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Topic: So much hate against Valentine's Day!
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Xodian Knowflake Posts: 911 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 06:06 PM
Goodness gracious, the month of February has barely begun and already people are up in arms about how "commercialized" this holiday is and how it exists to make the singles of the world feel bad about themselves. Its asinine thinking if you ask me. One must look beyond the immediate hype surrounding a particular holiday and look at its roots to gain an idea as to why that particular day happens to be important. V day was set up in honour of St. Valentine of Terni. He was executed for marrying young couples who wanted to be together inspite of the objections from their families. So to me, its kind of a set marker of a day for those of us who had to struggle for the simple joy of being with someone who we truly dearly want to spend the rest of our lives with. If you are alone on this day, simply rejoice and remember the fact that you live in the part of the world where you have the freedom to choose who you want to spend the rest of your life with. Not everyone is as lucky as you. Valentine's Day is my "Go!" Day . I take the challenge on each year to one up the surprise the I did for my wife the year before. This year, I have big big plans . I choose to rejoice in the romantic aspect of this day and to celebrate to love I have for my wife. But at the same time, I choose to rejoice the fact that I have the freedom to choose who I want to spend the rest of my life with . How about you guys? What does Valentine's Day mean to you? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 50193 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 06:25 PM
It's not so much that's it's commercialized. My gripe is that women are charmed by a mandatory romantic gesture. And men are expected to spend a lot of money to do so. How is that showing love?IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted February 03, 2014 06:33 PM
Oh yeah that's why I saw red heart box candies at cvs lol The last time I celebrated Valentines's day was in the 4th grade where we had to get tiny cards and candies for everyone in class. Do adults still celebrate? LOL None of my friends even mentioned it, honestly no one has time for that **** even if you're seeing someone. but I don't have an opinion on this holiday. It reminds of easter and saint Patrick's day.
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Xodian Knowflake Posts: 911 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 06:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: It's not so much that's it's commercialized. My gripe is that women are charmed by a mandatory romantic gesture. And men are expected to spend a lot of money to do so. How is that showing love?
But does spending money on Valentine's Day a requirement for showing romantic gestures? - How about the simple thoughtful things? Surprise her with a full course gourmet breakfast in bed (and if you can't cook, learn to cook first .) - Take her to the spot where you first met her. - Pamper the hell out of her for a day. Take care of all the house chores, let her soak in the bath tub in a relaxing bath, shower her with affection. - Put on your best clothes for the night and have a quiet homely dinner for two! The sky is the limit! There is just so many things you can do that doesn't requires you to spend a lot of money. IP: Logged |
Xodian Knowflake Posts: 911 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 06:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: None of my friends even mentioned it, honestly no one has time for that **** even if you're seeing someone, maybe married couples that try super hard to keep it romantic
You have such boring friends . I get that lack of time is an issue for a lot of people (I can relate) but seriously a simple gesture of affection doesn't takes that much of an effort not will it take up significant amount of your time. IP: Logged |
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posted February 03, 2014 06:45 PM
Im NOT trying to say I'm too cool for Valentines days buuuuuuut 2cool4 Valentines day :PIP: Logged |
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posted February 03, 2014 06:48 PM
Holidays I take seriously.Halloween Christmas sometimes New Years. 4/20 4th of july IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 50193 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 06:57 PM
Money was only a sub-point--not the main point. Why not show those gestures on other days--when least expected? Mandatory gestures are just not romantic. They are expected. I fail to see the proof of love in a required gesture. I do understand where you're coming from, though. You're married. IP: Logged |
Xodian Knowflake Posts: 911 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 07:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Money was only a sub-point--not the main point. Why not show those gestures on other days--when least expected? Mandatory gestures are just not romantic. They are expected. I fail to see the proof of love in a required gesture. I do understand where you're coming from, though. You're married.
But is fulfilling an expectation on a day dedicated towards affection and love is such a bad thing? I mean, don't you give someone a gift or show a token of appreciation for someone during their birthday or the like? I fail to see just why such animosity against this particular day exists on the sole basis that you are "expected" to do something for someone. I get the whole "f**k society!" angle of it all but really, is showing someone an affectionate gesture on a day be something we should be condemning? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9071 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 07:20 PM
I roll my eyes at the ten thousandth heart but yeah I can see why people who love each other should celebrate. Why not? IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 4396 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 03, 2014 08:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Im NOT trying to say I'm too cool for Valentines days buuuuuuut 2cool4 Valentines day :P
I'm married even, and I still agree with you. My Leo husband is more concerned with getting me something than I am. Personally, I don't take it seriously either. I don't even expect (or want) chocolates. I think my husband is just being his Leo self when he makes these little gestures, but I'm like...meh. We both know that we don't need a calendar designated date once a year to do something fun, romantic, or to show that we love each other. Why not just do that type of thing spontaneously? IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 4396 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 03, 2014 08:03 PM
I had kind of forgotten about it, honestly. I vaguely notice the stuff at the store, and think mostly of my son. I might get the little guy a balloon and my husband some of his favorite licorice, just as a token, but...yeah. Eh. We tend to do little things for each other all the time, or go places when we feel like it, etc. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10765 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 08:23 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeoA7J94NQQ I agree with this guy. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10765 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 08:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: It's not so much that's it's commercialized. My gripe is that women are charmed by a mandatory romantic gesture. And men are expected to spend a lot of money to do so. How is that showing love?
Yes IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 4396 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 03, 2014 08:33 PM
^ I don't expect that. I find that ridiculous, personally.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10765 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 08:37 PM
^ most doIP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2014 09:22 PM
I like V day. There should be more days celebrating love, if it were up to me. And yeah, it doesn't require spending money. Best gifts aren't the expensive ones anyway. I wished I could spend it with my fiancee but it didn't work out that way. But I look forward to future V days together. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 50193 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 09:28 PM
Honoring the birth of someone is way different than a forced mechanistic obligatory romantic gesture.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4348 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 03, 2014 09:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: It's not so much that's it's commercialized. My gripe is that women are charmed by a mandatory romantic gesture. And men are expected to spend a lot of money to do so. How is that showing love?
Exactly. I've really been showing love every day if can with nice words and little sweet favors. (we both do) Like just stopping by to get her favorite snack on my way home. Just little things. It's nice because she really shows appreciation for them. We'll do something nice that day (I took the day off) but both of us feel the same. As long as we enjoy it together, whatever it is. Neither is into all that typical v-day stuff. The meaning is kinda lost in our eyes. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 50193 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 09:37 PM
Just for the record, I do celebrate. Like I said, it's mandatory. Women expect that gesture.IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 4396 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 03, 2014 09:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Exactly. I've really been showing love every day if can with nice words and little sweet favors. (we both do) Like just stopping by to get her favorite snack on my way home. Just little things. It's nice because she really shows appreciation for them. We'll do something nice that day (I took the day off) but both of us feel the same. As long as we enjoy it together, whatever it is. Neither is into all that typical v-day stuff. The meaning is kinda lost in our eyes.
Yeah, I mean...he probably got me something small, like a box of inexpensive chocolates or something, and I'll probably get him something similar. But if we want to do something cool and fun or romantic, we just do it when we feel like it. We love each other very much, so that's all that really matters at the end of each day. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10765 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 10:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Just for the record, I do celebrate. Like I said, it's mandatory. Women expect that gesture.
But why? Especially when you consider the fact that women have zero problem giving men the middle finger and saying "we don't owe you anything". Why can't men collectively stand up for themselves and say" you know What, I don't owe you anything either". The sad thing is most guys are manipulated into behaving the way this society wants them to Behave because they fear being put in the dog house. That's why it's hilarious to me when you hear people saying we live in a patriarchy. Honestly I can see why men do this when I see how I get treated when I stick up for my gender. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 8815 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 10:18 PM
I enjoy Valentines day and do celebrate. Life gets hectic, kids, jobs, bills, obligations to the nth degree to hold our every day focus . Altho the shared responsibilities are love and expressed by attending to them, setting aside a day for me and thee is important . It doesn`t have to be monetary gifts at all. A quiet shared dinner, movie or a hike in the woods. Private time for each other is essential. So we call it St valentines day, it is really just a single day we don`t feel guilty to steal some time to celebrate your love. They say shared vibrations are strong and if umpteen million people celebrates, a love vibe would color the globe ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 50193 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 10:26 PM
I've never been put in the doghouse for my beliefs. But if it makes my woman feel more secure and lets her know she's important to me, then I have no problem suspending my beliefs to make her happy. Relationships are about sacrifice. This is really a minor one as far as sacrifices go. And women can give to their man on V Day also. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 50193 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 03, 2014 10:34 PM
I like Violet's view of it. IP: Logged |