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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 13, 2011 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What some ways you deal with depression? I like to change my vibration/intention. I talked about gratitude journals in the last thread and they seem to be very effective.

Please share your thoughts.

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PlutoSquared
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posted March 13, 2011 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 13, 2011 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 13, 2011 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laughing is great medicine. I also find that putting 100% focus on my work/school can alleviate symptoms.

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 13, 2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://storycorps.org/ is a wonderful sight where regular folks express their hardships on hundreds of different podcasts. From being homeless, to being gay and discriminated against, from drugs to divorce. It lets us know as a whole that we aren't alone. I did also post this on another thread that I had to close so I will post it here in case anyone wants to take a look.

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LEXX
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posted March 13, 2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
What some ways you deal with depression? I like to change my vibration/intention. I talked about gratitude journals in the last thread and they seem to be very effective.

Please share your thoughts



Treasure Mapping helps.
I have the worse time coping when I am in unavoidable pain or worse.
Those times there is very little one can do to cope, but lay there and try not think of death.


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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 13, 2011 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
What some ways you deal with depression? I like to change my vibration/intention. I talked about gratitude journals in the last thread and they seem to be very effective.

Please share your thoughts



quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
Treasure Mapping helps.
I have the worse time coping when I am in unavoidable pain or worse.
Those times there is very little one can do to cope, but lay there and try not to think of death.

I can imagine when one is in so much pain the last thing you want to do is treasure map or use a gratitude journal I wish I had more suggestions as far as physical pain. I am sorry, LEXX.

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PlutoSquared
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posted March 13, 2011 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiking in mountains in sunshine with children.

And,

Prayer.

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PlutoSquared
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posted March 13, 2011 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, you're in pain, LEXX.

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PlutoSquared
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posted March 13, 2011 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Water also helps me cope. Lots of water...

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PlutoSquared
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posted March 13, 2011 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius' really help me cope, too. Something about Aquarians make me really happy.

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LEXX
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posted March 13, 2011 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
I can imagine when one is in so much pain the last thing you want to do is treasure map or use a gratitude journal I wish I had more suggestions as far as physical pain. I am sorry, LEXX.

I can often force myself through the less painful pain, and be optimistic.
However the day I began the original thread,
I had 2 blindness episodes before posting and later that day. Hard to read or journal that way.
I do get right back to "living" as soon as able.
In fact I walked on treadmill betwixt the episodes, still blind in one eye, and even though in tears grimacing from pain, kept going. I will walk unaided eventually. I have to.
I do not remember what pain free is like.
I do count my blessings though;
as I am not as bad off as I was.
I just want to get better.
Financial has me down too.
Even though ex and I are still friends, it is not the best thing, having to live with each other still due to finances.
I feel trapped.
I will re-post some from lost thread later.
I need a break.


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Chahldean
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posted March 13, 2011 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo All

As most may know or not,
Being sad is one thing,
but depression is a dis-ease.
A dis-ease that is not all that easily cured.
It is intertwined with so many other emotions
as well as being chemically unbalanced.
Usually depression is a genetic dis-Order
that is passed on through the family.

There are many ways to deal with "being depressed"
but depression runs deeper than that.
Recognizing it is one thing.
Counseling is another.
Exercise certainly helps.
Hobbies and activities also work well.
Laughter certainly will alleviate the Black Dog at times.

There are also nutrients that will help balance depression.
Minerals like Niacin have be known to work wonders.
Studies have shown that heavy doses of Niacin
have helped even the most depressed patients.
Also, Sunshine or it's equivalent D3 have helped,
if you aren't in a "sunny climate".
There are also "natural lightbulbs" that simulate Natural Light
for your environment.
I read there are "light rooms" in parts of Scandinavia
where they experience depression due to the long Winters
and lack of Sunshine and it works well.

Most of All...... talk about it!

I have attached a good site with health info:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/depression.html


I certainly hope this helps.

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LEXX
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posted March 14, 2011 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chahldean:
Halo All

As most may know or not,
Being sad is one thing,
but depression is a dis-ease.
A dis-ease that is not all that easily cured.
It is intertwined with so many other emotions
as well as being chemically unbalanced.
Usually depression is a genetic dis-Order
that is passed on through the family.

There are many ways to deal with "being depressed"
but depression runs deeper than that.
Recognizing it is one thing.
Counseling is another.
Exercise certainly helps.
Hobbies and activities also work well.
Laughter certainly will alleviate the Black Dog at times.

There are also nutrients that will help balance depression.
Minerals like Niacin have be known to work wonders.
Studies have shown that heavy doses of Niacin
have helped even the most depressed patients.
Also, Sunshine or it's equivalent D3 have helped,
if you aren't in a "sunny climate".
There are also "natural lightbulbs" that simulate Natural Light
for your environment.
I read there are "light rooms" in parts of Scandinavia
where they experience depression due to the long Winters
and lack of Sunshine and it works well.

Most of All...... talk about it!

I have attached a good site with health info:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/depression.html


I certainly hope this helps.


Chahldean
Hope life is going well for you!

Yes I agree, for mentally caused depression, chemical imbalances in the brain.
That can happen even to folks in perfect physical health and with money to burn.

That is not the same as mine.
My mind is fine.
But it is very hard to be all upbeat and not depressed when one is in real physical pain, or bed bound from disabilities,even temporarily but reoccurring, or having neurological blindness, wondering as one lays there, wondering if their sight will return, wondering when the pain will let up.
Wanting to be just normal.
These ills all proven medically,
not psychosomatic, but very real.....
Yeah, when its bad, depression is hard to avoid.
So my depression issues are not psychological. There is no brain/med fix for this kind.

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PlutoSquared
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posted March 14, 2011 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chahldean:
Halo All

As most may know or not,
Being sad is one thing,
but depression is a dis-ease.
A dis-ease that is not all that easily cured.
It is intertwined with so many other emotions
as well as being chemically unbalanced.
Usually depression is a genetic dis-Order
that is passed on through the family.

There are many ways to deal with "being depressed"
but depression runs deeper than that.
Recognizing it is one thing.
Counseling is another.
Exercise certainly helps.
Hobbies and activities also work well.
Laughter certainly will alleviate the Black Dog at times.

There are also nutrients that will help balance depression.
Minerals like Niacin have be known to work wonders.
Studies have shown that heavy doses of Niacin
have helped even the most depressed patients.
Also, Sunshine or it's equivalent D3 have helped,
if you aren't in a "sunny climate".
There are also "natural lightbulbs" that simulate Natural Light
for your environment.
I read there are "light rooms" in parts of Scandinavia
where they experience depression due to the long Winters
and lack of Sunshine and it works well.

Most of All...... talk about it!

I have attached a good site with health info:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/depression.html


I certainly hope this helps.


Thank you Chahldean. I liked your post.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Massage therapy is also very helpful for pain management and depression. Why this was not one of the first things I posted - I dunno

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LEXX
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posted March 14, 2011 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Massage therapy is also very helpful for pain management and depression. Why this was not one of the first things I posted - I dunno
Oh yes!
Very good indeed!
I wish it was not so costly, massage therapy.
I definitely cannot afford such.
It would help my body woes too.
Therein lies more reasons for my being bummed out.
I cannot afford the medical treatments that would help, nor the dental, and more.
Sigh

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posted March 14, 2011 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Massage therapy is also very helpful for pain management and depression. Why this was not one of the first things I posted - I dunno
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
Oh yes!
Very good indeed!
I wish it was not so costly, massage therapy.
I definitely cannot afford such.
It would help my body woes too.
Therein lies more reasons for my being bummed out.
I cannot afford the medical treatments that would help, nor the dental, and more.
Sigh


Well, it's a darn shame you're not local here. You should definitely check into some sort of health insurance coverage for massage... wherever there's a chiropractor that accepts your insurance and a massage therapist on staff, you'll have the opportunity to have it covered.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Well, it's a darn shame you're not local here. You should definitely check into some sort of health insurance coverage for massage... wherever there's a chiropractor that accepts your insurance and a massage therapist on staff, you'll have the opportunity to have it covered.
Where are you?
I am in the USA.
I do have health insurance which costs about $450 a month plus deductibles and co-pays.
It does not cover but a small amount of chiropractic and definitely not any massage.
Oh believe me, I have looked into it.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
Where are you?
I am in the USA.
I do have health insurance which costs about $450 a month plus deductibles and co-pays.
It does not cover but a small amount of chiropractic and definitely not any massage.
Oh believe me, I have looked into it.


I'm in Colorado...

That's a shame your ins is so expensive and doesn't cover massage, at all.
From what I recall, when I was working for a Chiropractor, BCBS and Aetna, even UnitedHealthCare had certain plans that covered massage.

I hope you'll find a MT close to you who will help you out, during this bad time.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another inexpensive way of getting massage is going straight to the student clinics at the Massage Therapy schools...

Often times you'll pay around twenty-five dollars for a full hour therapy.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I'm in Colorado...

That's a shame your ins is so expensive and doesn't cover massage, at all.
From what I recall, when I was working for a Chiropractor, BCBS and Aetna, even UnitedHealthCare had certain plans that covered massage.

I hope you'll find a MT close to you who will help you out, during this bad time.


Thank you.
I have looked for over two decades and not found any.
And no way to get there if I did.
And soon I will lose my insurance except for near worthless Medicare; when my ex and I are officially divorced.
So yeah, more worries looming.
Sorry for being gloomy.
Hopefully I will find the energy to finish the books ex and I have been working on, and when I can, and when he is not exhausted from work or having too many seizures.
And the roof does not cave in first, with the huge 3 foot hole in it already.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depression can be caused by circumstances which can abate or be overcome.
Depression can be overcome with positive thinking.
Does anyone not really see it as a illness, more a state of mind, i think it can be overcome, more easy than people think. I understand things happen and people get down. I just don't think depression is a mental illness. I Think a big a deal of it is made,to put people on anti-depressants for years untill they get addicted.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rajji:
depression can be caused by circumstances which can abate or be overcome.
Depression can be overcome with positive thinking.
Does anyone not really see it as a illness, more a state of mind, i think it can be overcome, more easy than people think. I understand things happen and people get down. I just don't think depression is a mental illness. I Think a big a deal of it is made,to put people on anti-depressants for years untill they get addicted.

I wish that were true for all folks.
But like my ex, there is a definite bio-chemical problem which tests do prove.
Its related to his seizures which are not responding well to meds and the other cure is brain surgery, which may or may not cure.
So he is in a bad spot.
It is not something he can think away.
But yes, often drugs are given to folks who do not have a bio-chemical depression.

As to my circumstances being overcome...well money sure would help, but my neurological damage is not just going to go away, and other damage, so yeah, I get very bummed out about my circumstances.
How to abate or overcome?
I can't just hop out and get a job.
I can't just be not disabled.

Yes, purely non physical based depression can be overcome.
But physically based,
lots more difficult.
And it all takes money in the long run to cure or alleviate.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by LEXX:
quote:
Thank you.
I have looked for over two decades and not found any.
And no way to get there if I did.
And soon I will lose my insurance except for near worthless Medicare; when my ex and I are officially divorced.
So yeah, more worries looming.
Sorry for being gloomy.
Hopefully I will find the energy to finish the books ex and I have been working on, and when I can, and when he is not exhausted from work or having too many seizures.
And the roof does not cave in first, with the huge 3 foot hole in it already.

Wow. I will sound annoying for a few minutes making suggestions... but any chance the home owner's ins will cover it? Disability benefits? Local charities? Anything?

Life sounds terrible there, LEXX.

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