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StubbornVirgo
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posted August 22, 2016 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 22, 2016 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Care to wager a bet? He will be at all three. Trump is looking forward to crushing her.

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posted August 22, 2016 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A more likely scenario is that Hillary will "short-circuit" and not be able to participate.

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posted August 23, 2016 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh please little green men, away with him. Send your pretties to wing him away.




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posted August 23, 2016 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Care to wager a bet? He will be at all three. Trump is looking forward to crushing her.

Hillary is a lot smarter than Trump, and if the debate questions are based on actual ideas and realistic ways to implement those ideas, Trump will fail miserably. She has been involved in politics for years and understands how actual policies are created, and how the government works. Trump is clueless about the branches of government, how laws are made and the checks/balances that limit the power of the executive branch. Trump thinks the presidency is a dictatorship. He's even making enemies out of Republican House and Senate members, which is quite telling about how he would conduct himself as president. He has not offered one single strategy to manifest his empty promises, only boisterous rhetoric that panders to racists. Now he's suddenly trying to pander to black and hispanic voters, which is quite sad given his campaign strategy for the last year. He deserves a gold medal in flip-flopping! The fact that he beat a number of qualified Republicans for the nomination has exposed the dark underbelly of the Republican party, and how easily they can be swayed by playing on their hatred and resentment. He keeps saying he will get the support of 95% of black voters, yet he is polling at 1% currently. That's down right delusional!

If he treats the debates like a cheap shot roast on Hillary, it will only show the American voters what a vapid, egotistical bully he is. Republicans loved to watch that during the primary debates, because they feed off of the drama and anger. News flash, the moderate and liberal voters are not impressed with those tactics, and Trump cannot win without appealing to those voters.

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Do you mean how Hillary flip flops? She was for fracking until her foundation received a high dollar Arabic donation. And she said she was going to put the coal miners out of business...and then told them to their faces the opposite. She is a lying two-faced Wall Street candidate--bought and sold by special interests. Who do you think she will be working for if she is elected? Not the people. That's why she won't let anyone read her Goldman Sachs transcripts. She used her position at the State Dept. to go from "flat broke" (her own words) to $100 million by running a nonprofit. Yes, she knows how politics works, all right. She knows all about the inner workings of Washington corruption, because she wrote the book on it. That's why Trump received so many votes. People are fed up with Washington cronies. The Dems have been promising everything to African-Americans for decades and doing nothing but keep them in poverty, taking their votes for granted, but they are finally seeing the truth. Crime and unemploynent and poverty has been way up under a Black president and school quality way down in the inner cities, and this is with cities that have had Democrat mayors for decades, including Obama'a home town abd Hillary's birth place, Chicago, where Black on Black homicide is up 50 percent this year alone (but you won't hear either of them comment on that). Hillary stole millions' worth of paintings off the wall and silverware when she left the White House after Bill's tenure there, and the only ones delusional are those who think she is an honest and good person. What kind of human bring does that? She will use the POTUS position only to further her own selfish goals for power and profit. She is corrupt to the core.

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posted August 23, 2016 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump will remove the energy restrictions in this country (Obama created 900 new ones during his terms) and create an era of prosperity like this country has never seen! We will no longer be dependent upon nations that support terror in order to get oil. We will be self-sufficient and the leading importer of oil and natural gas. Obama only vetoed the pipeline, because his buddy is a major shareholder/owner of the train system that would be competing with it! A pipeline would be far cleaner, if the environment were the true concern. Obama is fairly corrupt himself, but Hillary takes the prize.

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posted August 23, 2016 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polls show Trump getting from 4 to 12 percent of African American voters.

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posted August 23, 2016 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt it. I had to shake my head at his "what the hell do you have to lose" statement.


The African American voters interviewed were insulted and outraged by the racist question..

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posted August 23, 2016 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's racist about that question? Please, explain. They have gained nothing from voting Democrat.

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posted August 23, 2016 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone throws out protestors at rallies, including you-know-who. The color of their skin is irrelevant. I'm not saying police brutality doesn't occur, and those officers should be sent to prison, but some of these high profile cases were lies. Just one example is Trayvon Martin. He commited a robbery and threatened the clerk's life. Then he grabbed for the officer's gun.

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posted August 23, 2016 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What's racist about that question? Please, explain. They have gained nothing from voting Democrat.

I watched 6 interviews with African Americans and they said it was racist. I just repeated their comment.

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posted August 23, 2016 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for my opinion he repeatedly said things to reflect their inner city environment .
He sure wasn`t talking to my rural white community or any middle class or upscale community.

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DIMONDALE, Mich. — On his second visit to Michigan in less than two weeks, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Friday blasted Democratic policies he said have destroyed Detroit and other urban centers and called for African Americans to support him, saying blacks cannot expect change otherwise.

Speaking to a predominantly all-white audience of about 6,000 people, Trump appealed directly to blacks for votes.

"You live in poverty," he said. "Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. What the hell do you have to lose?"



http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-to-bla ck-voters-%E2%80%98what-the-hell-do-you-have-to-lose%E2%80%99/ar-BBvPL2L

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Of course, he was referring to the inner cities. That was his point. That the failed policies of Democrat leadership contributed to the circumstances. There's nothing racist about articulating facts. Bad schools and rampant poverty, unemployment, and violent crime are proven stats that coincide with decades-long Democratic mayoral leadership. Indeed, what do they have to lose by giving Republican leadership a chance?

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Of course, he was referring to the inner cities. That was his point. That the failed policies of Democrat leadership contributed to the circumstances. There's nothing racist about articulating facts. Bad schools and rampant poverty, unemployment, and violent crime are proven stats that coincide with decades-long Democratic mayoral leadership. Indeed, what do they have to lose by giving Republican leadership a chance?

He's practically begging for their votes. Not a good look, on top of him being insensitive.

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posted August 23, 2016 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not really. It was hailed as a great speech. Taken in context, it wasn't insensitive at all.

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posted August 23, 2016 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not really. It was hailed as a great speech. Taken in context, it wasn't insensitive at all.

I`m not sure who "hailed" it other than his own team and supporters.

No Independent or unbiased group hailed it.

His Detroit economic speech was as inaccurate as this last Detroit rally was an insult to minorities.

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No matter how we cut this cake, the day after election I am going to be a very sad concerned American citizen.

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posted August 24, 2016 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Everyone throws out protestors at rallies, including you-know-who. The color of their skin is irrelevant. I'm not saying police brutality doesn't occur, and those officers should be sent to prison, but some of these high profile cases were lies. Just one example is Trayvon Martin. He commited a robbery and threatened the clerk's life. Then he grabbed for the officer's gun.

Randall I don't have time right now to respond to your other comments, but I have to respond to this. You are referring to Michael Brown, not Trayvon Martin. Brown was running in the middle of the street when he was first shot in the back, then he turned around with his hands up and the officer continued to shoot and kill him. I've watched the video where construction workers that witnessed the shooting yelled to the officer asking why he shot him, and that his hands were up. I'm not defending him shoplifting(not robbing the store), and trying to run from police, but he did not have to be killed.

Trayvon Martin was the 17 year old killed by a wanna be cop, George Zimmerman. Trayvon was walking down the street talking on his phone, doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman deserves to be in prison. He's had numerous confrontations and assault charges against him before and after he killed Trayvon, but his dad used to be a judge, so he was able to pull strings and get the charges dropped against him. Zimmerman is a deranged man with a very unstable temper, and it's only a matter of time before he kills someone else.

It's really disturbing that a lot of people rejoice in the murder of Trayvon Martin, a 17 year old black kid that did absolutely nothing wrong, except walking while black. Sadly, Trayvon has been made out to be a thug that deserved to be killed, while racists rally around George Zimmerman as a hero. I fear that's why his name came to mind when you wrote that comment, since there has been a successful smear campaign against him. That's so sad because he is a victim of murder, and he deserves to have his name remembered in a dignified way.

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Sorry. I stand corrected. Martin was shot by a security guard? And then he tried to sell the gun he used. Despicable. But Brown had beaten that cop. His eye socket was dislocated, and he tried to grab his gun. As Brown left, the officer was going to arrest him and told him to freeze, and yes, Brown did raise his hands, but it was as he lunged at the officer. That death was justified. Sorry I got the names mixed up. That "hands up, don't shoot" stuff was totally made up.

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There has been A LOT of false information about both of these cases, and unfortunately in many others involving the shootings of young black men.

The officer's eye socket was not broken. It was a made up report, and there was even a photo of another man with facial injuries taken off of social media that was falsely identified as officer Wilson.

Here are the actual photos of his "injuries"

There are several videos taken right after the shooting. Two construction workers that witnessed the shooting yelled that he was surrendering and had his hands up. Michael Brown was running away from the officer, and after being shot the first time he was going to get on the ground. The officer shot him a total of 6 times, and continued shooting after he was on the ground.

Trayvon Martin is a very different case. He was just walking down the street, and George Zimmerman, a volunteer neighborhood watch confronted him. He had been following Trayvon for a while in his truck because he thought he looked "suspicious". He got out armed with a gun to confront Trayvon. They got into a fight, and Trayvon ended up with a bullet to the heart. And he did sell the gun. The auction ended at over $100,000 although I don't know if he actually got that money. Sick people wanted to own the gun for notoriety.

Too often when young black men end up dead from a police shooting there are attempts to cover up, make up lies, and basically say they brought it on themselves. I know that black on black violence is a huge problem, but that doesn't justify officers getting away with murder. Or using self defense laws to protect a trigger happy man that confronts a teenager because he's black. It happens far too often. There have been several recent police shootings where conveniently the officer's body camera doesn't record the actual shooting. Cases like these are what's fueling the black lives matter movement, for good reason. They aren't placing the importance of their lives over anyone else, which is how a lot of people are trying to twist their words. They just want to be treated as if their lives are valued equally, and want justice to be served when someone gets killed.

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His eye socket was dislocated, not broken. But Soros actually promised rioters $5,000 each to burn down buildings, which he didn't pay. He also supports BLM. Did you see their list of demands? Chanting for dead cops and destroying property makes them a terrorist organization. The ones who get hurt are the minority owned small businesses that they loot and destroy.

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It was falsely reported that his eye socket was fractured. I don't know what a dislocated eye socket is. I would assume that means the eyeball comes out of the socket. Either way his injuries are minor which is clearly visible in the pictures. He also shot from a far distance.

The BLM movement's goal is to get justice for the people being killed. There may be some people inciting violence against police, but that does not reflect the entire movement.

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posted August 24, 2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And who are burning down buildings? Peaceful protests are protected speech. But those who commit these acts should be sent to prison.

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