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NickiG
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posted January 06, 2011 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fatinkerbel:
Ooh NickiG don't tempt me to start lecturing on grammar!!! Anyways I think basically the similarity to Japanese grammar is the verb is always at the end of a sentence and particles are used to attach to words to indicate their function in a sentence. That's different from English because in English we use word order to indicate what each word is doing in the sentence. Example: The boy kissed the girl. Because boy is in the "subject"position we know it's the subject. However Korean would say Boy-ga (ga being subject particle) girl-ul (ul being object particle) kissed. If you mix ga and ul up you can keep the word order as is:
Boy-rul (ul for consonants, rul for vowels) girl-i (uhm ... the subject particle is i for consonants and ga for vowels) kissed, and that would mean it was the girl doing the kissing : ) I don't know much about Japanese grammar, it's just that all the textbooks say Korean grammar and Japanese grammar are similar, so I was kinda just repeating that. The Korean writing system is unique though because it is phonetic and not based on pictograms like Chinese and Japanese. Anyways good luck with your Japanese studies and yes come over here to Asia ... it's a total mind - 'you know what' (f # c k). If you're into that kind of thing you'll enjoy it here : ) It's like living on another planet sometimes : D


mm, yes, i know one verb, the most important verb of all, desu "to be". i always see that at the end of a sentence so i can at least do a very small sentence...such as introducing myself "Nicki desu" lol

and that part about living on another planet, LOL...i'll bet anything it'll feel like home to me

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fatinkerbel
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posted January 06, 2011 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Ann... my native language is Afrikaans ... the language of the oppressor! Seriously. Apartheid is an Afrikaans word. Afrikaans is a modern version of Dutch and they are close enough together that I can understand Dutch as long as people speak it slowly. Flemish (wait is that the right word?) is apparently the most similar to Afrikaans. Also Belgian. But it's also similar to German and I studied German at school and for one year at university but I'd need some practise to get fluent in it. But let's say I could go to Germany today and find my way around. In fact I once got a fortune telling from a German fortune teller and I was able to understand her with some difficulty but nevertheless I understood her. That was when I was on my way to visit my future ex-husband, whoc was Italian. The German fortune teller said their would be someone else for me, not the Italian guy. Anyway in my first year at university I studied Italian ... but not very hard, then when I met my future ex-husband I hit the Italian books and actually since his family couldn't speak English I just ended up having to speak to it and then I read a lot of Italian comics and Italian is like my third language at the moment. Then I wanted to study French but just for a short while so I can't really understand it because it's VERY similar to Italian in many ways. Oh I studied Latin which really clarifies Italian AND French and German. And now I'm styding my @ss of for Korean because I reckon I could make a really good life here since there are so very few foreigners who speak Korean. So actually I want to immigrate to Korea. It's a fascinating place ... many strengths, many weaknesses, but a lot of potential.

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posted January 06, 2011 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-17W6tUfDU

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posted January 06, 2011 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSLzTMfZn58

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posted January 06, 2011 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami you wrote ...

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I think we,always,get compensating gifts for our sorrows.
God,always ,provides a way out.
The road is so difficult that many travelers stop by the side or do not attempt to go ,in the first place.
The hard part is going on the road,I think.
What is the road----being who you ARE.

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That's the million dollar question! Who am I??

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posted January 06, 2011 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're you! Be who you want.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 06, 2011 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For people without significant abuse,the answer to "Who am I?" may be obvious.
However,when you have significant abuse it is NOT
In that answer IS the healing.


PS Tonight ,I had a strong psychic thing happen to me. THAT shows me things will be OK.


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fatinkerbel
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posted January 06, 2011 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an English recording class: http://www.singsnap.com/snap/watchandlisten/play/bb897ffda

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NickiG
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posted January 06, 2011 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://69.16.184.131/g9z6c6z5/cds/p/e/0/7/e074fafc49c8effd/HolidaySpecial04.mp3?sid=8db29fedc372780747c690e835aa7ddc&l_sid=24384&l_eid=&l_mid=2209167&dopvhost=hw.libsyn.com&doppl=4 5795e13085fcf8a080fcf8a4d1f771d&dopsig=dd66a7ebb7249a45fca936a386a7dd39

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Ami Anne
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posted January 07, 2011 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Fatinkerbel
Did you feel you had a self up until your father abused you?
Did you ever feel you had a defined sense of self?
I did until 14.
Some people never do.
The age at which people lost their selves is important.
If it was later ,it is easier to get it back.
Some people who were abused as babies and young children never had the chance to develop a sense of self.
These cases are very,very sad.
I know that God can do miracles in all cases ,though.
It is just easier if you lost your self at a later age.
My sense from you is that you lost it at a later age.
From your autobiography,I get that sense.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 07, 2011 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A big chunk of depression left me,yesterday.
When I woke up ,today,it was gone.
You know how you wake up and put your armor on.
Well,it was like a tooth that was gone,I could not feel it ,anymore.

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posted January 07, 2011 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we defined the problem of HOW you go numb/get depressed/emotionally ill

The answer is the only part that matters.
On my Kundalini Yoga DVD,Ana Brett says that depression can be healed if you can find and express your true self.

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posted January 07, 2011 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That brings you back to "HOW"

I think I found some ways.
The price is really bad pain but nothing God can't handle.
God sends people to you,too,very,very wonderful people.
I,always,get sent the best.I ,always,have.I bet you do ,too,Fatinkerbel.
It is just my guess but I think I am right.

Between people and God with flesh i.e the special people in your life, you can hanlde the pain.

Actually,in time,it becomes a relief to let it out rather than to have to TRY to keep it in with a variety of means such as addictions,co--dependency etc

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posted January 07, 2011 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A kid who has access to all his feelings will not be depressed.
An animal is not depressed unless outside trauma happens.
The child who still has his true self is the model for emotional health.

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posted January 07, 2011 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the really scary thing is to "be yourself"
If you shut down/went numb at a young age,you have thrown your true self away.
You have a shiny false self and are co-dependent.
This false self NEVER wants to make a mistake or be disliked cuz it hurts ,terribly.
The pain is excruciating cuz the true self can hold you up.
The false self can't.
The false self is made of cotton candy.
The true self is made of iron

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posted January 07, 2011 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you go from the false self to the true self,you will hurt like nothing else lol
You will be insecure like nothing else.
You will feel like you want to die and disintegrate.
You MADE the false self to protect against pain.
When it dies,the pain comes OUT.
You feel it.
This is the pain I am talking about.

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posted January 07, 2011 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As the false self goes, you feel a strength of your true self.
Little by little ,your true self gets born.
It is like a baby colt walking after birth.
It is very faltering.
The worst thing is when people don't like you.
You wonder if you are bad.
Is it OK if people don't like you?
Does it reflect on you in such a way to make you bad?
These questions have to be answered with the gut.
Anyone can answer them with the head.Few can answer them with the gut.
Hence, the Milgrim experiment.

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posted January 07, 2011 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reclaiming your true self MEANS reclaiming Nessus.
That is where I am ,today.
I will come back later to write.
Nessus is ugly. No one wants to look at it.
If you don't,it will bite you from the outside.
Better to be bitten by your OWN Nessus' than someone else's .
I should put that in my Sig

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posted January 07, 2011 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my other observation that I just wanted to note
If you see a really screwed up person, s/he
cannot help it.
He can help actions which are determined by conscience which is another part of us separate from emotional illness/health/
He cannot help how he got twisted,though.
That was simple defense mechanisms.
The defense mechanisms MUST come off in a right brain way for the person to truly be a new and different person,IME.

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posted January 07, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the simple difference between emotional illness and health is if you can FEEL.
A child can feel what is happening around him( and inside of him)
A child knows when a person is bad or good. A child knows when someone likes him or not.
A child knows who is safe.
If you want a true opinion of someone,ask a child or a dog

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posted January 07, 2011 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As distortions go, you begin to feel, for YOURSELF.
Then, you don't need someone else to tell you what is going on.
Your barometer/compass feels it.
Then,you can feel safe.
That is why I never felt safe.
My compass was lost to me.
If not lost,severely disabled .

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posted January 08, 2011 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just had a flash of intuition.I KNOW I am on the right track with this stuff

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posted January 09, 2011 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well before my father abused me my sense of self was that I was a genius and that I had to do something important with my life. After my father abused me I felt like I wasn't as clever as I thought I was. Now I'm starting to think I'm clever again. But my father left me with the feeling that my cleverness is of no use because I am too idealistic and therefore I'll never 'make it' in the real world - financially and so on. Also after my father abused me I used sex as a way to get people to like me so I never knew if they really liked me or not. I was just an easy lay, if you know what I mean. The self I never had is the self of first love, taking things slowly, the physical being a big step etc. I 'passed go' in that respect. I'm romantically challenged like you can't imagine.

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posted January 09, 2011 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't let any problems in Sweet peas deter you from writing,Fatinkebel.It has nothing to do with you.
My passion is to heal and I will not be detered from it. You will have no problems,either.I PROMISE you that,if you have been concerned.
I am strong and I stand behind you.
You have my word on that

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posted January 09, 2011 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back to the topic of the thread.
When you have been abused, you throw away parts of yourself.
The biggest part would be your "self value"
You threw away your "sexual purity" if I can say it like that.
You threw away the part of you which said you were WORTH having value in your sexuality.

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