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Topic: American Election: A Scorpian / Pluto sun woman, or a Gemini / Mercurial man ?
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Randall
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posted August 06, 2016 11:34 PM
  
We need to scrap the entire tax code. It's bloated. Unfair. Penalizes the middle class. Allows the IRS to exceed their statutory authority. Forces judges to jail innocent people. Scrap the whole thing. If politicians want everyone to pay their fair share, then a 10% flat tax would do just that. No long tax returns. Limited IRS. One page filing. But myself, I'm for a national sales tax. It would encourage savings. Done correctly, we could finally get our debt under control. Housing, food, clothing, and medicine would be exempt, so it won't disproportionally penalize the poor. But when the rich buy that luxury car or yacht or plane, they pay the tax. If they don't want to pay the tax, they don't buy the yacht. Corporations spend a huge amount complying with the tax code, filing, withholding, etc. Released from those burdens, prices will naturally drop across the board. Capitalism works. People keep their whole check. No tax return at all. States collect it and forward it to the federal government. And the best part of all, we abolish the IRS! Now, THAT is real change!IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted August 06, 2016 11:40 PM
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Randall
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posted August 06, 2016 11:59 PM
I see your point. We all have our personal ways we will be affected. I know people who get checks from the government that truly depend on that money to survive. My best friend can barely walk. He is in unimaginable pain 24/7. No relief. No drugs work. He can't work. His son was taking care of him, paying his rent and utility bills, and I finally suggested that he get off his ass and go get some kind of a job. Just kidding. I suggested he get disability. I did the paperwork for him, and he was approved the first time! So, I understand the fear that Republicans will take away this kind of help. That simply isn't true. He's a Republican and not afraid of that happening, but I can understand that fear. Obama has really dropped the ball on veterans. They should be receiving the absolute best care. They earned it. It's just the right thing to do. They are waiting days for emergency care. They are dying. Some are homeless. How can people who faithfully served this country be homeless? It's not right. They didn't choose war. They just served. I don't understand why Obama doesn't do something. Billions to Iran. What do the homeless vets get? Why do vets have to die waiting to get substandard care? I could never in good conscience vote for that. I have to believe that Trump will change this. I have to.
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Randall
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posted August 07, 2016 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
The link I posted in the reply addresses Trump's claims that its "unusual." It actually isn't. He's exaggerating his success.
Understood. But I digress, in the age of deficits, isn't a $2 billion surplus "unusual"? IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted August 07, 2016 04:52 AM
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StubbornVirgo
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posted August 07, 2016 05:02 AM
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Randall
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posted August 07, 2016 04:45 PM
Thank you. I fight for what I believe in, and sometimes my passion gets misconstrued as aggressiveness. I don't see how Democrats can be anti-welfare and disability. The Democrats have championed those causes. I've seen a lot of them lately being intolerant (in person), and I thought they were supposed to be the tolerant party. At the RNC, I saw Trump bring down the house when he mentioned gay rights. The entire place erupted in applause and cheers. I am for equality in all matters, but with the traditional marriage leanings of the party, I thought I was watching the wrong convention. And then, the party of Christianity let a woman who is Sikh give the convocation while the entire convention bowed and closed their eyes. The universe is turning upside down. Hillary's 10-point lead is now at 7 or 8 (depending on which poll you look at), but she is still way ahead, especially in swing states, and GA always votes Republican, but Hillary has a 4-point lead here. But both candidates have record low approval ratings (Hillary at 38% and Trump at 36%), which means the people don't like either one of them. This election is very strange. Glad your mom got approved the first time.I hear that's rare. The bad side to that is less back pay. Have you applied for nonprofits? That might be a good fit for you. Or maybe start your own? The process is streamlined now, and you can head one that focuses on the disabled. With your passion for the subject, bringing awareness about it to others wouldn't feel like work to you, and it would grow quickly (with donations from social media, getting the word out with fund-raising events, and grants) and you could get a reasonable salary once it gets off the ground. The Board of nonprofits aren't allowed to get paid, but many wealthy people love to serve on Boards. They donate and have pull with publicity. Plus, you would might want people who have passion more than money. Or a mix of both. You want the Board to help. I know all of this, because I almost started my own a few years ago. I had to put it on the back burner. And it was about disabilies! *shock, shock* I've never seen special needs children denied public schooling. That's illegal, and they are really careful about being inclusive in Georgia. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I've not heard of it here. What I have seen is the disabled denied employment. That, too, is against the law, and it's a very pervasive problem. People hate Walmart for their wages and many lawsuits (just because a company is sued a lot doesn't mean those suits have merit, but Walmart is an easy target with lots of cash and often settles), but they aggressively hire the disabled. You have to give them credit for that. Many companies will try to find a way to not hire the disabled. So, that is the area my nonprofit was going to be about. An employer cannot use disabilities against job applicants if they can perform the job requirements with reasonable accomodations. I was going to find employers that wanted to not just comply with the law but to be proactive with hiring the disabled, and then I would help them to not only find employment but to match them with the right job for their talents/education. I believe that most people want to work. And to do fulfilling work. It's a human need. I knew a woman who was deaf that was a cashier at a restaurant. She was so happy there. She loved that job. She could have easily gotten disability. Everyone there loved and adored her. But one day she gave away a free soft drink to a child, and the area supervisor was there and saw it and told the manager to fire her for stealing. It was a very sad day. I hope she found another job. Anyway, the name I was going to use was JobCare. But then Obamacare became a thing, and I figured people would think I gratuitiously borrowed the name for it. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted August 08, 2016 02:22 AM
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Randall
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posted August 08, 2016 02:47 PM
Well, Mom is Democrat, but she always votes with them. Very sad about the veterans. At least you got to witness it first hand. I somehow thought you would be in nursing! Maybe you will find some natural remedies to ease your suffering. I had at one time considered medicine, but I don't like needles, so I chose leadership in college and then lawschool instead. I'm no fan of lawyers, but it will allow me to help people in the most effective way. I have a strong distaste for bullies, (I don't consider Trump to be a bully, although, he does have a huge ego, huuuge, so huuuge *said in an imitative Trump voice*), and many people can't fight back due to not being able to afford legal counsel, so I will be able to stand up for the little guy/gal against those who take advantage of them. Justice should be available to everyone. I hope your businesses pick up and grow fast. Feel free to add your site/blog to your signature. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 10, 2016 02:41 AM
Sooooooooooooo,
what is the excuse for Trump's latest comment where he suggested that Hillary be shot? What is the spin on that one?I am really curious to see how this one is going to be explained by his devotees. Oh, I know it's going to be explained, excused and justified, but I am still curious to see how, because mental acrobatics to explain the unexplainable and to justify the unjustifiable always fascinate me. I am grabbing a seat and some green tea. Go on... Entertain me. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2016 03:21 AM
Well, it sure is entertaining to watch Hillary's supporters defend her actions, but Trump never said Hillary should be shot. Sounds like you have already heard the spin--from the media. What he said was in the context of Supreme Court Justice appointments and the Second Amendment. Here are his exact words:"Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know." This is his call for people who want to keep their gun rights to go and vote en masse. In the context of what he said, it's clear. He went on to clarify that the NRA endorsed him. He wants gun owners to feel comfortable in voting for him. Had the Secret Service thought he in any inkling of a way threatened a presidential candidate, he would have been arrested. Just like the man who recently threatened Trump was. Do you think the media knows more than the Secret Service? Of course not. But if this were Hillary, it wouldn't have even made the news at all.  It's the goal of the media to protect Hillary by keeping Trump in their stories, so it will divert the public from Hillary's dismal record. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2016 03:31 AM
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Belage
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posted August 10, 2016 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Well, it sure is entertaining to watch Hillary's supporters defend her actions, but Trump never said Hillary should be shot. Sounds like you have already heard the spin--from the media. What he said was in the context of Supreme Court Justice appointments and the Second Amendment. Here are his exact words:"Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know." This is his call for people who want to keep their gun rights to go and vote en masse. In the context of what he said, it's clear. He went on to clarify that the NRA endorsed him. He wants gun owners to feel comfortable in voting for him. Had the Secret Service thought he in any inkling of a way threatened a presidential candidate, he would have been arrested. Just like the man who recently threatened Trump was. Do you think the media knows more than the Secret Service? Of course not. But if this were Hillary, it wouldn't have even made the news at all. It's the goal of the media to protect Hillary by keeping Trump in their stories, so it will divert the public from Hillary's dismal record.
So his statement meant "go and vote en masse."??  In what language? Trumpish?  We are going to start needing special interpreters for this new patois language that's being created. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2016 08:09 AM
Those were my words. When Trump said that they might have something to say about it, he meant by voting against her to keep her from appointing justices. Only in the liberal mind does voting equate with shooting.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted August 10, 2016 10:28 AM
Trump continues to strew the political landscape with landmines for idiot political activist...so called journalists and sycophants of Hillary The Corrupt to step on.The really funny thing is, they never learn their lessons and live up to Trump's expectations for them. August 10, 2016
Trump successfully baits media into hysteria. Again.
Thomas Lifson The anti-Trump media (another name for the mainstream media) have resumed their frenzied claims that Donald Trump is out to unleash indescribable horror in the American people. The current version of doom is that he is calling for NRA assassins to kill either Hillary Clinton or her Supreme Court nominees, or both. What he actually said was this: “By the way if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know.” Within thirty minutes, according to Rudy Giuliani interviewed on Fox News this morning, the Clinton spin machine had shaped the media narrative. Trump was not calling for electoral activism (at a rally of electoral activists!). No, he was calling on “Second Amendment People” to use their evil guns to kill someone or other. Thomas Friedman of the New York Times handily summed up the conventional wisdom, his forte. "And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin got assassinated. His right-wing opponents just kept delegitimizing him as a “traitor” and “a Nazi” for wanting to make peace with the Palestinians and give back part of the Land of Israel. Of course, all is fair in politics, right? And they had God on their side, right? They weren’t actually telling anyone to assassinate Rabin. That would be horrible. But there are always people down the line who don’t hear the caveats. They just hear the big message: The man is illegitimate, the man is a threat to the nation, the man is the equivalent of a Nazi war criminal. Well, you know what we do with people like that, don’t you? We kill them. And that’s what the Jewish extremist Yigal Amir did to Rabin. Why not? He thought he had permission from a whole segment of Israel’s political class. In September, I wrote a column warning that Donald Trump’s language toward immigrants could end up inciting just this kind of violence. I never in my wildest dreams, though, thought he’d actually — in his usual coy, twisted way — suggest that Hillary Clinton was so intent on taking away the Second Amendment right to bear arms that maybe Second Amendment enthusiasts could do something to stop her. Exactly what? Oh, Trump left that hanging." Because everyone knows that Trump’s followers are barely civilized, some of them in more distant regions man-ape hybrids. And everyone knows that “Second Amendment people” are not united behind part of the Bill of Rights, they are using that as disguise of their true nature as bloodthirsty assassins.  The media are once again making themselves appear ridiculous, twisting Trump’s words and exposing their own disdain for Trump’s followers. They are following a general script. Samantha Strayer of The Federalist identifies the pattern: "The media frenzy surrounding this election, the 24/7 news-cycle, and Trump’s gumption ensure we’re constantly talking about him, analyzing his every move. (snip) many criticisms of Trump have been rather hysterical, sophomoric, and downright lewd. As if set on auto-repeat, headlines, tweets, and the like squeal XENOPHOBE! FASCIST! RACIST! DEMAGOGUE! PUDGY FINGERS! Eerily in sync, media outlets and Trump haters described his convention speech — and his soul! — as DARK!"  Trump obviously knows this, and yet he keeps feeding anti-Trumpers ambiguous opportunities to vent their mania. There are two possible means of explaining this. Either, as a friend who shall remain anonymous emailed me,
1.“Trump went one whole day without saying something really stupid. Two days was too much to ask.” Or
2.Trump is exercising some political jujitsu, able to anticipate the opposition’s reaction and planning to use their momentum against them. If Trump had so little self-awareness and self-control as the first alternative hypothesizes, could he have built the empire he has created? I would note that in The Art of the Deal he brags about psyching out his rivals in negotiations. Consider four propositions:
1.A huge share of the public, over two thirds, are dissatisfied with the way the country is working.
2.These dissatisfied people are angry at what they perceive as a bipartisan rigged system in league with special interests.
3.A huge share of the public distrusts and is angry at the media.
4.The media will never treat him fairly. Given these conditions, it would make sense for Trump to capitalize on the media’s inability to be fair, and get them to anger his base to turn out. And also to discredit themselves in the eyes of persuadables in the general public. People who despise him are going to write bad things about him anyway, so why not push them over the edge into revealing more than they intend about their own prejudices?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/08/trump_successfully_baits_media_into_hysteria_again.html IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 10, 2016 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Those were my words. When Trump said that they might have something to say about it, he meant by voting against her to keep her from appointing justices. Only in the liberal mind does voting equate with shooting.
Trump never said they might have something to "SAY" about it. Please reread the quote you yourself posted. What we have now in this election is a pattern of Trumpism outbursts causing double takes and concern from anyone with a modicum of rational thinking. These outbursts are followed by a scramble to explain, justify, obfuscate, put-out-the fire by his PR teams and devotees. When will you guys admit that you have a unleashed a wild rabid dog that you can't even muzzle? Are you guys planning on spending the next 4 years explaining his Trumpish patois to world leaders and allies after he is done insulting them with his grandstanding if he becomes POTUS? Do you guys ever sit back and even admit to yourself when nobody is looking: I like this guy, but man, can he shut the phuck up??? What is going to take for his devotees to say, maybe we are betting on the wrong horse? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2016 02:55 PM
I wasn't giving a direct quote. i did that earlier. While I do wish Trump would be more tactful, I am beginning to think it's deliberate. Trump saw how the press crucified Romney, so maybe he wanted to give them enough rope to hang themselves. They took the bait. They are little more than tabloid paparazzi now, by focusing on Trump's gaffes instead of Hillary's huge issues. Then Trump mentions about Hillary what the press neglected to, which confirms that the media can't be trusted, and that Trump is being treated unfairly and is the underdog against government corruption. But ultimately, I am much more concerned with what Hillary has DONE, than what Trump has SAID. No comparison. Not even close.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 10, 2016 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I wasn't giving a direct quote. i did that earlier. While I do wish Trump would be more tactful, I am beginning to think it's deliberate. Trump saw how the press crucified Romney, so maybe he wanted to give them enough rope to hang themselves. They took the bait. They are little more than tabloid paparazzi now, by focusing on Trump's gaffes instead of Hillary's huge issues. Then Trump mentions about Hillary what the press neglected to, which confirms that the media can't be trusted, and that Trump is being treated unfairly and is the underdog against government corruption. But ultimately, I am much more concerned with what Hillary has DONE, than what Trump has SAID. No comparison. Not even close.
So you think it's deliberate?I have a conspiracy theorist friend who has been saying that Trump is doing all this to ensure Hillary wins. She claims Trump and Hillary are good friends. After all, Hillary attended his wedding to Melania, and back in 2008, Trump supported Hillary and said she would make an excellent president. My conspiracy theorist friend may be right because Trump's mouth is turning off the independents and Bernie supporters who were thinking of voting for him or were thinking of sitting out the election altogether because they can't stand Hillary. Trump's mouth is making them rethink their position and many of them are now thinking of voting AGAINST Trump, that's why Trump has now fallen behind Hillary in the polls.
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Belage
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posted August 10, 2016 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Randall:
[b]I wasn't giving a direct quote. i did that earlier. While I do wish Trump would be more tactful, I am beginning to think it's deliberate. Trump saw how the press crufied Romney, so maybe he wanted to give them enough rope to hang themselves. They took the bait. They are little more than tabloid paparazzi now, by focusing on Trump's gaffes instead of Hillary's huge issues. Then Trump mentions about Hillary what the press neglected to, which confirms that the media can't be trusted, and that Trump is being treated unfairly and is the underdog against government corruption. But ultimately, I am much more concerned with what Hillary has DONE, than what Trump has SAID. No comparison. Not even close.
So you think it's deliberate?I have a conspiracy theorist friend who has been saying for months that Trump is doing all this to ensure Hillary wins. She claims Trump and Hillary are good friends. After all, Hillary attended his wedding to Melania, and back in 2008, Trump supported Hillary and said she would make an excellent president. I used to laugh at her, but my conspiracy theorist friend may be right because Trump's mouth is turning off the independents and Bernie supporters who were thinking of voting for him or were thinking of sitting out the election altogether because they can't stand Hillary. Trump's mouth is making them rethink their position and many of them are now thinking of voting for Hillary AGAINST Trump, that's why Trump has now fallen behind Hillary in the polls. [/B][/QUOTE] IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2016 03:46 PM
Nah, that's one dimensional. The latest poll shows Trump trailing by only 4 points. An extremely high percentage of voters don't trust the media. If Trump planned this, it could be brilliant, because the press hate him so much that they no longer even pretend to be objective. The media bought it lock, stock, and barrel. Maybe Trump has been in control the whole time. Jwhop's article above is quite convincing. The debates should be PPV, because no one can prepare for what Trump may do, and Hillary is going to be destroyed--figuratively speaking, of course.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 10, 2016 04:14 PM
It's not that farfetched a theory. I just went and looked at Trump and Hillary's charts, and I noticed thatTrump's Jupiter in Libra sextiles Hillary's Saturn and Pluto in Leo. Trumps' midheaven conjuncts Hillar's NN. His moon exactly trines her Saturn. His Mars is conjunct her Saturn. Her Mercury trines his Saturn and Venus conjunction. Strictly astrology speaking, these are not aspects of enemies at each other's throats.Those are aspects of allies, accomplices, buddies, friends, partners in crime. I'm just saying. there may be more to this election than meets the eyes. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 10, 2016 04:33 PM
As little as 8 years ago, Trump is quoted on the record as saying that Hillary would make a great president!! He made financial contributions to her campaign. He was fine with her platform and everything she stood for. What could Hillary possibly have done in the past 8 years to turn him into such a Hillary hater? I am now taking a pause and looking at this spectacle of an election with more critical eyes. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted August 10, 2016 05:05 PM
Belage, this has been my theory all along. Trumps insurance Hillary gets the win. It "may" have went astray when all the people who are supporting his anger, hate, racial, religious bias and malfeasance jumped on his bandwagon.
In the end game, it will not be Trump so let him play house and make a bigger arse of himself . It just stinks it is Hillary up for the win  ------------------
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Randall
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posted August 10, 2016 06:30 PM
I still believe Trump will win. His economic plan is stellar. I also believe that Hillary is unfit for a number of reasons, the least of which is that she isn't healthy. And Wikileaks says it has an October surprise for us all. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2016 07:12 PM
Over 3,400 people have been murdered in Chicago. That's Obama's hometown. Hillary was born there. Why are they not talking about that?IP: Logged | |
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