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Taurus80
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posted June 26, 2007 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey guys

Ty for the links EightMoon

Jane, I know what you mean about being picky and lazy at the same time lol

DD,
Oh i'd say juicy is a pretty good word to describe it I like Kim's site, I really like how she helps everyone out as best she can.

Diandra,

(((((((((hugs)))))))))
I hope you're okay, just remember that arguments tend to happen, men can't be pefect like us

I used the True Node I got from astro.com.

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Diandra23
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posted June 26, 2007 11:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Taurus, how are ya?

Im fine thanks
I know we are all imperfect,why else would we be here on Earth? hihihih

I just think most of them arent so into spiritual like girls arent they? - i would so like for him to believe a little

Be more aware


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Taurus80
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posted June 26, 2007 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, i know no one's perfect
I think he maybe just needs some time, this is all new stuff, don't lose hope

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Diandra23
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posted June 26, 2007 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was much more earthy than me before meeting me

Now i think he changed a little cause realised our owl relationship from the beginning had mucth to do with inexplicable things hihihi

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posted June 26, 2007 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YAY Diandra! Glad you could find the link and quote!

No problem, Taurus.

DD...I'll bet it's what I said earlier about my mistake in how I handled my situation! Ya never know. Maybe it will inspire you when you see your guy!

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darkdreamer
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posted June 27, 2007 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eighth Moon,

yes, I can already feel a slight change in my attitude.
From: "Oh, heavens, no, never" to "Well, if the timing is right, why not?".


Diandra,

yay for you girl. There´s nothing bad about being earthy, but just mix it with a bit of heavenly stuff.
Seems, you`re on a good way with your boyfriend.


DD

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Diandra23
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posted June 29, 2007 01:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darkdreamer,

everythin is allright now and i found a new thing.

on the thread about that article VenusdeIndia sent,theres more charts which we can analise,its very interesting:

Charts:
4 HELIOCENTRIC - CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS
3 SIDEREAL - COMPLETION OF KARMA
2 TROPICAL - PRESENT INCARNATION
1 DRACONIC - ONGOING SOUL CONTRACT

I Found a Valentine-NN conjunction,a tight one:

My Sidereal Valentine conjunct his tropical NN(1ºorb)
SO,MIGHT mean this : it is my completion of karma to find the pure and true love in this present incarnation,through my bf John( his present NN)

in astro,the helio you find on the extended chart- choose sinastry-below where it says ZODIAC-choose WARNING:heliocentric tropical.
to the sidereal choose the - one that says sidereal i think you´ll also might find good conections with your actor

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darkdreamer
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posted June 29, 2007 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

ah finally, the long missed VAlentine-NN-conjunction.
I`m happy for you, girl.

I`ll have to check those charts, too. Do I compare them to the tropical back?

DD

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Diandra23
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posted June 29, 2007 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I compared them on a general idea.
Didnt yet looked closelly to all of them.

But i think it makes sense comparing each sidereal,draco( which you already did),heliocentric,to the Tropical(natal).

Then,see if there are patterns.

This is huge though,every chart has so many aspects..a huge work ahead hihihi

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darkdreamer
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posted June 29, 2007 05:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huge work, yes! I don`t need to tell you what I did the last hours, do I?

However, this is what I found in the comparision of heliocentric with this actor:

Double whammies:

His H-Venus opposite my Amor (0)
My H-Venus trine his Amor (1)

His H Karma conjunct my AC (0)
My H Karma trine his AC (1,5)

His H Osiris square my Uranus (1)
My H Osiris sextile his Uranus (1)


other important aspects were:

His H Karma conjuncts my Mars
His H Karma conjuncts my Node
His H Karma conjuncts my Neptune
His H Amor trines my Moon
His H Amor exactly conjuncts my Karma
My H Venus conjuncts his Sun
My H Mars conjuncts his Juno
My H Mars conjuncts his Eros
My H Valentine conjuncts his Juno
My H Valentine conjuncts his ERos
My H Osiris conjuncts his Mars
My H Psyche conjuncts his Venus


*gulps a few times* Phew, if I haven`t freaked out til now, now I am pretty close to it.
What do our Higher SElves have in store for us?

DD

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Diandra23
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posted June 30, 2007 08:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i Knew you would have important connections

Look to all those Valentine conjunctions..;Amor -karma conj;karma-NODE
KARMA-aSC - THIS ONE i remember IQ Sayin to jane it has to be with someone was meant to be to the other

AWWWWW i love findin these things im so happy fpr you!!

Look for morw~e things,and im sure you´ll find some other powefull clues

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Twinkle Stars
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posted June 30, 2007 09:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Valentine Conjuncts my boyfriend's Chiron

His Valentine Conjuncts my Neptune
His Valentine Sextile my Jupiter
His Valentine Semi-Sextile my Moon

I wonder what this stuff means.

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darkdreamer
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posted June 30, 2007 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twinkle star,

especially the Valentine-Neptune-conjunction sounds great. An overflow of unlimited, unconditional love. Of course Neptune can point to illusions, but it also can signify that dreamy, all understanding, all forgiving heavenly feeling of love and sympathy.


Diandra,

yes, I pretty much freaked out. Actually I`ve been having a real anxiety attack this morning (still feel the aftermath of it; it`s not completely over yet).
There`s just too much, too much. Phew!

I had a short superficial glance over the sidereal comparision, too (this has to do with completed karma, right?):

I try to limit this to the most important ones:


DW:
my sideral Psyche squares his True Node (0)
my sideral Node sextiles his Psyche (0)

his sideral Pluto sextiles my Vertex (1)
my sideral Pluto conjuncts hsi Vertex (1)

my sideral Nodes sextile his Vertex (0)
my sideral Vertex trine his Node (2)

his sideral Moon squares my Venus (0)
his sideral Venus conjuncts my Moon 82)


others:

my sideral Juno conjuncts his AC (0)
my sideral Karma squares his AC (0)
my sideral Isis conjuncts his MC (0)
My sideral Osiris conjuncts his MC (0)
my sideral Chiron conjuncts his Valentine (0)
my sideral karma conjuncts his Amor (2,5)
his sideral Saturn conjuncts my Eros (1)
his sideral Saturn conjuncts my Vertex (0)
his sideral Node conjuncts my MC (0)
his sideral Karma conjuncts my Valentine (3)
my sideral Moon conjuncts his natal Sun by 0°22)!!!!
my sideral Valentine conjuncts his Moon (3)
my sideral Mars trines his Venus (1)
my sideral IC conjuncts his Venus (1)
my sideral Valentine conjuncts his True Node (3,5)
his sideral Sun conjuncts my Sun (2)
his sideral Moon conjuncts my MC (1)
his sideral Moon conjuncts my Pluto (3,5)
his sideral Eros trine my Psyche (2)
his sideral Psyche opposite my Psyche (2)


On top of that I just realized that we have a Vertex-Juno-dw in the tropic synstry.
his Juno is trine my Vertex (0)
my Juno is opposite his Vertex (1)

*deep sigh* Did you see that Sun-Moon-conjunction? Do you remember that we both have the Sun-Moon-mp conjunct each other`s Sun or True Node?
Quite frankly, I haven`t had such strong aspects with anyone I ever met in real life.

Maybe I should see the comparision with Joaquin Phoenix and find out that it`sn ormal to have all that. Nothing to shout about.
Really trying to stay reasonable here, you know?

DD

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posted June 30, 2007 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
darkdreamer, we do have alot of Neptune aspects also. but only conjunctions, trines, and sextiles thank god. I think the negative aspects could really make the Neptune come out in a negative way.

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Diandra23
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posted June 30, 2007 11:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

Dont freak out girl - it sounds wonderful that sun-moon conjunction you know - awwww just relax and enjoy that freaky similarities - before you even do it i think you already know thats gonna have so many DW´s and patterhs,so your fear comes from that
Stay reasonable yes,but IQ already tokd you it was fascinated by what you found again and again didnt he? - so you have nothin to worry aout on being or not reasonable.

im so curious to see whats gonna happen whe you 2 meet eye to eye

TwinkleStars,

well,both in sinastry and composite me and my love have indeed thise nasty neptune skaures - venus/nep and suun/nep and also venus/uranus.

So, at first i was terrified with all the negative things were identified with those aspects..but as i know myself and him and our relationship; i know that the positive things indeed are applied to that aspects: love at first sight; dreamy feeling of having found the one;tendency to see the other as a perfect human being and puttinh him on a pedestal - i must say that both he and I did this at first,but as we evolve, we just see each other as we are

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posted September 26, 2007 01:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane wrote:
<<A new way to interpret charts--Draconic Composite. I'm not sure if this has any meaning, but I looked up our Draconic Composite and compared it to our regular composite>>

Draconic Composite means the life you would have had together had you both met in your relevant past lifeline.
If this has trines and your current composite has squares, then it tells you that you both SHOULD HAVE accepted each other in the past but you did not.
If the Dr Comp has squares and the current comp has trines/sextiles, it means you both resolved the past issues very well and must now enjoy the relationship in this lifeline.

Hence, Comparing Dr Comp and Regular Comp is like finding out where your relationship is going right or wrong today with respect to the past.

Me and my wife's Draconic Composite has Sun in 22 Aries exactly opposing our Regular Composite Pluto in 21.42 Libra.
It also conjuncts my south node.

Draconic Comp Ascendant conjuncts our Regular Comp Pluto by 2 degrees and Dr Comnp Venus conj Reg Comp JUNO exact.

Draconic Comp Saturn conjuncts Regular Comp Chiron with frightening accuracy.
This means we as a couple hurt or could have hurt each other a lot in our past lifeline AFTER we got into a relationship.
An eye opener to make sure we dont hurt each other in this lifeline.


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posted September 26, 2007 03:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks IQ

Great tip fpr the Draco Composite.
I´ve already looked at that many time ago but i didnt knew ewactly what to make of it or how to interpret.

Now we know

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venusdeindia
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posted September 27, 2007 08:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi guys, back after an outstation break, my IQ, ur insights bout Draco - Natal composite
is precious. must check and be back.

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posted September 28, 2007 08:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ , dont mind but i cant agree on ur thesis, can u elaborate on this.
from everything understood NNode is wher we r goin and S.n is where we have been. draco Comp. by that logic is the evolutionary path of the relationship right ?
oppositions in draco analysis signify what has been done , in the relevant past life, i have found that useful in making a snode draco comp of my parents.
lets just say hits it on the head, also my snode draco with each of them is spine- chilling.
well what do u think ?

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Alia
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posted September 29, 2007 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so is this how u draw a draco chart?
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

put 0 degrees aries in first box
put your NN sign and its degree in 3rd box
and in the middle box you put your natal planet sign and degree (example,my moon is 26 libra) so i put 26 libra in middle box and i get my draco moon?

thank you

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jane
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posted September 30, 2007 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQhunk - That makes sense. The regular squares still exist b/c those issues weren't adequately dealt with in the past life. If they had been dealt with, the regular compisite would now have trines.

Like you & your wife, my fiance & I also have a Sun-Pluto contact. Except with us, it's the Dr Sun that exactly conjuncts our regular composite's Pluto.

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posted September 30, 2007 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if anyone is up for a game of Past Life Detective? I compared our Dr Composite to each of our natal charts & found a lot of exact aspects. These are just some of them...


1). DR Comp's CHIRON
---conjuncts my ASC (to the minute!)
---conjuncts his EROS

2). DR Comp's PHOLUS
---conjuncts my KARMA
---conjuncts his DR KARMA

3). DR Comp's JUNO
---conjuncts my SUN
---conjuncts his MC

4). DR Comp's ASC-EROS-SIVA
---conjuncts my JUNO
---conjuncts his MARS, P. of MARRIAGE, "JANE", BML, ANGEL

Since Pholus is involved, I'm thinking there was a sudden death. Since Chiron conjuncts my asc, I think I'm probably the one who died suddenly. Since Chiron conjuncts his Eros, I think he's probably the one who lost who he loved. Any other interpretations?

Also, his Arabic Part of Reincarnation (which is the same as the Part of Children) is very active with our Composite & my natal. My part of Reincarnation exactly opposes our Composite's Juno, but his does much more: it conjuncts our Comp Sun, my S.Node, my Eros, his Karma...& more. Maybe his is more active b/c if I died, he had to deal with the aftermath of the loss?

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posted September 30, 2007 06:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,

that all looks very fascinating.

It inspired my in fact to do a composite with the man I seem to be unable to forget, who keeps on surfacing in my dreams and thoughts again and again, no matter how much time has passed.

I thought the composite in itself was very revealing.

I list only conjunctions and oppositions with 3° orb.

Moon conjunct Chiron (3)
Venus conjunct Jupiter (1)
Mars conjunct Amor (3)
Neptune conjunct Psyche (2)
Karma conjunct Eros (2)
Valentine conjunct Pholus (0)
Isis conjunct Osiris (2)

Uranus opposite Chiron (1)
Neptune opposite Karma (0)
Neptune opposite Eros (2)
Karma opposite Psyche (1)
Eros opposite Psyche (1)

Very interesting, we have an Isis-Osiris-conjunction as well as an Eros-Psyche-opposition.


The oppositions / conjunctions from DRaco-composite to the regular composite:

D-Moon opposite Pluto
D-Venus opposite Sun
D-Jupiter opposite Sun
D-Juupiter opposite Valentine
D-Jupiter opposite Phojus
D-Saturn conjunct NN
D-Valentine opposite Mercury
D-Amor opposite Siva
D-Ceres conjunct NN
D-Pholus opposite Mercury
D-Siva opposite Union
D-Union conjunct Nessus


Also, I noticed that the composite SN falls exactly on my natal part of Reincarnation!
The draco-composite Saturn is opposite my Part of Reincarnation (and of course conjunct the composite NN); Draco-comp-Ceres is also opposite my Part of Reincarnation (and conjunct the composite NN).

Mmh, it would maybe be interesting to do the whole analysis; maybe it will help me to understand why my soul seems to be unable to really let him go.

DD

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posted October 01, 2007 05:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

"Draconic Composite means the life you would have had together had you both met in your relevant past lifeline.
If this has trines and your current composite has squares, then it tells you that you both SHOULD HAVE accepted each other in the past but you did not.
If the Dr Comp has squares and the current comp has trines/sextiles, it means you both resolved the past issues very well and must now enjoy the relationship in this lifeline."

I don`t understand this. How can the Draconic composite have different aspects than the regular composite? Since I substract a constant number, the distance between the planets will stay the same, the planets fall only in different areas of the zodiac.

DD

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jane
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posted October 01, 2007 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dd - I think he meant the D.Comp when compared to the Regular Composite.

My regular composite has 2 stelliums that square one another. But in my D.Comp, the stelliums trine & sextile my reg comp's stelliums. So in the past we should have settled those conflicts, but didn't, so we still have those squares to work with in this lifetime.

That's some incredible synastry in your second to last post. Is that the sm-actor or someone else?
You have the same aspect my guy does--you both have the composite SN on your natal part of reincarnation. I can definitely understand your deep connection with this man.

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