posted March 14, 2011 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I don't do depression well so I avoid the triggers
but sometimes it just can't be helped.

Support Groups can be beneficial.

Writing down how you feel can help release those emotions,
get it all out and then put it away.

A heart to heart with someone who loves you helps,
sometimes just verbalizing can help put what you're feeling into perspective.

Music can be soothing.

as a side note:
Each Element handles Depression differently,
if there is a preponderance of Water in the Natal,
then it is part of their nature to deal with periodic highs and lows
so they will work through it.

Air signs might try to deal with it logically, rationally, and/or reasonably
while they (pep) talk themselves through it.

The Earth signs will try and take it in stride
except for Virgo who may obsess about it.

Fire signs are gutted by depression,
it challenges who they are and sends them into a tailspin
and in danger of losing hope so they would benefit with professional help.

Sending everyone who needs a hug,
a hug

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posted March 14, 2011 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by pire:
Lexx, may be my question is out of place so don't reply if you think so, and you'll find me a bit nosy, but I wanted to know if you were owner of your house or if you rented it. cause if you are the owner, then you can decide to repair it and be an handyman or woman , and if you rent it, then you can probably move, may be not on the very short term though...

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posted March 14, 2011 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
Yes, and that's when I'd wanna take my gratitude journal and either rip it in half or dump in the trash. It's hard when one cannot see a feasible way out of a dire situation

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posted March 14, 2011 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by TxGirl:
LEXX, I added you to my messenger so that way it may be easier instead of emails if we are both on. If you have it awesome if not emails are okay lol.

I have no input here, yall all great ideas!

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Busy day here, so please bear with me dear one.

posted March 14, 2011 05:45 PM            

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~SUFFERING~

No I do not believe it is always related to what one gives or causes suffering wise; but perhaps more to "what does not give". And that means even to one's self.

I lived hard and fast and fully before becoming disabled. I have packed perhaps 3 lifetimes into this one to date.

Born a natural psychic/medium/trancer etcetera, I did not try to improve on them.
I still helped folks and endeavored to show compassion and all. But I was first and foremost interested in material aquisitions and physical strength, agility, and prowess. I could lift massive weights, have trophies for it too. I even to my horror broke another person's arm in a professional arm wrestling match. That was my last match, by my choice.
I was fit and strong with muscles that obeyed my every command. I could do flips and backflips and put both feet behind my neck. Much more. I was buff and very strong and flexible. No yoga position was beyond me.
But I was neglecting my spiritual/psychic self, going on with only my natural born skills and knowlege. But something was missing. I was not happy.
I wanted more time to devote to that aspect of my being. And I wanted to understand humanity in all its diversity.
I made a serious pact with God.
I heard these words..."It will be the hardest thing you have ever done. You could die. Are you ready?"
I said Yes.
Three days later (1989) I went from athletic, energetic, physically fit.....to suddenly sometimes bedridden and wearing diapers with episodes of paralysis and black blindness. I had left my husband #1. I was living in a trailer with a hole 10 feet by 5 inches near one wall at the ceiling. I had no heat or electricity. I had a mattress on the floor. No fridge or much of anything. Suddenly all I had was my psychic/spiritual world to keep me sane. It was February and very cold. I lived by kerosine lantern and bundled up breathing into my sleeping bag to stay warm. Then my toilet died.(fortunately it was late Spring then) It took me five weeks to dig a new line for the septic tank whilst laying on the ground digging and resting and even sleeping on the ground(too much effort to get up so I slept there) as I slowly dug with a little trowel that trench for a new pipe. Something that in my fit days would have taken only an hour or so took then about 5 weeks on and off. It is strange the meditations one enters during such times, face in the dirt, arm dangling into a trench, utterly broken and exhausted.
Often having to crawl back inside at night as I could not walk. The insights into many things accelerated. Later on with therapy I improved a little physically but was still disabled. I would go to the grocery store after hours and a bar, to dumpster dig. One evening I met another dumpster diver. We divvied up the vegetables and other salvagible eats. She had been a physicist who had had a breakdown and a stroke. Soon the bar owner and grocer began leaving us stuff in boxes and crates that was not just salvage but honest real non garbage eats. I am still poor but much better off now. I buy people in need a meal when I encounter them in my times I can get out and about.
I cannot save them but I can listen and try to allieviate their suffering even for a moment. I have been suicidal. I can now understand that deep abysmal feeling too. I know what it is like to have much and lose it. Including one's health.
But the treasures I have discovered since are the most valuable of all things. More value than what I perceived as valuable and ultra important before becoming disabled.
So what I am saying is that suffering is not always about having made others to suffer. It may be one has neglected their spiritual life and not helped allieviate suffering in others enough. It also may be a conscious pact made with God to facilitate learning and spiritual growth and a wider understanding of the diversities of the human condition.
I do not feel cursed or punished, but blessed. Sure I want my fit body back again. Who knows? Perhaps in time I will.
But I know my priorities now. I treasure life and the little things, the simple pleasures as never before. Just waking up and being able to walk and see is an exquisite joy. I take nothing for granted any longer.

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What may appear to be a curse is often a blessing in disguise.
I have to remind myself of that often.
Do we not learn by way of adversity and the trials of living as well as the great (and small) happiness?
As it is said every cloud has a silver lining.
I suppose I am more a pessimistic optimist than a optimist but I try to be upbeat as much as possible.
There are times still where it takes every erg of will power to not give up.
(have had a few mini strokes since and a suicidal fugue last Fall)
I feel as if I cannot go on another moment.
Then blessedly some little thing, a gift comes into my life to remind me how precious life still is for me. One morning I awoke but hurt so badly I could barely stand it. My husband (now my ex, this happened some years ago) had to go to work. I felt so alone there in my bed. I pulled back the curtains and there on a branch outside my window were a pair of mourning doves. They were huddled together in the rain. The male dove flew away and the female dove moved to his spot and buried her head in her wing.
Soon the male came back. He sat with her again. The rain stopped. The sun came out. Their wings dried and I saw then how she could not fly in the rain because her wing was damaged a bit. They flew off together slowly, him not going fast as usual, but slowly along with her. I struggled up then and got my hot packs and took my anti spasm meds and the phone rang. My husband was calling from work to see how I was feeling and to tell me he loves me. He asked if I needed him to come home early and take care of me. I said no, you will be home in a few hours. I feel better now!

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Unconditional love does exist. I try to practice it. It is not always easy. It grieves me when anyone has a hate out on me simply because I disagreed with them, as happens at forums.
I do my best to not have enemies and am often maybe too forgiving.
I was for example chased by a crack head woman and fell and broke ribs.(2001) I still suffer from that years later. Even though she was chasing me with a loaded gun and caused me to suffer added permanent injury to my already disabled condition.
I sat and talked with her and listened to her woes a few days later. I was on our porch when my husband (ex now)came home to find me sitting with her drinking tea and talking. Another crack head showed up who had robbed me before. My husband was very worried for me, but I said to him later.."they came to talk so I listened."
I was never robbed or attacked by them again. The first woman chased me because she saw a werewolf in her shower and was convinced I sent it to her.

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posted March 14, 2011 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
Lemme know when you get IM

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posted March 14, 2011 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
Lovely and bittersweet read

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posted March 14, 2011 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
Lemme know when you get IM

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Originally posted by LEXX:
I will.
Not sure if I will though.
My apologies if I do not.
It is nothing personal, just so little free time to spare.
{{{hugs}}}

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posted March 14, 2011 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
Lovely and bittersweet read

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Originally posted by LEXX:
Thank you.

LOl...I really must go now!
Later!

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posted March 14, 2011 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
Go do what you have to do, hopefully you can get some more rest. Hope you feel better You will be in my good thoughts

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posted March 14, 2011 10:10 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I like the replies here, and feel this was an overall positive thread.

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posted March 15, 2011 05:15 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm also starting some sort of morning gratitude, but it's being grateful for things that aren't good in your life. A friend mentioned it to me, so I'm trying it... I also need to get back to "morning pages" to clear my head every day.

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posted March 15, 2011 06:57 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm also starting some sort of morning gratitude, but it's being grateful for things that aren't good in your life. A friend mentioned it to me, so I'm trying it... I also need to get back to "morning pages" to clear my head every day.

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posted March 15, 2011 07:01 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
At the moment, I'm using Rhodiola (liquid herb - I take it, and then sit in the shower if I need to, until the water starts to run cold), flower essences (when I remember), "Alive" smoothie supplement, flax oil in that smoothie... I need to get back to exercising as well, and this being up all night doesn't help.

A good part of my depression is over things I can't change (and I know it's a waste of time, but it still hits me), and I need to get to a point of acceptance. It's also due to my anxiety having been ramped up over past months, things that happened here and elsewhere, loss (several deaths since last Spring, severing of ties with more than one person, etc). I have good days, when I feel calm, happy and am looking forward to the future ~ I just need more of those.

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Linda talks about liquid herbs in Star Signs too, I have to find out where to get them. I'm an 8 person so according to the book I will experience depression more often than other numbers.