posted July 19, 2016 03:56 PM            

Here, dating kind of dipped in the middle though it's coming back. There was a big lad culture that you might know was said to bring about a 'ladette' culture as well. Interaction between men and women was very polarised and wolf-whistling, and intimidating flirting I.e. In a very male orientated entertaining way has not been uncommon, likely as a result.

posted July 19, 2016 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Things just keep getting more and more insane in Western Countries. This is why i'm getting a degree to teach ESL and getting the f*ck out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/13/nottinghamshire-police- becomes-first-force-to-record-misogyny-as/

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You are right, A.

I have a client teaching English in Korea, I think it is.

We did a Live chat and kept getting disconnected lol

One of our LL people did this.

I can't remember his name but he had Uranus conj the ASC and was zany as heck.

I know you knew him.

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posted July 20, 2016 07:13 AM            

Yes. Our perception of femininity has been severely distorted by the current media agenda of sexual objectification.

And it has been venturing into dangerous ground where we are seuxalising children, as per Britney Spears "Hit me Baby" video, gracefully picked up by Miley Cyrus' recent sexualisation of a BABY no less, in her "music" video.

We live in a world obsessed by looks.
That judges attractiveness by first and foremost what is on the outside.

How many women will get offended if a guy says he values her traits of compassion, creativity, integrity, honesty?

Cat-calling and whistling are only flattering to those over-attached to their appearance as they only send a message about the physical appearance.
--- There are some women who are sick of being reduced to this shallow film of existence.

Aquaguy,
saying "hello" is clearly not intrusive.
But it may take a while for women to be able to see what genuine, holistic interest from a man looks like within the current culture.

This move should help makes it easier for us to do that.

Of course, women and NOT without blame here. One only has to go to the pub on a Saturday night to see women objectifying themselves along with the men, just for that little shred of validation.

--- THIS is also a major problem, as it perpetuates the objectification that they then complain about when they are "humped and dumped".

Those interested in genuine connection need to try and find each other in a sea of robotic, shallow interactions.
This is hard.
Hard for those men and women who wish TRUE connection with another.

This law, if handled with wisdom, could make it easier for people to truly connect with others, by limiting freedom to objectify.

I do understand your concern Aquaguy, that this may be abused by some unscrupulous women as a power move against men.

posted July 20, 2016 08:44 AM            

Yeah, precisely! Another problem is that teens grow up in this culture and embrace it, so it lives on. Girls thinking they are commodities, men convinced women only exist to please them

posted July 20, 2016 10:38 AM            

You can't help finding a woman attractive, can you? It's your body that does it. It's about how you treat her, not how you feel about her.

posted July 20, 2016 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Depends on how you let them know. Politely or like you're living in a porno.

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posted July 20, 2016 10:58 AM            

Yes.

posted July 20, 2016 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DopGang:
[b]Depends on how you let them know. Politely or like you're living in a porno.

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I know this was for Dop, but I would like to add something.

I don't like to divide people, but in terms of this subject, I believe there are possibly two types of people:

A. The men who objectify men and women, and the women who objectify men and women.

B. The men who do not objectify men and women and the women who do not objectify men and women.

posted July 20, 2016 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Yes.

There's a huge difference between walking up to a woman and telling her you think she's beautiful and whistling or yelling at someone from across the parking lot. In the first scenario, you're treating her like a human being worthy of your respect. In the second, she's just an object, there for the viewing.

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posted July 20, 2016 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
What if I told you I have been cussed out by a woman for telling her I thought she was beautiful?

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Just because you approach a woman respectfully doesn't mean that she'll respond favorably to your feelings. She doesn't have to. But that doesn't mean that she's not still worthy of respect.

posted July 20, 2016 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
But that doesn't mean that she's not still worthy of respect.

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posted July 20, 2016 11:30 AM            

When we live in an objectifying culture, it is sometimes difficult to tell the difference between genuine compliment and an objectification with an agenda attached.

When we change this culture, it will become clearer, and those whose values are more similar will find each other more easily.

posted July 20, 2016 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:

When we live in an objectifying culture, it is sometimes difficult to tell the difference between genuine compliment and an objectification with an agenda attached.

When we change this culture, it will become clearer, and those whose values are more similar will find each other more easily.

Currently, it is a minefield.

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