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PixieJane
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posted May 07, 2013 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought this might be of interest here:
http://living.msn.com/life-inspired/the-men-department-blog-post/?post=4e021ec7-96a2-41fe-89d2-87c322eb9540

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In the study, Michael Dufner of Humboldt University in Berlin and colleagues set out to test whether narcissistic individuals — those who have traits such as an “unrealistically positive self-view, a strong self-focus, feelings of entitlement, and a lack of regard for others” — were appealing as short-term romantic or sexual partners. Researchers also wanted to see whether physical attractiveness and high social boldness — traits linked to narcissism — contributed to mate appeal. For the study, Dufner and his colleagues relied on ratings of members of the opposite sex, ratings of friends and records of courtship outcomes.

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While narcissists might get more phone numbers, previous research has shown that they tend to be less successful at long-term relationships, said Susan Krauss Whitbourne, a psychology professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst who wrote about Dufner’s study in her blog on Psychology Today.

“Because their long-term prospects in relationships tend not to be very good, narcissists become the masters of the good first impression,” she writes. “They know how to manipulate their own self-presentation so that they seem desirable and attractive.”

In other words, “these are the people who are OK on one date, if that,” Whitbourne said.


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aquaguy91
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posted May 07, 2013 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^I'm going to have to disagree with that article, I see lots of narcisistic guys who are very successful with women. However I do think most women eventually wise up and leave these types of guys, even if it takes years. I think alot of younger women mistake the narcissim for confidence.

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Odette
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posted May 07, 2013 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't these people go and research cancer?

This is so ridiculous.

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Odette
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posted May 07, 2013 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

Do narcissists get laid?

umm..

a) Do we CARE? Seriously?

b) Is there anything we can do about this? If not.. see a).. WHY do we care?

c) Do we really need to bring a media spotlight on this issue and make it seem like a positive damn thing - which will only attract MORE idiots - reading the article and trying to mimic the behaviour (even when they are not narcissists)?

d) What came first --- the chicken or the egg?
Is all the negative media attention to dating - creating SH*T behaviour in both men and women... OR... is the behaviour there and the media is simply bringing it to our attention?

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Odette
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posted May 07, 2013 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously - all these articles serve to do - is create more drama.
I'm sure some retarded teenage or 20-something moron out there reading this..... will react exactly as aqua guy reacted some time ago --- and start acting like a jerk, just in case it gets him laid.

And then some idiotic low-self esteem brainless girl, who was born like yesterday... will think "awwwww poor little retard". Perhaps I can fix this poor little retard, if I put up with all his SH*T and love him anyway....

Which will only send the retard ^^ the wrong message... because he will think, as aqua guy thought, and still thinks:

"Well women must like this behaviour. that's why she is still with me."

*HUGE DAMN FACE PALM*

Gotta love the cyclical BS here.

I swear I am not even interacting with anyone under 30 anymore, male or female.
If I meet a person under 30 - I will just be like "Sorry. NOT talking to you. YOU are wasting my damn time."

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PixieJane
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posted May 07, 2013 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
I swear I am not even interacting with anyone under 30 anymore, male or female.
If I meet a person under 30 - I will just be like "Sorry. NOT talking to you. YOU are wasting my damn time."

Good plan. I've always thought AG didn't go far enough in holding nearly all women under 30 in contempt and swearing not to talk to them anymore, but you, you go all the way and get everyone in one fell swoop!

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Odette
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posted May 07, 2013 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Good plan

Thank you

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Odette
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posted May 07, 2013 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't actually do this, obviously..

I'm just being a bi*tch.

I'm so tired of this kind of stuff. Basically I'll just ignore it.
I will not avoid actual people.. but if they start talking about this kind of thing, I'll avoid the conversations.

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aquaguy91
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posted May 08, 2013 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since when was have I purposefully been a douche to women and gotten laid as a result? this is certainly news to me.
Actually Odette is taking a conversation we had on here months ago completely out of context. (Pisces mercury strikes again). What I actually said was I tried acting like a jerk to a few women in the past to see how they would react. It was purely for research purposes (you wouldnt understand if you arent aquarian). This wasnt a sustained thing, It was something I did twice. My only purpose of doing my little experiments was to prove to myself that lots of girls in my generation liked jerks because everyone seemed to be in denial about the issue so I wanted to investigate matters for myself. I didnt take things far, I didnt make a habit of being mean, and I certainly didnt get laid nor was that ever my intention . My only intention was to see how girls would react if I started acting more like a jerk, Again these were short lived experiments and I didnt make a habit of being mean/rude to women, nor do I do that now.

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Odette
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posted May 08, 2013 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And do you think you would've conducted said experiments - in the absence of all these dumb articles (and other media forms - tv-shows, movies bla bla) floating around brainwashing everyone?


I didn't say you got laid btw...
I did remember you didn't do that.

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aquaguy91
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posted May 08, 2013 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I would have still done it. I'm of the opinion that the bad boy issue is a serious problem and isnt taken seriously enough. It especially annoys me when the majority of women here deny what I'm saying while proving what I have been saying is true by being obsessed with Sand. Since he was banned I have seen countless people here (mostly women) question randall and imply he wasnt fair in his treatment of sand. I hate
to break it to ya'll but randall
was very patient with sand , I
saw him warn sand to clean up
his act on several occassions,
but he never did. Sand trolled
me constantly and even stole
my picture and made a meme
of me (real mature for a guy
pushing 30) , He was also rude
to other people. Yet nobody understands why he was banned and thinks he should be allowed back because they like him. He also openly bragged about being a narcist, just saying..

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Odette
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posted May 08, 2013 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol yes.... sand - the bad boy.

I mean if you even call that being a bad boy.... then I am a bad boy myself. I was just rude ten times over, in my last post.

It was silly of him to post those pics. I made a thread about it anyway asking the mods to remove the pics, as I'm sure you know.
I am sorry this happened to you. But they were removed pretty quickly. So alls well that ends well.

I think we are talking about "bad boys" as in Casanova types..
Sand was being a jerk to you personally. He is not a player or a "bad boy" for that reason.

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Odette
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posted May 08, 2013 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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nobody understands why he was banned and thinks he should be allowed back because they like him

People would react this way to ANY regular poster.
If I was banned.. If you were banned etc... there would be a bunch of people out there who would be upset about it.

Sand also made plenty of astro-related posts and for a really long time he wasn't rude towards anyone.
I'm not sure why he started acting that way.

I really don't see how this is relevant to the thread though. The people who wanted him back were not just female, and the ones who were female were not romantically *into* him anyway.
Most people on LL are not seriously romantically "into" other members.. because you can't know someone that well in this context. I'm not saying it never happens, but it's rare.

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Lexxigramer
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posted May 08, 2013 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aquaguy91 {{{hugs}}}

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plutonichooves
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posted May 08, 2013 10:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*You don't get to come here and ramble. Anything you post will be deleted.*

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Randall
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posted May 08, 2013 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The troll bridge is getting full.

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Padre35
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posted May 08, 2013 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yes I would have still done it. I'm of the opinion that the bad boy issue is a serious problem and isnt taken seriously enough. It especially annoys me when the majority of women here deny what I'm saying while proving what I have been saying is true by being obsessed with Sand. Since he was banned I have seen countless people here (mostly women) question randall and imply he wasnt fair in his treatment of sand. I hate
to break it to ya'll but randall
was very patient with sand , I
saw him warn sand to clean up
his act on several occassions,
but he never did. Sand trolled
me constantly and even stole
my picture and made a meme
of me (real mature for a guy
pushing 30) , He was also rude
to other people. Yet nobody understands why he was banned and thinks he should be allowed back because they like him. He also openly bragged about being a narcist, just saying..

Hmm, one seems obsessed with Sand for whatever reason(?)

Jealousy?

Honestly do not know, he has not been on here in months why bring him back up?


For myself, thought he was a charming online presence who took things to far and got hatchet-ed for so doing.

As for your larger point, I hope your experiment around being a jerk did not pan out as it would teach one a lesson about being yourself first and foremost.

See, that is what one is missing about that type of guy..they are always themselves.

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Lexxigramer
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posted May 08, 2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:
Hmm, one seems obsessed with Sand for whatever reason(?)

Jealousy?

Honestly do not know, he has not been on here in months why bring him back up?


Sand has not been gone for months.....
he continues to register and post under several names; being a troll each time.
Latest incarnation seems to be the new troll
plutonichooves.
You obviously do as his fan club does;
and have not been paying attention or you would know that.
And like ag;
I experienced sand's unkind and troll side too.

quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yes I would have still done it. I'm of the opinion that the bad boy issue is a serious problem and isnt taken seriously enough. It especially annoys me when the majority of women here deny what I'm saying while proving what I have been saying is true by being obsessed with Sand. Since he was banned I have seen countless people here (mostly women) question randall and imply he wasnt fair in his treatment of sand. I hate
to break it to ya'll but randall
was very patient with sand , I
saw him warn sand to clean up
his act on several occassions,
but he never did. Sand trolled
me constantly and even stole
my picture and made a meme
of me (real mature for a guy
pushing 30) , He was also rude
to other people. Yet nobody understands why he was banned and thinks he should be allowed back because they like him. He also openly bragged about being a narcist, just saying..


I know exactly what you are saying.
I guess you, me, and Randall and a few others are the only ones who have been paying attention.
So some of us do understand why he was banned and continues to get banned each time he reappears.

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Lexxigramer
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posted May 08, 2013 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
The troll bridge is getting full.
Too bad there is not a way to catch them before they re-register. Why would someone want to keep doing this?
Why are people defending him?
There was a female multiple user name troll the other day;
glad that got nipped.
These trolls ruin it for folks.
Hard to know who is for real or jerking folks around.


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posted May 08, 2013 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:
Hmm, one seems obsessed with Sand for whatever reason(?)

Jealousy?

Honestly do not know, he has not been on here in months why bring him back up?


quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Sand has not been gone for months.....
he continues to register and post under several names; being a troll each time.
Latest incarnation seems to be the new troll
plutonichooves.
You obviously do as his fan club does;
and have not been paying attention or you would know that.
And like ag;
I experienced sand's unkind and troll side too.

quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yes I would have still done it. I'm of the opinion that the bad boy issue is a serious problem and isnt taken seriously enough. It especially annoys me when the majority of women here deny what I'm saying while proving what I have been saying is true by being obsessed with Sand. Since he was banned I have seen countless people here (mostly women) question randall and imply he wasnt fair in his treatment of sand. I hate
to break it to ya'll but randall
was very patient with sand , I
saw him warn sand to clean up
his act on several occassions,
but he never did. Sand trolled
me constantly and even stole
my picture and made a meme
of me (real mature for a guy
pushing 30) , He was also rude
to other people. Yet nobody understands why he was banned and thinks he should be allowed back because they like him. He also openly bragged about being a narcist, just saying..

quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:

I know exactly what you are saying.
I guess you, me, and Randall and a few others are the only ones who have been paying attention.
So some of us do understand why he was banned and continues to get banned each time he reappears.

For a hot minute, sure, and I'm not defending his actions at all, why go where you are not wanted?

AG takes it personally, to me he comes back just to get a rise out of AG.

If it were up to me, he'd not be mentioned again, just ban hammer him. I really would find it difficult to care about it, or him, any less then I currently do.

And FWIW, I did notice the latest one on this page, but only vaguely thought it was he, when I came back to the page Randall had already dropped the hammer on him.

But honestly, just not someone I paid very much attention to in the first place only he mentioned in an off hand way that is was "him".

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Lexxigramer
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posted May 08, 2013 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No he does not come back just to have a go at ag.
Randall gave him far more than the 3 strikes you're out.
And yet he gloated about how many times he got warnings to behave.
He posted all over and at nobody specifically;
just used different names.
Why he does this, multiple user names and razzing folks;
makes little sense.

PS.
I also agree with ag in that sand etc. is one type of bad boy.
Lots of women like him an awful lot.
In their eyes he can do no wrong.

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Odette
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posted May 08, 2013 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just think it's completely meaningless on this thread.

Because the topic is about bad boys in the sense of players/casanovas... not in the sense of internet trolls.

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Odette
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posted May 08, 2013 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although actually LEXX... to be honest - I'm not even sure what we are talking about anymore.

The only new thing I have learnt from all these -bad boy- threads.. is that there is no agreement on what constitutes a "bad boy" and there is no agreement on whether or not they are generally 'liked' or 'disliked'..

It's just MEH..
This whole 'bad boy' thing - is MEH to me.

Which begs the question - why do I keep clicking on this thread? loll

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posted May 08, 2013 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Odette

Well in my opinion an abusive fellow is not a bad boy;
he is a criminal and a creep.
A bad boy in my opinion is a guy who is generally fun but do not count on him for anything.
He is above all out for his jollies.
A bad boy is just charming enough that many otherwise sensible women will tolerate his crap or not judge him harshly;
especially if he gives good "flirt" lol.
A bad boy will use flattery to charm the ladies, and it often works.
If he crosses over into serious crime and physical violence or even psychological abuse;
he is no longer a basically harmless yet unreliable "bad" boy;
he would become a criminal or dangerous psychopath.

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posted May 09, 2013 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:

I guess you, me, and Randall and a few others are the only ones who have been paying attention.
So some of us do understand why he was banned and continues to get banned each time he reappears.

Right, not all of us saw everything he did. He was nice at one point, and if he suddenly turned evil, that's just confusing to begin with...especially for those of us who haven't seen the threads and haven't caught every alias.

IMO, no one should be crabby about people still liking sand. Stuff falls through the cracks in forums; it's not like we're all on the same page (literally!) about what happened. And at one point he was hilarious and really livened up this place, so it's no shame to have fond memories of the good old days.

And if you saw him going nuts, then you know what you know, too, and nobody can challenge that, either.

For the record I never disagreed with him getting banned.

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