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Topic: Traditional Dating
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MetalAphrodite
Moderator Posts: 1536
From: Zanguin :3
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 04, 2013 08:11 PM
  
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I rather die than allow a woman to pay for anything. I make it clear. I pay for everything or there is no date. Period.I open doors, pull chairs, deliver flowers and I drive because I want to. Don't want that, then forget about it. Honestly, I haven't ever lacked a request backlog, so supply issues didn't materialize. I reserve my comments about men who insist on women paying or going Dutch. I also make it clear that I'm not buying sex. I have no such interest. Besides, there are much easier ways, not to mention economically viable methods, of buying sex than having to engage in the silly dating ritual. Opportunity cost is high and my time is expensive.
Do you have a personality clone I can date? 
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Odette
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posted October 04, 2013 08:31 PM
It should be fair and square... not you paying all the time.
That's *yuck*. I would feel so awkward if the guy even offered to pay all the time. I would find it odd.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 04, 2013 09:57 PM
I have to also clarify that I had one unique instance of having a rich girlfriend. I'm talking about extreme wealth. Her family fund paid for everything and planned everything. We spent liberally. I shed no tears. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 04, 2013 10:36 PM
Someone actually sent me a lottttt of flowers once, and we were like casually dating for a week..I had a mini panic attack because it looked so so expensive...
This could of contributed to my rent lol.
and my cat started eating the flowers.
It was such a waste of money..
I think I was more focused on keep all the flowers alive.
Sorry I can't hang out I'm watering this garden you sent me... I feel bad for women, being constantly put in that situation where guys buy them all this crap. I just feel like excessive amounts of money should be spent on your partners not potential partners...
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MetalAphrodite
Moderator Posts: 1536
From: Zanguin :3
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 04, 2013 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Someone actually sent me a lottttt of flowers once, and we were like casually dating for a week..I had a mini panic attack because it looked so so expensive...
This could of contributed to my rent lol.
and my cat started eating the flowers.
It was such a waste of money..
I think I was more focused on keep all the flowers alive.
Sorry I can't hang out I'm watering this garden you sent me... I feel bad for women, being constantly put in that situation where guys buy them all this crap. I just feel like excessive amounts of money should be spent on your partners not potential partners...
Idk if it's just me, but seeing bouquets of flowers give me anxiety. I look at the bottoms of the flowers and feel bad. I prefer potted plants instead :-/.
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7497
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
[BI feel bad for women, being constantly put in that situation where guys buy them all this crap.
.[/B]
I'm gonna **** a lot of ppl off but this is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here in quiet some time. Yeah... it must be real hard to get free meals, gifts,and get constant validation that you are attractive and desirable. My mom has had guys: take her to fine restuarants, mexico, an atlanta braves game, and have taken her on multiple beach trips. doesn't all that just sound awful? Her poor soul.... Women have it soo hard it just breaks my heart. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted October 05, 2013 02:54 AM
Kero - quote:
I had a mini panic attack because it looked so so expensive...
This could of contributed to my rent lol
Sometimes I think this way as well.
I mean there are more practical things to do with the money lol
I can be lovey dovey - but I am not all that into the typical romantic fluff like roses and chocolates. Aqua - You still didn't buy me that vacuum cleaner you keep saying you'll buy.
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7497
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 03:34 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Kero - Sometimes I think this way as well.
I mean there are more practical things to do with the money lol
I can be lovey dovey - but I am not all that into the typical romantic fluff like roses and chocolates. Aqua - You still didn't buy me that vacuum cleaner you keep saying you'll buy.
#disappointed #tsktsk
well what have you done for me lately? lolIP: Logged |
geea
Knowflake Posts: 589
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Registered: Jun 2011
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posted October 05, 2013 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I'm gonna **** a lot of ppl off but this is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here in quiet some time. Yeah... it must be real hard to get free meals, gifts,and get constant validation that you are attractive and desirable. My mom has had guys: take her to fine restuarants, mexico, an atlanta braves game, and have taken her on multiple beach trips. doesn't all that just sound awful? Her poor soul.... Women have it soo hard it just breaks my heart.
you dont know what you say
ime having men offering me to take to paris, to buy me flowers and stuff does not validate my self-esteem, because i stopped long ago giving my look(which are not that great) credits, some women have nothing more to offer than flesh, not my problem but not all of us.
my looks do not define me and if he puts too much weight on that he can **** off
yes, you will be tested by women, and you will be tested a lot, get used to it, makes part of the mating game we all play
just my 2 crazy cents
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7497
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by geea:
you dont know what you say
ime having men offering me to take to paris, to buy me flowers and stuff does not validate my self-esteem, because i stopped long ago giving my look(which are not that great) credits, some women have nothing more to offer than flesh, not my problem but not all of us.
my looks do not define me and if he puts too much weight on that he can **** off
yes, you will be tested by women, and you will be tested a lot, get used to it, makes part of the mating game we all play
just my 2 crazy cents
No matter how ya try to spin it or portray it getting
those things is still nice lol. I only wish I had those
problems.No I will not be getting tested lol. I refuse to play those games.IP: Logged |
geea
Knowflake Posts: 589
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Registered: Jun 2011
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posted October 05, 2013 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
No matter how ya try to spin it or portray it getting
those things is still nice lol. I only wish I had those
problems.No I will not be getting tested lol. I refuse to play those games.
”i spin it right round, right round” 
& nope, its not always nice
being treated like a princess does not make me a princess
being treated like a princess does not guarantee me respect *your expectations are too high, just enjoy yourself on dates, without thinking further
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YoursTrulyAlways
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Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 05, 2013 07:40 AM
If a man doesn't want to pay or doesn't have the ability to pay, then the man has no business engaging in courtship. Friendship, perhaps. That's my view and I don't care what anyone else thinks about it. IP: Logged |
blueskiez06
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Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
If a man doesn't want to pay or doesn't have the ability to pay, then the man has no business engaging in courtship. Friendship, perhaps.
 ...but when does the free ride end then, i know i would not be comfortable with this arrangment and i'm a girl ... i'd go dutch pretty soon IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 48394
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2013 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
If a man doesn't want to pay or doesn't have the ability to pay, then the man has no business engaging in courtship. Friendship, perhaps. That's my view and I don't care what anyone else thinks about it.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 05, 2013 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by blueskiez06:
...but when does the free ride end then, i know i would not be comfortable with this arrangment and i'm a girl ... i'd go dutch pretty soon
It never ends. Next step is marriage, and the step after that is family, and dating is puny sh1t compared to what it takes to run a family. If a man can't support dating, then he doesn't have enough pants to get married and definitely doesn't have the britches to be a father. Any bozo can conceive a child. It takes more testicles to be a good father. It's not about a free ride. Work hard and make a living in whatever you like, as long as it supports the family and the family's obligations. Simple. So, do I look down on guys who don't earn enough? No. Just do something about it and be a man. I do look down on guys who rather b1tch and moan and not do anything but complain how unfair it is that women don't pay. And any woman that doesn't subscribe to my arrangements were shown the door. Not comfortable? Then not compatible. Simple. IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
Knowflake Posts: 1240
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Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 05, 2013 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I'm gonna **** a lot of ppl off but this is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here in quiet some time. Yeah... it must be real hard to get free meals, gifts,and get constant validation that you are attractive and desirable. My mom has had guys: take her to fine restuarants, mexico, an atlanta braves game, and have taken her on multiple beach trips. doesn't all that just sound awful? Her poor soul.... Women have it soo hard it just breaks my heart.
Not all women are put on pedestals an worshipped with gobs of cash, you seem have this misconception that just because one is female everything is peaches an cream...not so, dont know about other women here but I have had my fair share of crappy treatment. Was even stiffed on a date who pretended to forget his wallet so I ended up paying for our steak meal. Would have been fine with going dutch, but what he did was low. Thing is he asked ME out, after that I decided to do the choosing. Some women have it hard with dating, as do some men, it happens to both genders. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7497
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
If a man doesn't want to pay or doesn't have the ability to pay, then the man has no business engaging in courtship. Friendship, perhaps. That's my view and I don't care what anyone else thinks about it.
Its not a matter of not wanting to pay or not having the ability to pay, Its a matter of principal. I don't have
a problem with treating a woman to dinner and a movie or whatever but that stuff gets really expensive. Its really unnecessary too because women have just as much earning power as men these days. 50 years ago it was necessary for the man to always pay because men worked and most women did not.It was also more doable because sh*t wasn't nearly as expensive in those days. Nowadays women are financially independent and everything has gone up but the wages so its really unfair to keep all the burden to pay on men.I'm not suggesting that women pay for melln nor am I saying men should never foot the bill I'm just saying it would be nice to see more women go dutch sometimes.IP: Logged |
Padre35
Knowflake Posts: 2498
From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I'm gonna **** a lot of ppl off but this is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here in quiet some time. Yeah... it must be real hard to get free meals, gifts,and get constant validation that you are attractive and desirable. My mom has had guys: take her to fine restuarants, mexico, an atlanta braves game, and have taken her on multiple beach trips. doesn't all that just sound awful? Her poor soul.... Women have it soo hard it just breaks my heart.
TAANSTAFL AG I have a great deal of empathy for women in that situation b/c basically it's "soft" blackmail. If there are no free lunches, what does it mean when a member of the opposite sex is showering one with gifts? They are not rewards for great conversations about the inner workings of the Communist Party of Burma, USUALLY they are attempts to buy affection. She never asked for a huge box of Godiva Chocolate and Flowers, yet there they are, if she does not like him that way she is transported into being a "***** ". Only times I do that is to either arm her, b/c I feel she needs it, or if I happen to run across a book by an author we'd discussed or what have you. Point of an honest gift is no strings attached think they could use it, not to inject an implied obligation. Unless one thinks "The Bell Curve" is just dead sexy... IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: Asheville, NC, US
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posted October 05, 2013 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
If a man doesn't want to pay or doesn't have the ability to pay, then the man has no business engaging in courtship. Friendship, perhaps. That's my view and I don't care what anyone else thinks about it.
Complete ******** . That is all. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 05, 2013 03:38 PM
AG
You just have to find the right fit for you and it will work out. I believe in miracles after I saw my son.
He and I eat raw, are into all kinds of natural things that most people think are weird and into Astrology.
She is a Christian,loves Israel and into the same things we are.
God can bring you the right girl but it would have to be a miracle, like my son, not that there is anything wrong with YOU but you need the right heart in a girl and she is out there for you.------------------
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Padre35
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posted October 05, 2013 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
AG
You just have to find the right fit for you and it will work out. I believe in miracles after I saw my son.
He and I eat raw, are into all kinds of natural things that most people think are weird and into Astrology.
She is a Christian,loves Israel and into the same things we are.
God can bring you the right girl but it would have to be a miracle, like my son, not that there is anything wrong with YOU but you need the right heart in a girl and she is out there for you.
I truly do not think meeting the right companion is a miracle Lady Ami, I think it starts by being willing to stick your chin/heart out and taking a chance. HOWEVER, before you do that one HAS to have your own life in order and know what you like and know what you do not like in a companion. Otherwise, and this will sound harsh, one is likely to fall for the first woman one is attracted to who shows she is attracted to you as well. Then one can fall into a paternity trap, so keep those eyes wide open. BTW, I DESPISE cheap chivalry, true chivalry is the stronger having mild compassion for the weaker. For example, if you hold a door open for your Boss, that is not Chivalry it is subservience, if one holds open the door for the handicapped, that is Chivalry. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 05, 2013 04:37 PM
Having a life in order is to have the ability to feed your azz and that of your companion. Without the ability and/or willingness taking care of yourself, forget about attempting to take care of your companion. Going Dutch says "sorry, you take care of yourself because I won't take care of your sorry azz." What sort of man is that?IP: Logged |
MetalAphrodite
Moderator Posts: 1536
From: Zanguin :3
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 05:02 PM
Well, my ex had the ability to afford to pay for me and keep me at home as a housewife. However, that did not mean that he regarded me as a woman, but as some mothering bother whom he often referred to as a **** to his friends while I was standing right there lol.I think true chivalry may have something to do with protecting my honor in some sort of way. Doesn't have to be in a flashy kind of way, not asking for someone to jump in front of a speeding train or some equally ridiculous shiz, but have some care. If that guy doesn't earn as much, that's fine. I do not see going dutch as an indicator of a terrible date, but it would be rather ****** if the other one continuously makes it a requirement to go dutch. Go Scrooge somewhere else if that's how you feel. Going somewhere with someone on a date should be fun for both people involved, so if both are in agreement over how to divvy the financial part, what's the problem? It's strength of character and conviction that I'm after. I'm not a tool to be bought. I believe I'm a strong woman in search of a strong man. Money is involved of course, but it is not everything. IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: Asheville, NC, US
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posted October 05, 2013 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Having a life in order is to have the ability to feed your azz and that of your companion. Without the ability and/or willingness taking care of yourself, forget about attempting to take care of your companion. Going Dutch says "sorry, you take care of yourself because I won't take care of your sorry azz." What sort of man is that?
Oh I see, if this was a log, only one end of it need be carried. And do keep in mind mi boyo, by your own standard your awesome wife never should have married you. One was broke and w/o prospects afterall. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 05, 2013 05:09 PM
And neither should money be construed as buying oneself some sex. If that's the goal, there are far more straightforward methods with lower economic and emotional costs, at the expense of social costs. What does that say about the guy and the various women involved?IP: Logged |
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