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LEXX
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posted March 14, 2011 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Another inexpensive way of getting massage is going straight to the student clinics at the Massage Therapy schools...

Often times you'll pay around twenty-five dollars for a full hour therapy.



There might be some like 4 hours round trip away.
Too far to go.
Also there are complications that students would not be qualified to deal with.
Only a chiroprator would know how to not cause me more injury.

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posted March 14, 2011 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LEXX:

There might be some like 4 hours round trip away.
Too far to go.
Also there are complications that students would not be qualified to deal with.
Only a chiroprator would know how to not cause me more injury.

Yikes. Sorry to hear all of that.......

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LEXX
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posted March 14, 2011 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Wow. I will sound annoying for a few minutes making suggestions... but any chance the home owner's ins will cover it? Disability benefits? Local charities? Anything?

Life sounds terrible there, LEXX.



Sigh.
See why I am bummed out?
Once I get divorced I might be eligible for things.
I live in a handyman special.
Basic homeowners insurance for substandard old houses does not cover previous damage that got worse.
No, we are just on the very edge of being poor enough to be eligible for help.
The poor live way better here.
They get all kinds of free things, including home repair.
I really feel weird b!tching here.

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LEXX
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posted March 14, 2011 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PlutoSquared
Bless you for trying to help and hearing my b!tching.

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posted March 14, 2011 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LEXX:
PlutoSquared
Bless you for trying to help and hearing my b!tching.

No problem, LEXX. It's bad, and it's ok to b#tch it out.

If I were you, I'd go down to the courthouse and pick up the divorce paperwork from the county clerk... it should cost about fifty bucks. Without lawyers and being uncomplicated, you should be able to get the divorce done quick.

That way you can free yourself up for whatever benefits and help you can get as a single woman.

Obviously not knowing all details, I try to give whatever advice. Forgive me if I miss the mark.

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posted March 14, 2011 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
No problem, LEXX. It's bad, and it's ok to b#tch it out.

If I were you, I'd go down to the courthouse and pick up the divorce paperwork from the county clerk... it should cost about fifty bucks. Without lawyers and being uncomplicated, you should be able to get the divorce done quick.

That way you can free yourself up for whatever benefits and help you can get as a single woman.

Obviously not knowing all details, I try to give whatever advice. Forgive me if I miss the mark.


We are looking into all the options.
The separate living looks financially impossible at this time though.
We have only one car and it is 11 years old.
Neither one of us can afford separate living expenses and another car.
And I need some medical done before I go off his insurance. Medicare will not cover certain things and I cannot afford to pay out of pocket.
And my living alone and his, with our health issues, living alone is a bad idea.
And yes, we intend to do a do it yourself divorce, no extra costs.
We are definitely going over every possible idea.
One is one or both of us moving to country(ies) with free medical care.
It is just so discouraging and exhausting.
On that note;
off to sleep and visualize better times to come.
I have not given up, even when bummed out.
If I had given up;
no one here would know;
because I would just not be here and sooner or later someone would wonder where I went.
So as long as I am griping, I have not given up.
Sigh.


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pire
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posted March 14, 2011 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry to interrupt but it sound so tragic Lexx...

if your house is a handyman special, it is good news. you can become a handy woman, a special one.

are you the owner?

I want to do that too, buy an old house and repair it. there is everything I need on internet to do it properly, professionnally.

take care

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posted March 14, 2011 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
No problem, LEXX. It's bad, and it's ok to b#tch it out.

If I were you, I'd go down to the courthouse and pick up the divorce paperwork from the county clerk... it should cost about fifty bucks. Without lawyers and being uncomplicated, you should be able to get the divorce done quick.

That way you can free yourself up for whatever benefits and help you can get as a single woman.

Obviously not knowing all details, I try to give whatever advice. Forgive me if I miss the mark.


quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
We are looking into all the options.
The separate living looks financially impossible at this time though.
We have only one car and it is 11 years old.
Neither one of us can afford separate living expenses and another car.
And I need some medical done before I go off his insurance. Medicare will not cover certain things and I cannot afford to pay out of pocket.
And my living alone and his, with our health issues, living alone is a bad idea.
And yes, we intend to do a do it yourself divorce, no extra costs.
We are definitely going over every possible idea.
One is one or both of us moving to country(ies) with free medical care.
It is just so discouraging and exhausting.
On that note;
off to sleep and visualize better times to come.
I have not given up, even when bummed out.
If I had given up;
no one here would know;
because I would just not be here and sooner or later someone would wonder where I went.
So as long as I am griping, I have not given up.
Sigh.


LEXX, don't you be like that! I sent you an email after not seeing you around for a day. Someone woould know, and we all would care! You best believe it girl.

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lalalinda
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posted March 14, 2011 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't do depression well so I avoid the triggers
but sometimes it just can't be helped.

Support Groups can be beneficial.

Writing down how you feel can help release those emotions,
get it all out and then put it away.

A heart to heart with someone who loves you helps,
sometimes just verbalizing can help put what you're feeling into perspective.

Music can be soothing.

as a side note:
Each Element handles Depression differently,
if there is a preponderance of Water in the Natal,
then it is part of their nature to deal with periodic highs and lows
so they will work through it.

Air signs might try to deal with it logically, rationally, and/or reasonably
while they (pep) talk themselves through it.

The Earth signs will try and take it in stride
except for Virgo who may obsess about it.

Fire signs are gutted by depression,
it challenges who they are and sends them into a tailspin
and in danger of losing hope so they would benefit with professional help.

Sending everyone who needs a hug,
a hug

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Ami Anne
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posted March 14, 2011 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have found a way to get rid of much of my depression.
I put together several theories and found one that worked for me.
For practical solutions, the tried and true one still stands--help someone else.
When you give, God surrounds you with love

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted March 14, 2011 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My program is taken from Homeopathy.
Like cures like.
This is the theory behind vaccinations.
Often, the same thing can cure things such as rubbing snow on frostbite will help it, I have heard.
Coffee can help hyperactive children,for example.

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posted March 14, 2011 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Homeopathy sees the body as TRYING to heal. It never cuts off a symptom such as a fever.
It honors the body's responses to get to homeostasis.
It believes the symptoms show you the way to get there.
The saddest story is when the body cannot produce symptoms cuz it is too weak.
Then,there is little you can do.

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posted March 14, 2011 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, symptoms are to be honored in Homeopathy.
I apply the Homeopathic principles to depression.
You take IN the depression.You take in the pain. You pull it in.
It will hurt,terribly.
*I* needed a spiritual outlet to deal with the pain.
I needed kind special friends who had kind and loving hearts .
I needed to be able to share my deepest pains, insecurities and shame with people who understood and would let me cry.
When you cry, the pain can be taken out and away.
I feel good now. I am sorry for those who are suffering. May you find your way out.



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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 14, 2011 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe when one experiences depression they've found themselves in a negative vortex where illness piles and piles through Law of Attraction which is always working all the time.

It's good to switch focus. Start small. Don't go from an extremely depressive state to trying to imagine your life being completely resolved and perfect because that will only frustrate you and go against your faith and belief and thus put you back into the negative vortex. But envisioning having a nice afternoon or evening or even a nice quiet walk into the supermarket or a coffee shop or envisioning anything that brings you a little joy and peace will get the ball rolling in the right way. You will see that positive envisioning will affect your everyday life in a good way, this will increase your belief that your envisioning does indeed come into your experience

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LEXX
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posted March 14, 2011 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice thread EES
Thank you pire & TxGirl

I was trying to restore my original thread, and still might do so.
However......
The advice here is great for the psychologically/bio-chemically based depression,
but not the other kinds.

Law of Attraction?
I did not attract my problems which have made me and make me need to fight depression throughout my life to date;
Birth defects, childhood rapes, brain/body damage from a drunk hitting me with car, lost over 26 pregnancies, industrial accident resulting in permanent damage I cannot just think away, assaulted physically resulting in broken bones, and just more more more crap.
I detest the new age concept that blames me and others for all my/our troubles.
Oh yeah, sure, right, oh yes, I attracted and asked for all the bad shite, it is my fault.
Negative thoughts caused it, its all my fault
Bullshite!
Excuse me whilst I go tell disabled folks or folks injured by others, "its all you're fault! Your negative thoughts and you asked for it(LOA) you are a real loser stop whining and think positive thoughts and angels will descend from above
and blow sunshine and daisies up your tukas and you will be made miraculously healthy wealthy and wise!
Hallelujah!"

A good optimistic attitude is great.
But to deny reality is stupid.

If I have offended anyone, sorry.

I do not have anything much more to contribute at this time.


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~Balance is not letting anyone love you less than you love yourself.~Felipe
~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX }><}}}(*>~

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posted March 14, 2011 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LEXX, I am sorry to have offended you in any way, and no I don't believe that you attracted childhood rape, deformities etc to yourself

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posted March 14, 2011 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
LEXX, I am sorry to have ffended you in any way, and no I don't believe that you attracted this to you
No you have not.
I am just so damn fraking tired and frustrated.
I am tired of not being normal.
I am tired of being unable to "just" go do normal things most folks take for granted.
I count my blessings every day.
Each day I am not blind and not partially paralyzed, I thank God!
When such bad things pass,
I thank God!
However,
I am so tired of struggling.
I am usually upbeat, I help lots of folks too even when I feel awful.
And yes I continue to treasure map and take pleasure out of the little things in life.
Sorry.
I should stay offline today.
Sorry.
{{{hugs}}} to you.

PS.
Example:
I posted last year about how happy I was feeling and so very optimistic!
I was on top of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then next day I had a mini stroke.
A few days later my husband tries to kill himself,(side effect of his seizure med, "can cause suicidal ideation")
Then part of roof blew off and chimney started falling and one sh!tty thing after another.
It just seems to happen....no fraking warnings, totally unexpected shite!
Why???????????????
Why literally when I feel emotionally great?
And doing better than usual physically?
Why when I do plan things, optimistically,
looking forward to them,
that sh!te slams me out of the blue when I AM BEING/FEELING HAPPY AND OPTIMISTIC?
LIKE WTF?
Rant over.
Sorry.

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posted March 14, 2011 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx, I am sorry you are hurting and have experienced so much pain in the past. I'm here for you and you have my friendship

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posted March 14, 2011 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not offended at all, Lexx I care and am here for you. I completely understand why you are upset This is no sugar coat, LL politics or bullsh*t. I feel for you very much and wish there was a way I could help.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LEXX,

I used to worry that if I was too happy, that bad stuff would happen. That's a trick of the mind, though.

Bad stuff happens when you're happy or sad... it's just part of the chaotic universe we're in...

I agree that many people will try to say that others are responsible for uncontrollable stuff - but, that's just the human ego deluding itself into believing that we have ultimate control of what happens externally.

The fact is, many times we have no control over what happens in the world - and many times, to us.

We can control the now through our action in the sense of how we react, and I hope that even though you're in physical, emotional, spiritual pain, that you remember that even in the midst of the storm, that it will all pass. The sun will come out again.

You've been through a lot, LEXX. And, in many ways, I look up to you as a survivor of so many things. I truly believe that even in this moment, you have the strength to decide how you will face your future... you can choose whatever you want.

You are a Scorpio, afterall.

You guys are built from the strongest material.

Anyways, thanks for making your points, because I feel some sense of protection and liberation from them.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 14, 2011 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to make it clear that I am not sure exactly why depression happens to us. But, I do believe we have the power to get out of it with spirituality. I like encouraging people to try this method as it has done alot for me

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posted March 14, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes everyday stresses like money, work or bad relationships can attribute to depression. I know this was the case with me when my symptoms began to become worse. Sometimes it's a matter of having all your bills paid that can make a world of difference in a depressive mood

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posted March 14, 2011 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
Sometimes everyday stresses like money, work or bad relationships can attribute to depression. I know this was the case with me when my symptoms began to become worse. Sometimes it's a matter of having all your bills paid that can make a world of difference in a depressive mood
Yes, it is often hardship or trauma or abuse and so forth that cause a person to feel depressed.
Especially when no immediate or even possible change for better is in realistic sight.

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posted March 14, 2011 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PlutoSquared{{{hugs}}}

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