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Topic: Traditional Dating
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2013 06:53 PM
  
I took it out because I do not want to be personal with you, Faith.
I didn't like how you treated Ian and lets leave it at that.------------------
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Faith
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posted October 05, 2013 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Fine balance b/t wanting your children to look presentable and potentially making them easy targets!
So true! And sorry to brag, but she is pretty, so I'm not sure the baggy clothes are going to fend the guys off anyway once she hits high school. With any luck she'll get acne.  No I'm kidding. I actually don't even worry about it, we just shelter her in some ways and build trust so she takes our advice seriously. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted October 05, 2013 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I took it out because I do not want to be personal with you, Faith.
I didn't like how you treated Ian and lets leave it at that.
Ian didn't read what I said carefully either. I was just clarifying the arguably sexist implications of the well-intentioned, chivalrous comment he made: quote:
Going Dutch says "sorry, you take care of yourself because I won't take care of your sorry azz." What sort of man is that?
For the sake of clarity: it MIGHT be a man who respects his date's wish to retain her independence and NOT be "taken care of." IP: Logged |
MetalAphrodite
Moderator Posts: 1536
From: Zanguin :3
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 08:22 PM
Clarify what is fake feminism?It would be nice to meet a guy who pays for things with no strings attached. For the most part, as mentioned earlier, "there is no such thing as a free lunch" applies. My ex took it as a means to abuse and degrade me as often as he saw fit until I went on the offensive. Then he did it behind my back for all the sympathy circle jerks from his buddies about his crazy ***** wife who was always on his back. I love men. Love talking to them, etc. I am not a feminist, but I am also not submissive without good cause, nor do I liken respect to submission. I would probably do anything in the world for my guy. I just often meet men who take me to that extreme and give little to nothing in return. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
Knowflake Posts: 3211
From: vodka fine, I'm so divine
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 08:25 PM
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I am not a feminist
If you are not a feminist then you either don't know what feminism actually is or you're outright sexist. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 5934
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I'm gonna **** a lot of ppl off but this is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here in quiet some time. Yeah... it must be real hard to get free meals, gifts,and get constant validation that you are attractive and desirable. My mom has had guys: take her to fine restuarants, mexico, an atlanta braves game, and have taken her on multiple beach trips. doesn't all that just sound awful? Her poor soul.... Women have it soo hard it just breaks my heart.
SMH...
anyways your taurus moon would appreciate opulent gifts.
Lol you are so naive...
Nothing is for free, I was not going to sleep with him lmfao...
When you sleep with wealthy men the gifts get more extravagant.  You can't buy MY affections with flowers and trips to mexico LOL....
I'm not for sale.... I'm not a hooker.
I can go to mexico on my own, thank you..
It's literally a road trip with my friends For me, I would appreciate a sentiment that is not material.
That does not require much money.
Something that creative and original. Yes, I do prefer being with people who are financially stable, so I don't have to support them.
This does not mean I expect them to spend their hard earned cash on me..
I have venus square jupiter, I spend enough money on myself lol I think the best gift I ever gotten was a simple gesture.
I remember I found a box on my bed and inside was a tennis ball with a note that said
"The ball is in your court"- Venus in Aries. I think that was the sweetest gesture I've ever gotten and I swear I fell in love after I read that note...
Even if it was cheesy but it was honest, the ball is always in my court muahahhaa Mars in Aries!
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MetalAphrodite
Moderator Posts: 1536
From: Zanguin :3
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
If you are not a feminist then you either don't know what feminism actually is or you're outright sexist.
It's probably the former, though I'd like to believe I am more equal about genders.I don't go out of my way to expound on the injustices of either sex. If a man wants to cry openly and express his emotions, it is his business. If a woman wants to take control over her life, it is her business. Etc and so forth about stereotypes and stereotypical behavior. Rather than encourage stereotypes and proport certain behaviors, I would rather see an individual express what is his or her heart's desire without harming another individual. All in all, I'd rather drop the labels and be who I want to be, whether that is feminist or not. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 5934
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 05, 2013 09:15 PM
Hmm some of these comments.
"If you live in a glass house you shouldn't throw stones"
lmfao.. I feel like this quote is necessary. Using your resources to win over girls?
Sure why not?
I mean you gotta work with what you have.. right? lol Hugh Hefner is a pretty cool guy, he could provide is girlfriends with everything they need.
Yup his girlfriends truly love him..
He is a great provider. IP: Logged |
Faith
Moderator Posts: 5767
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posted October 05, 2013 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I think the best gift I ever gotten was a simple gesture.
I remember I found a box on my bed and inside was a tennis ball with a note that said
"The ball is in your court"- Venus in Aries.
Awww!  IP: Logged |
Faith
Moderator Posts: 5767
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posted October 05, 2013 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by MetalAphrodite:
Rather than encourage stereotypes and proport certain behaviors, I would rather see an individual express what is his or her heart's desire without harming another individual. All in all, I'd rather drop the labels and be who I want to be, whether that is feminist or not.
Always great to see smart people around here! What are your placements, pray tell? I'm a Cap sun, Aqua Mercury, Pisces moon, Leo ASC...nice to meet you. IP: Logged |
Faith
Moderator Posts: 5767
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posted October 05, 2013 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Hugh Hefner is a pretty cool guy, he could provide is girlfriends with everything they need.
Yup his girlfriends truly love him..
He is a great provider.
Yeah...though I will say that Anna Nicole Smith swore that she truly loved her billionaire husband (what was his name again?) It's not like rich men can't be loveable for anything but their money... Frankly I would have been attracted to Bill Gates if I worked with him, and if he only made an average income. I'm a Rabbit, he's a Sheep...it happens. Plus I just like older men, always have...Venus trine Saturn. edit IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
Knowflake Posts: 6075
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Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 05, 2013 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by MetalAphrodite:
@YTA,I think it is honorable that you decided that it was important to be in a position to take care of your partner. I remember you said that at 16 you decided you wanted to be married. .
Make that five years old.
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YoursTrulyAlways
Knowflake Posts: 6075
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Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 05, 2013 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
I'm going to have to rip off Eminenem:"Mr Ak straight out of Compton" One assumes one even has the power to anger me..how YTA..
I'm straight out of Canton. I got a big egg roll and I kill Ak with a wok. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 3015
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 05, 2013 11:14 PM
I always like the thoughtful, sentimental gifts, too, one that shows they really thought about it or spent time on it rather than something they just threw some money at me as an "obligation" rather than actually putting anything like their love or care into it. It's ironic, I have a fake jewelry box to protect my real jewelry box (hidden away) and one day I realized that most of the jewelry in the fake box was actually more valuable (monetary wise rather than memory wise) than my REAL treasure chest! IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
Knowflake Posts: 6075
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Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 05, 2013 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Not talking about your personal preferences but your attitude about dating. If you think all men should insist on paying, then you're saying all women should submit to having things paid for.
Nobody has to submit to anything. If you don't want, then everyone has free choice to say that I'm full of sh1t. I have always had enough loving relationships with those who agree with me. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean that I'm wrong and you're right, or that I must agree with you. Yes, I raise my son to be a perfect gentleman. For prom, he bought his date a dress, shoes, and appointments at the hairdressers, nail salon and massage service afterwards. I taught him what to get at the florist and what sort of wheels are appropriate. I taught him how to behave. If you want something different for your daughter, then good for you. But leave me to lead my life and manage my family the way I see fit. IP: Logged |
MetalAphrodite
Moderator Posts: 1536
From: Zanguin :3
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 06, 2013 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Always great to see smart people around here! What are your placements, pray tell?I'm a Cap sun, Aqua Mercury, Pisces moon, Leo ASC...nice to meet you.
Gem sun/Merc, Taurus moon, Cancer Venus, Cap ASC/Mars. I feel like I'm two side of an opposite magnet trying to force the ends together lol. IP: Logged |
Padre35
Knowflake Posts: 2498
From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 06, 2013 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I'm straight out of Canton. I got a big egg roll and I kill Ak with a wok.
Guilty Conscience YTA, song by Eminimen, speaks to not being true to yourself IP: Logged |
MetalAphrodite
Moderator Posts: 1536
From: Zanguin :3
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 06, 2013 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Make that five years old.
I knew I wanted to have a child when I was caring for kids when I myself was still a kid. I wanted to be married when I was 16. Family is heart to me. I am warmed to see that you teach your son the values that are important to you. IP: Logged |
Xodian
Knowflake Posts: 568
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2013 12:58 AM
Me and my wife have a rule of thumbs when deciding as to who is going to foot the bill for our dates. Essentially, as we see it, the one who initiates the date, pays for it. And you know what? It works out just fine for both of us. Its an agreement that makes us both feel like we are at equal terms with each other. And truly see each other as partners. There have been times where we had to share the tab when the cost of the night out might have ballooned out of proportion Lol! But for the most part, its pretty much been even handed . IP: Logged |
BellaFenice
Newflake Posts: 9
From: Phoenix, AZ, USA
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 06, 2013 01:08 AM
Late response, but nothing turns me off more than "white knighting" behavior. It works both ways though- women shouldn't expect men to take care of everything- I'm personally not a fan of this behavior, but no judgment to women who feel differently. I can't be in a relationship where the effort isn't 50-50 whether it be monetary, emotionally, physically, etc. I'm not looking for someone to take care of me, I've been doing that quite fine the last 24 years. I want someone who is going to mentally, emotionally, and spiritually challenge me, not lavish me with materialistic gifts or do everything for me. My philosophy is that if you pay for dinner, I pay for the next one. I do something nice for you, you reciprocate. I need equality in all parts of the relationship; traditional gender roles hold no value to me. You don't even need to spend money to have a good time-AG there are plenty of girls out there who aren't so high maintenance in that fashion. I took out the "Aqua Venus"-YTA we are all entitled to our opinion and I have no problem with yours. I'm a new poster and I didn't find your response that welcoming or constructive. Diametrically opposed was quite amusing hyperbole though. IP: Logged |
Padre35
Knowflake Posts: 2498
From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 06, 2013 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Aqua Venus here. Late response, but nothing turns me off more than "white knighting" behavior. It works both ways though- women shouldn't expect men to take care of everything- I'm personally not a fan of this behavior, but no judgment to women who feel differently. I can't be in a relationship where the effort isn't 50-50 whether it be monetary, emotionally, physically, etc. I'm not looking for someone to take care of me, I've been doing that quite fine the last 24 years. I want someone who is going to mentally, emotionally, and spiritually challenge me, not lavish me with materialistic gifts or do everything for me. My philosophy is that if you pay for dinner, I pay for the next one. I do something nice for you, you reciprocate. I need equality in all parts of the relationship; traditional gender roles hold no value to me. You don't even need to spend money to have a good time-AG there are plenty of girls out there who aren't so high maintenance in that fashion.
For me, one picks up the check, then the other pays the tip. I think women are excellent at spotting excellent service at a spot IP: Logged |
Padre35
Knowflake Posts: 2498
From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 06, 2013 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I always like the thoughtful, sentimental gifts, too, one that shows they really thought about it or spent time on it rather than something they just threw some money at me as an "obligation" rather than actually putting anything like their love or care into it. It's ironic, I have a fake jewelry box to protect my real jewelry box (hidden away) and one day I realized that most of the jewelry in the fake box was actually more valuable (monetary wise rather than memory wise) than my REAL treasure chest!
Spot on, it is far better to give a thoughtful gift than the de rigeur, norm flowers or chocolate or what have you. For myself, I give weapons as gifts with no strings attached, if we are on an intellectual level then it's books..or perhaps she will give me books. That to me is just poignant in it's honest intent, the other stuff is dross IP: Logged |
MetalAphrodite
Moderator Posts: 1536
From: Zanguin :3
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 06, 2013 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
For myself, I give weapons as gifts with no strings attached, if we are on an intellectual level then it's books..or perhaps she will give me books.
Reminded me of this:  IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
Knowflake Posts: 6075
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Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 06, 2013 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Aqua Venus here. Late response, but nothing turns me off more than "white knighting" behavior.
And in further proof of planet placements being bunk, this Aqua Venus is diametrically opposed to your viewpoint. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
Knowflake Posts: 6075
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posted October 06, 2013 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by MetalAphrodite:
I knew I wanted to have a child when I was caring for kids when I myself was still a kid. I wanted to be married when I was 16. Family is heart to me. I am warmed to see that you teach your son the values that are important to you.
I wanted children since my toddler years. In kindergarten, I had swarms of girls around me because I liked doll houses and I had toy babies. Somebody had to play the daddy while playing "house." I always hated being with boys. Of course there was always smack talk. But it helped that I was always much heavier than the typical boy and one head taller, and I had martial arts classes. My brother is 12 years younger. I took care of him like a father when he was an infant. He slept in my bedroom by choice when i was a teenager. I had my parents merge three rooms into one. Children have been my life long passion. I would have liked to take care of my girls too but that never happened, so I invest myself heavily in my boys. IP: Logged |
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