwhelming force. We only send our troops into war with the objective to defeat the enemy as quickly as possible. We do not stretch out our military with open-ended and ill-defined missions. Nation building is a nice idea in theory, but it is not the main purpose of our armed forces. We use our military to win wars.

And third, we must have clearly defined goals and objectives before sending troops into harm’s way. If you can’t explain the mission to the American people clearly and concisely, then our sons and daughters should not be sent into battle. Period.

Fourth, American soldiers must never be put under foreign command. We will fight side by side with our allies, but American soldiers must remain under the care and the command of American officers.

Fifth, sending in our armed forces should be the last resort. We don’t go looking for dragons to slay. However, we will encourage the forces of freedom around the world who are sincerely fighting for the empowerment of the individual. When it makes sense, when it’s appropriate, we will provide them with material support to help them win their own freedom. We are not indifferent to the cause of human rights or the desire for freedom. We are always on the side of both. But we can’t fight every war. We can’t undo every injustice around the world.
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Randall
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posted September 02, 2013 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Palin sounds very rational.

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Faith
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posted September 02, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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An interesting footnote has emerged to a theory that raged around the Internet during Sarah Palin's candidacy for Vice President. The theory is that Sarah Palin is actually the grandmother of her purported son Trig, not the mother, and that she staged a gigantic hoax during the campaign to cover up this fact.

Professor Bradford Scharlott of Northern Kentucky University has looked into this story in detail and written a long academic article about it. He concludes two things: First, that the "conspiracy theory" is likely true—Sarah Palin staged a huge hoax, and, second, the American media is pathetic for not pursuing the story more aggressively.

Scharlott's article walks through all the evidence supporting the theory, including the photos of Palin in what is said to have been a late-stage pregnancy, the leisurely 20-hour trip home that Palin took after she supposedly went into labor in Texas, the refusal of the hospital where Trig was supposedly born to even confirm that he was born there (let alone who was the mother), strange statements from Palin's doctor and the McCain campaign, and so on.

And Scharlott concludes that, given that this hoax would be a massive fraud perpetrated on the entire country by a vice-presidential candidate, the media absolutely should have pursued the story more aggressively.


Check it out

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posted September 02, 2013 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The theory is that Sarah Palin is actually the grandmother of her purported son Trig"...Faith

Right Faith! check!

This is the kind of non thinking baloney which gives leftists black eyes.

Check it out...indeed. No rational person believes a word of this nonsense.

Yeah Faith...and as the moron David Letterman said...Alex Hernandez knocked up Willow Palin during the 7th inning stretch.

How dumb, how high, how out of touch with reality do you have to be to belive a word of this horseshiiite?

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posted September 03, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Palin sounds very rational.

So this is now a Sarah Palin thread. I thought she was out of relevance these days, but I see some people are still holding a torch.

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posted September 03, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"The theory is that Sarah Palin is actually the grandmother of her purported son Trig"...Faith

Right Faith! check!

This is the kind of non thinking baloney which gives leftists black eyes.

Check it out...indeed. No rational person believes a word of this nonsense.

Yeah Faith...and as the moron David Letterman said...Alex Hernandez knocked up Willow Palin during the 7th inning stretch.

How dumb, how high, how out of touch with reality do you have to be to belive a word of this horseshiiite?


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posted September 03, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"The theory is that Sarah Palin is actually the grandmother of her purported son Trig"...Faith

I never said that. But I firmly believe she either faked a pregnancy or is guilty of reckless endangerment of Trig.

Sounds kooky, but SHE is the kook...so are the people who never bother scrutinizing Sarah Palin, but go along with the media fairytale instead, which is as fictional as a movie.

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posted September 03, 2013 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
So this is now a Sarah Palin thread. I thought she was out of relevance these days, but I see some people are still holding a torch.

It's just plain WEIRD.

I shouldn't have gone along with the thread derailment though~ my apologies. The Syria situation is dire and deserves more of a steady focus.

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posted September 03, 2013 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I never said that. But I firmly believe she either faked a pregnancy or is guilty of reckless endangerment of Trig."...Faith

You could not "firmly believe" any such thing. There's not an ounce of evidence to suggest it's true. But there are bloviating moron leftists venting their spleen at Sarah Palin who is more intelligent, more accomplished, more politically astute and more successful than they will ever be.

It never ceases to amaze me that there are people who think of themselves as "good people" but who are willing to spread viscous rumors, gossip and innuendo which came straight out of the ass of people who have a political ax to grind and don't even know Sarah Palin or anyone in her family.

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posted September 03, 2013 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You could not "firmly believe" any such thing.

People can firmly believe all kinds of things regardless of whether they are outrageous.

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But there are bloviating moron leftists venting their spleen at Sarah Palin who is more intelligent, more accomplished, more politically astute and more successful than they will ever be.

Doesn't that premise rest upon the flawed thinking that Sarah Palin has never been criticized by anyone more successful than her? I'm quite certain that amongst her detractors are people far more successful than she has been.

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posted September 03, 2013 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No it is based on the premise that the sun shines out of her backside lol...and that she deserves to be the only celebrity no one must question. It is fine to slander any and everybody else of course.

"I may not like what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" unless it's about the reality queen who aspires to achieve the Whitehouse thru cheap celebrity as she attributes to Ronald Reagan.

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posted September 03, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just worried about Islamist terrorists to take power after Assad is gone. looks like Obama is going to have the approval from the Congress, I just hope they also have plans to attack Islamist groups only people who believe in Western values should take power in Syria otherwise the situation will get worse and Islamist rule will threaten the whole world. My point of view

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posted September 03, 2013 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People cannot "firmly believe"...unless there's a mental defect...anything for which there is absolutely no proof, no evidence. The very best rational people could say is......I DON'T KNOW!

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posted September 03, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The arguments are spurious @ best. Every labour is different but i think it highly unlikely that a woman in labour would be addressing any crowd...however many women mistake braxton hicks for labour and/or dismiss widely separated labour pains as Braxton Hicks.

It is more likely, given trig's condition, that his mother was in her 40s than her teens, and i have known several women who hardly "showed" @ 9 mos let alone 7

Still, considering the daft credence given the non-case of the birthers, accusations of mental imbalance are just a little OTT (not to mention OCD)

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posted September 03, 2013 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I'm just worried about Islamist terrorists to take power after Assad is gone. looks like Obama is going to have the approval from the Congress, I just hope they also have plans to attack Islamist groups only people who believe in Western values should take power in Syria otherwise the situation will get worse and Islamist rule will threaten the whole world. My point of view

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 03, 2013 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I just hope they also have plans to attack Islamist groups only people who believe in Western values should take power in Syria otherwise the situation will get worse and Islamist rule will threaten the whole world. My point of view


Isn't that hope for a secular Middle East a tad idealistic?

In these politically correct times, it's not politically viable to launch a war against militant Islam, especially when the Left refuses to acknowledge that radical, militant Islam is mostly behind the majority of the problems.

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posted September 03, 2013 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually before the Assads came in the Middle East was a good deal more secular than it is today. Lebanon was a gorgeous place rich in diverse cultures and religious affiliations. Egypt was secular. Iran rolled over to Islam about the same time removing another flourishing culture that was largely secular.

But I hardly think military action is the answer to Syria or any of the rest of it. Interesting that those who praise Bush for removing a "murderous dictator" from Iraq find the rationale in Syria ridiculous, but maybe they have finally seen the light?

Or maybe not. Congress may very well do the idiot thing and vote for striking Syria, but by the time they pull their fingers out the time will be even further past. McCain and friends have been BAYING for major military action, not just a surgical strike whatever that is.

Yes something should be done. But war or even a missile strike are not that "something".

It is also true that Congress" "support" is not an ultimatum that we MUST strike. That is the decision of the commander in chief who really doesn't need their approval for the short sharp action he says he wants.

Time will tell maybe we here at home should get some "boots on the ground" and just say NO. I suggest contacting your congressmen at the very least...NOW, in case it makes a difference to them

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posted September 03, 2013 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you say that Congress may do the idiot thing and vote for a strike? Are you also saying Obama is an idiot for proposing it?

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Actually before the Assads came in the Middle East was a good deal more secular than it is today. Lebanon was a gorgeous place rich in diverse cultures and religious affiliations. Egypt was secular. Iran rolled over to Islam about the same time removing another flourishing culture that was largely secular.

But I hardly think military action is the answer to Syria or any of the rest of it. Interesting that those who praise Bush for removing a "murderous dictator" from Iraq find the rationale in Syria ridiculous, but maybe they have finally seen the light?

Or maybe not. Congress may very well do the idiot thing and vote for striking Syria, but by the time they pull their fingers out the time will be even further past. McCain and friends have been BAYING for major military action, not just a surgical strike whatever that is.

Yes something should be done. But war or even a missile strike are not that "something".

It is also true that Congress" "support" is not an ultimatum that we MUST strike. That is the decision of the commander in chief who really doesn't need their approval for the short sharp action he says he wants.

Time will tell maybe we here at home should get some "boots on the ground" and just say NO. I suggest contacting your congressmen at the very least...NOW, in case it makes a difference to them


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posted September 03, 2013 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because, Randall, that is the noise they are making.
I suspect it is all shenanigans once again. Obama saying he wanted to do it - but NOT DOING IT - got Congress roaring about runaway powers and their need to weigh in...So knowing they will usually go against anything he suggests, he complied and said he would take advice from them...now THEY are saying they will stand behind him which puts him back on the spot

and so it goes, thumb wars in washington, feints and double feints and who knows where it will go?

Even if Congress authorizes action, he is still the one who decides. He could be very smart and refuse to do so, if he cares what the country thinks of him. He could also say, see it's not me playing king, congress is in on this.

I hope they vote against it but when has congress EVER voted against military action? McCain wants the whole 9 yards! Others are there too.

Lines in the sand are for schoolyard bullies. And yes, I include Obama in that. However he doesn't have to carry through even if they "support" action

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posted September 03, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People cannot "firmly believe"...unless there's a mental defect...anything for which there is absolutely no proof, no evidence. The very best rational people could say is......I DON'T KNOW!

I agree with you, but the experience of this particular forum shows that supposedly reasonable and rational people do believe all manner of irrational thing.

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posted September 03, 2013 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boehner's onboard for attack, too. Saw him on the news this morning. He's urging everyone to back the President.

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posted September 03, 2013 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barack H O'Bomber addresses the nation on Syria:

Hello my fellow Americans. It appears those nasty Republicans, and some weak kneed democrats are going to deny me the opportunity to strike a blow for International Norms against the use of Weapons of Mass Destruction in Syria. The vote hasn't been taken yet but I can see the tide running against us.

But, if the Congress won't act, I will, I must respect Internationalism and uphold International norms.

In keeping with my promise there will be no bloodshed, no American troops on the ground in Syria, no US Airfarce overflying Syrian airspace, I still intend to strike a devastating blow to the Syrian leadership. A cyber attack is in order.

If this vote in the US Congress fails to unite Congress in my favor, I intend to strike Syria anyway. Who needs Congress? I have right and International norms on my side.

I have tasked the NSA to hack every computer in Syria and insert malicious code in Syrian computers. This has been done.

At 12:00 PM...high noon in Syria, every computer in Syria will be taken over by NSA programming and my picture will be displayed on every computer monitor in Syria. Think Benito Mussolini, El Duce with his head up and chin thrust forward in a belligerent pose. Picture the words flashing on Syrian monitors, I WON, YOU LOST! And, in the background, music playing.

This is your chance my fellow Americans for direct democratic action. America should always have been a Direct Democracy. I intend to let you vote to choose which music will be played on Syrian speakers. Direct Democracy in action.

Song A


I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy

I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy
A Yankee Doodle, do or die
A real live nephew of my Uncle Sam
Born on the Fourth of July

I've got a Yankee Doodle sweetheart
She's my Yankee Doodle joy
Yankee Doodle came to town
Just to ride the ponies
I am that Yankee Doodle Boy

Song B

Trouble


If you're looking for trouble
You came to the right place
If you're looking for trouble
Just look right in my face
I was born standing up
And talking back
My daddy was a green-eyed mountain jack
Because I'm evil, my middle name is misery
Well I'm evil, so don't you mess around with me

I've never looked for trouble
But I've never ran
I don't take no orders
From no kind of man
I'm only made out
Of flesh, blood and bone
But if you're gonna start a rumble
Don't you try it on alone
Because I'm evil, my middle name is misery
Well I'm evil, so don't you mess around with me

So my fellow Americans, go to my website, bhoiwonyoulost.com and register your vote. Remember, my NSA has all your IP addresses and we know who you are. You don't want to be on the wrong side of this one. Those FEMA Detention Camps...I mean those FEMA Aid and Comfort Stations are almost completed.

Good night my fellow Americans. Remember, I have you covered.

~Barack H O'Bomber~


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posted September 03, 2013 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People cannot "firmly believe"...unless there's a mental defect

I've done a lot of research on it. My extremely meticulous German friend (Cap sun and Mercury) with moon conjunct Pluto got interested in the case. She is hard to convince about anything even remotely "conspiracy theory" but she was habitually reading Andrew Sullivan's blog, and he took up the story's validity. She and I pored through the evidence for about a month and we both came to the conclusion that Palin is nuts and her birth story is full of holes, lies, and confusion. It shouldn't be that way.

Anyone who laughs and walks away is just acting on their instincts, not looking at the evidence, which is massive.

So, go on and be silly, throw your caustic insults around, get your applause and flowers from Ami, and have a nice life!

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posted September 03, 2013 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I agree with you, but the experience of this particular forum shows that supposedly reasonable and rational people do believe all manner of irrational thing.

C'mon stop incriminating yourself, you're too humble. Buck up, AG!

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