posted February 06, 2014 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
I think more about getting things for my son, or appreciating the cards my parents send me on Valentine's Day.

I should also add here that my husband's Mars/NN in Aquarius is conjunct my Aqua DSC and Mercury, and we both have prominent Uranus in our charts. Societal norms and expectations are not our specialty.

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posted February 06, 2014 12:30 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

They aren't mine either (and I have prominent Uranus and it makes a lot of aspects with moon, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, ascendant.) I don't give much thought to Valentine's Day besides this thread.

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Same here. I see the stuff in the grocery stores, and think about it rather absent-mindedly. I was just talking to my husband about it, as we were leaning over the counter, sharing some chips and hummus and talking before bed, and I said "This would be a perfect Valentine's Day date, wouldn't it?" and I was telling him about this thread...

So he went into a spiel about how commercialized ALL holidays are (which I happen to agree with but am occasionally guilty of falling prey to, mostly during Christmas season), and we talked about that for a while, and ate our chips and hummus.

posted February 06, 2014 12:49 AM            

It just occurs to me, the favorite part of Thanksgiving and Christmas is the food...and it's high up on why I like Halloween (pumpkin pie, for example), too. I only have one asteroid in Taurus, however...maybe good home cooked food means family, like when me and relatives worked together in the kitchen, and trips to other houses for more of the same as well as inviting friends over. That would appeal to my 3H Libra Venus. Years ago I knew so many who were depressed over not having anyone to share Thanksgiving with that I organized a potluck...some funny stories with that as so many of different backgrounds and interests got together, and some really had no idea what they were doing (like one who said he'd take care of the turkey bought it frozen the day before...we had to postpone until the weekend ), but I enjoyed those a lot (just as I enjoyed some other potlucks I've been to).

As for Halloween, it's so close to my birthday and love dressing up and roleplaying, too, especially with elements of fairy tales (like witches) thrown in. I've been writing my own fairy tales since I was like 6-7. And, of course, the gatherings, I love Halloween parties.

posted February 06, 2014 01:09 AM            

I used to love the Fourth of July when I lived on Capitol Hill in Seattle, and could just walk a few blocks down the hill to the freeway overpass and see all of the fireworks shows without hassle. Or go out to a friend's apartment rooftop or something. I could look out my window to see the New Year's fireworks, so that was nice.

But yeah, too many drunk people now.

posted February 07, 2014 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Well.. I was at the mall today and saw something that i thought she might like, so i broke down and bought her a valentines day gift.

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posted February 07, 2014 01:43 PM            

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posted February 07, 2014 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Well.. I was at the mall today and saw something that i thought she might like, so i broke down and bought her a valentines day gift.

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Did you buy it b/c you wanted to buy it or did you buy it b/c you were expected to buy it?

It's kinda important in a way AG

As for myself..thinking of asking my Taureen Neighborette out on a date for VDay

I'll hang loose and see where she is at during our marathon, and since she is largely Vegan, as I am, it shall be pizza/w. feta/spinach and black olives

Which may surprise some, I REALLY enjoy the taste of, toss in some craft beer and good conversation..sounds like a magical time

Do need some advice on the best chocolate to give as gifts to the office workerettes and the other women in my life

I'm a Reese's guy, not everyone shares that sort of peanut butter/chocolate pallet

Thinking chocolate filled cherries filled gift boxes, just given on the down low

posted February 07, 2014 07:52 PM            

No diamond rings, roses, expensive dinners, lingerie or fancy drinks and everything will be fine, perhaps better than it was before.
No expectations of any kind.
No obligations to spend anything but time with their loved ones.

posted February 07, 2014 09:09 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I didnt do it because it was expected, i did it because i saw something i thought she might like and decided to get it for her. Picking out a card to go with it was the hard part because the majority of them are overly corny. I browsed for maybe 30 minutes and ended up enlisting the help of a female employee. I told her i wanted something sentimental without going into corny territory and within a few minutes we found a good one.

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posted February 07, 2014 09:29 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Um, a lot of guys buy because they are expected to, for some it's both but don't get angry at the guy just because he buys something due to it being expected. It's this holiday and all the pressure.
Most women will not say to their man, "honey, if you don't want to buy anything, I understand and I will respect you for having the integrity to be honest and the guts to go against the reigning mainstream culture and the mass marketed holiday." So, their man [b]must buy them something.
So don't jump all over Aquaguy because he wants to use this holiday to nourish his relationship, if that is, in fact, what he is doing.
For one year all women should tell their men, "honey I love you unconditionally," on Valentine's Day just for one year.

No diamond rings, roses, expensive dinners, lingerie or fancy drinks and everything will be fine, perhaps better than it was before.
No expectations of any kind.
No obligations to spend anything but time with their loved ones.

Maybe just write some prose or introspective philosophy instead.[/B]

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posted February 07, 2014 09:46 PM            

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We're going to take a little trip to somewhere near here. (4-5 hour drive) Still debating on two options that sound good.
Just to get away and enjoy ourselves.

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posted February 08, 2014 07:23 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b]I didnt do it because it was expected, i did it because i saw something i thought she might like and decided to get it for her. Picking out a card to go with it was the hard part because the majority of them are overly corny. I browsed for maybe 30 minutes and ended up enlisting the help of a female employee. I told her i wanted something sentimental without going into corny territory and within a few minutes we found a good one.

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posted February 08, 2014 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Um, a lot of guys buy because they are expected to, for some it's both but don't get angry at the guy just because he buys something due to it being expected. It's this holiday and all the pressure.
Most women will not say to their man, "honey, if you don't want to buy anything, I understand and I will respect you for having the integrity to be honest and the guts to go against the reigning mainstream culture and the mass marketed holiday." So, their man [b]must buy them something.
So don't jump all over Aquaguy because he wants to use this holiday to nourish his relationship, if that is, in fact, what he is doing.
For one year all women should tell their men, "honey I love you unconditionally," on Valentine's Day just for one year.

No diamond rings, roses, expensive dinners, lingerie or fancy drinks and everything will be fine, perhaps better than it was before.
No expectations of any kind.
No obligations to spend anything but time with their loved ones.

Maybe just write some prose or introspective philosophy instead.[/B]

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Ok, lets put another Spin (errrr... Perspective ) on this; What if the man in question WANTS to do this! What if he does wants to bring flowers in, buy chocolates, take her out to a fancy restaurant or just have an amazing time together? Where is the harm in that? I actually take this day as a personal challenge as well since I get to challenge my own creativity in the process . I try to make every Valentine's Day a different experience for me and my wife.

I remember two years ago where I booked an Air Tour for two of the city for us. We got a personalized tour of a city from a private chartered plane. The look of exhilaration on her face was worth way more than the time and the effort placed into making all the preparations.

This year, I get to challenge myself again and see if I can make this year as creative as the others. I have already made the required plans .

So what each couple does on their Valentine's Day is their own business but goodness, to mock people who actually want to go the extra mile to make this day spectacular seems kinda... Prissy IMO.

But yes, you are right; Valentine's Day does seems one sides in the sense that on this day, the emphasis of love and romantic relationships is placed on the female partner (Which is kinda ironic considering that in this day and age, love goes far beyond mundane ideas such as "gender normality.")

Some cultures have two separate days for males and females. In Japan for instance, on Valentine's Day, the "societal requirement" (I still get a laugh out of that one) of gift giving in placed on the woman:

http://japanese.about.com/od/japanesecultur1/a/Valentines-Day-In-Japan.htm

And the gesture is reciprocated by the man on White Day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Day

posted February 08, 2014 09:36 AM            

Interesting! Will this be your first official date

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posted February 08, 2014 02:15 PM            

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A stuffed animal.

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posted February 08, 2014 02:21 PM            

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Ok, lets put another Spin (errrr... Perspective ) on this; What if the man in question WANTS to do this! What if he does wants to bring flowers in, buy chocolates, take her out to a fancy restaurant or just have an amazing time together? Where is the harm in that? I actually take this day as a personal challenge as well since I get to challenge my own creativity in the process . I try to make every Valentine's Day a different experience for me and my wife.

I remember two years ago where I booked an Air Tour for two of the city for us. We got a personalized tour of a city from a private chartered plane. The look of exhilaration on her face was worth way more than the time and the effort placed into making all the preparations.

This year, I get to challenge myself again and see if I can make this year as creative as the others. I have already made the required plans .

So what each couple does on their Valentine's Day is their own business but goodness, to mock people who actually want to go the extra mile to make this day spectacular seems kinda... Prissy IMO.

But yes, you are right; Valentine's Day does seems one sides in the sense that on this day, the emphasis of love and romantic relationships is placed on the female partner (Which is kinda ironic considering that in this day and age, love goes far beyond mundane ideas such as "gender normality.")

Some cultures have two separate days for males and females. In Japan for instance, on Valentine's Day, the "societal requirement" (I still get a laugh out of that one) of gift giving in placed on the woman:

http://japanese.about.com/od/japanesecultur1/a/Valentines-Day-In-Japan.htm

And the gesture is reciprocated by the man on White Day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Day

While I respect this traditional aspect of Japanese Society, I find it kinda exclusionary given the fact that placing gender emphasis on gift giving ends up creating segregation for those whose relationships do not fall under the concept of "Hetero-normality) i.e. the LGBT community.

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Xodian, I would hope every guy wants to do this. That's the point. My wish is every guy would get as much out of the holiday as his S.O. and if he doesn't, I understand him going along with it to not make waves. I don't blame him for that if he values his relationship. That's all I'm saying.

posted February 08, 2014 04:13 PM            

Even if I was in a relationship I highly doubt I'd make a fuss out of Valentine's day. I'd much rather be surprised with a nice gesture. Without an occasion.

posted February 08, 2014 04:17 PM            

It is a great opportunity to think about stuff.

posted February 08, 2014 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]As for myself..thinking of asking my Taureen Neighborette out on a date for VDay

Interesting! Will this be your first official date

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Eh, shot it down, if I list successes also must list failures

Felt like I had to ask, even doughty old Padre is not immune to female charms..it just did not work out..

posted February 08, 2014 05:34 PM              

They were these hilarious rubber strobe light dildos.
I got butt plugs.

We were so excited that we didn't even keep it a surprise.