posted July 21, 2016 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Just because you approach a woman respectfully doesn't mean that she'll respond favorably to your feelings. She doesn't have to. But that doesn't mean that she's not still worthy of respect.

A better question would be, why has one experience altered your view of all women to point where you feel that none of them are worthy of respect?

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posted July 21, 2016 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Now,
look at this. She completely failed to acknowledge that her logic in the previous post I quoted was flawed. In that post, she had implied that telling women they are beautiful is an acceptable way to approach them. When I told her this approach had got me cussed out by a woman once, she went on the offensive and basically gave me the typical feminist nonsense about how i'm not entitled to a good response from a woman. I had never implied I was. I simply pointed out that a guy can play by all the rules and still be treated like a criminal by women. Is it a guy's fault if a woman is a total b*tch when he has done nothing wrong? I don't think so, but that's what some of you seem to be saying.

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The original point I was trying to make is that you can't base your future actions off of past experiences. Well, I mean, you can, but that's not going to get you very far. Just because a handful of women have reacted to you negatively in the past does not mean that every woman you interact with, will. How do you think deeming all women as man-hating feminists will serve you? I would think that they would be even LESS likely to talk to you, then.

Hence my point of saying that just because one woman disrespects you, doesn't mean that ALL women are suddenly no longer worthy of your respect.

My original question still stands:

posted July 21, 2016 06:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:

By the way: I find walking up to a woman (or man) one doesn't know and commenting on their looks, no matter whether negatively or positively, rather impolite. I don't appreciate getting that sort of personal feedback from complete strangers at all, neither from men nor from women. That's something you can do to me when we know each other - if it's sincere, and if it's not said with any sort of expectation or hidden agenda. But only then. And even then I will still need to force myself to accept it gracefully rather than show annoyance, and will still feel uncomfortable. Not everybody is keen on getting more compliments, you know. To assume it's a friendly thing to all people would be a mistake.

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posted July 21, 2016 06:52 PM            

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I know I used to be a negative and cynical b*stard and brought my negativity here more times than I could count, but I have finally had a mental shift. I'm going to school and doing really well and I have been doing new things and taking risks. I have been taking a dance class and my confidence with women is growing. I have also been in a karate class and that's been a lot of fun. I don't know exactly what happened inside me, but I have changed from the inside out. I used to look for the negative in people and situations, but now I look for the good in them. I actually smile now instead of scowling like Donald Trump. It may be hard for some of you to believe, but it's true. The old AG is dead and gone. Life is good.

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You talk to me like i'm Homer Simpson,but no, you dont have a negative opinion of men. At least you admit that it angers you when a man compliments you even in the most polite way possible. That's exactly what i'm talking about, to me that's sick and weird.

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Feminists do spread hatred and fear of men. Anyone who denies that is dishonest or ignorant (That's putting it nicely).

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At any rate, women are indeed paranoid and hateful towards men. If you can't face that, it's not my problem.

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posted July 21, 2016 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I'm just going to drop this right here and run away.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/002506.html

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posted July 21, 2016 07:02 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

Hey Deepfreeze,
back to trolling me again? That's no surprise, but it is still kind of weird that a middle aged man stoops to such behavior.

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posted July 21, 2016 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Vajra,
I said that I think its weird and sick that a lot of women today take compliments from men as an insult. What could possibly be more natural than a man finding a woman attractive? I honestly can't think of anything that is. You just admitted that it annoys you under the most polite of circumstances. So what am I supposed to think?

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posted July 21, 2016 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Vajra,
I said that I think its weird and sick that a lot of women today take compliments from men as an insult. What could possibly be more natural than a man finding a woman attractive? I honestly can't think of anything that is. You just admitted that it annoys you under the most polite of circumstances. So what am I supposed to think?

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posted July 21, 2016 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Details matter and you're missing them.

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posted July 21, 2016 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b]Vajra,
I said that I think its weird and sick that a lot of women today take compliments from men as an insult. What could possibly be more natural than a man finding a woman attractive? I honestly can't think of anything that is. You just admitted that it annoys you under the most polite of circumstances. So what am I supposed to think?

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Details matter and you're missing them. [/B][/QUOTE]

posted July 21, 2016 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Actually I didn't tell you anything like that at all.
I asked you to reflect on the reasons why complimenting someone isn't necessarily a friendly thing to all women, depending on their personality and experience - whereas you seem to assume that it is, and you even seem to be angry if someone doesn't react to ia compliment the way you expect.

Rudeness is not something I appreciate in anyone. Telling polite guys off rudely is therefore not something I've ever done or would ever condone. However, commenting on someone's physical appearance as the very first act of making contact is, to me, also rather rude in itself because it crosses a boundary. Nevertheless I would not be rude in return, but I would not find it an endearing thing either. People in general, as you must have often noticed, have quite different ideas of what they find socially acceptable.

But not all women are the same. I told you that I don't appreciate a stranger approaching me with a compliment on my looks, which is true - and that means the same could very well be true for some other women who, like me, are not keen on being seen as a potential mate. But clearly there are women who rather like to receive compliments, who even work towards receiving them, and those are probably the ones one should best compliment if one wants to do such a thing to a stranger.

Did you ever hear Casanova's advice on the topic of compliments?
"Compliment the beautiful women on their intelligence, and the intelligent ones on their beauty. Those who are both intelligent and beautiful, don't compliment at all - that's something they're not used to."

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posted July 21, 2016 08:13 PM            

In case you're wondering, me bringing up your old thread could have multiple intentions, both negative and positive. One could say that it was posted to insinuate that you're being hypocritical.
One could also say that it was posted to in a sense, have you look in the mirror of your two selves.
Can you in any way relate to the man who posted that thread? Can you reflect on that time? Did you genuinely feel that way or circumstances that have nothing to do with your views on women gave you a temporary euphoria?
At one time, you HAVE thought differently. Why did that change? In either direction. Your views seem unstable and change with unrelated happenings in your life that are going on or that you read. It wasn't enough that you disagree with the new law. Your entire view has snapped back to "the old" AG as you described yourself.

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posted July 21, 2016 10:45 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
In either case, I've been rational with you. We all have.
You've shown irrationality by taking posts that counter your views as insults which has led to making very obvious intentional insults by you.

In case you're wondering, me bringing up your old thread could have multiple intentions, both negative and positive. One could say that it was posted to insinuate that you're being hypocritical.
One could also say that it was posted to in a sense, have you look in the mirror of your two selves.
Can you in any way relate to the man who posted that thread? Can you reflect on that time? Did you genuinely feel that way or circumstances that have nothing to do with your views on women gave you a temporary euphoria?
At one time, you HAVE thought differently. Why did that change? In either direction. Your views seem unstable and change with unrelated happenings in your life that are going on or that you read. It wasn't enough that you disagree with the new law. Your entire view has snapped back to "the old" AG as you described yourself.

Seems to me that when you wrote that thread, it was a nice thought but you hadn't quite fully convinced yourself that you believed it.

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posted July 21, 2016 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DopGang:
[b]I'm just going to drop this right here and run away.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/002506.html

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It's kind of weird when men who claim to be kind and decent, stoop to insulting and hating on women on a regular basis. You make all kinds of assumptions about women as a whole, but if a woman assumes something bad about one or two men, she's an evil beast, and so are all women, everywhere.