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Vanny
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posted June 19, 2007 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there someone here who knows more about this aspect? I'm VERY curious!

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MoonDreamer81
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posted June 19, 2007 02:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this Natally or in Synastry?

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Vanny
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posted June 19, 2007 03:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synastry

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posted June 19, 2007 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess, this is a good placement for a relationship (which probably is the understament of the century).
Since the NN signify a person`s lifepath or destiny and Valentine signifies true love, it could mean, that it`s a fated love-match and that it`s the destiny of the Node-person to be loved unconditionally by the Valentine-person. Or it could mean that the node person learns from the VAlentine person to love truely.

How wide is the orb btw?


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Vanny
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posted June 19, 2007 03:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How interesting!

My NN: taurus 27'31
his valentine: taurus 26'30

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MoonDreamer81
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posted June 19, 2007 05:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds just lovely IMHO!! I have something kinda similar w/ my love...his Venus conj my NN(2 deg. orb) in Leo.HeHeHe...his love is in my "life path",and he treats me like "royalty"(Leo~haha)!And he has definately taught me a lot about love and relationships(still is...).Only time will tell where our relationship goes.I don't know a whole lot about the asteroids,but it sounds wonderful!Good luck to yall!

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darkdreamer
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posted June 20, 2007 07:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I basically agree on that those aspects are really lovely, but I`ve experienced that those aspects don`t always work, or at least not the way you want them too.


I`ve known a guy, and I deeply loved him. And it seemed he cared for me, too. But in the end I had to realize that it would never work, and so I decided that we shouldn`t see each other anymore. WE weren`t together, but there was "something", and even after I had made my decision a year ago, it still hurts, when I think of him. I knew that he wasn`t the ONE, but I wanted him to be the ONE so much, and when I realized that he would never become my Twinsoul, it was a very painful experience.

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Diandra23
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posted June 20, 2007 07:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darkdreamer,

those are really good placements you had with that guy!
Look to isis-osiris-sun conjunction; according to Iqunk he says its very powerfull - my bf has his karma/isis/osiris trine my sun in exact aspect,so Iq said his placement is much more powerfull torwards me . I have my Osiris bQ his sun in sinastry.
But then, i did the Draconisc where:
His Drac Sun conj my Isis(2º),my Drac Sun trines his Osiris(1º),and my Drac Sun trines his Drac ISIS(0º),my Drac Isis opposes his Drac Sun(1º).
So then discovered the DW which makes the placements powerfull between the 2

With this guy you feel the connetion now in the present i think it are the DW that turns that kind of connection stronger than the other which didnt worked

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Diandra23
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posted June 20, 2007 08:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About that Valentine-NN ocnjunction IQ said that it is the placemten tht turns a relationship tp be very happy and fullfield,despite of other possible xistence of hard aspects in a sinastry!


It sounds lovely!!

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darkdreamer
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posted June 20, 2007 09:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

WOW! to your Sun- Isis- Osiris-interconnections; isn`t it interesting how the Draconic-natal-comparision sheds light onto some aspects and points to a "hot spot" between two persons?
And Sun, the centre of both of your personalities, it MUST be a very strong connection; well IQ already told you, you are soulmates, and I guess this interconnection played an important role in that.

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Diandra23
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posted June 20, 2007 10:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh,

you drive into you some powerfull persons didnt you?

From those i seen i think the most special are the Sun-isis;sun/saturn;valentine-saturn;valentine-venus.

But Yeah there arent those significant isis/osiris sun DW between you and him,as it exists between you and this other guy form the present

And you surelly know to firerenciate the intensity of your feelings torwards that 2 guys!

For instance : i knew that between me and my bf had to exist some explanation for everything had happened the way it was;the sudden,the unexpected,the intensity,the misteries etc.
So - i came here in the net to look for astrological insights-guess what? Found LL - taht presented me with great persons,willing to share their stories and knowledge.
Iqunk confirmed we are soulmates right after see the Draconics,and I was so OMG that i had to see it all - natals,sinastry,asteroids,draconics,arabic parts -

With you maight happened the same thing: as more you find about your placements,the more you want to find and more you need to know

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Diandra23
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Hi Taurus how are you?

It started on the Karma thread.
I´ve posted some of our sinastry aspects in general.Then,on reading some of other posts,Iq talked about doing the Draconics,which has to be with past life links between people.
I did ours and then compared with the Draconicns of eacth other and with the natals.

The 1st premiss is to have at least up to 3-5 almost exact aspects in the sinastry between:Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/Saturn/Pluto/Asc/NN/Valentine/Karma interaspects .

Then,passed to the Draconics in the thread "Draconic Analysis arkdreamer".

Iq confirmed the soulmate relationhsip when i found these particular:

1) His Draconic Kaali conjuncts my P.O.marriage (0º);conjuncts my Osiris(0º);
2) My Drac Asc conjuncts his Drac Saturn(0º)
3)My Draconic Union conjuncts his Karma (1º);
4) John's Draconic Isis and Osiris trine your Sun.
5) Your Draconic Isis and Osiris aspect his Mars and Sun.

Then,as more that i founded,the more significant placements reinforced taht teory with Isis-osiris-karma-sun-kaali-asc.

Theres a lot to find you know.

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MoonDreamer81
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posted June 20, 2007 11:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good question Taurus80!Yes,Diandra...fill us in!! You know me...always looking for confirmation and significant aspects!!LOL!

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Diandra23
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posted June 20, 2007 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Moon

Me??? You know a lot more than me in astrological patterns hihihih

BUt for example, one of the reinforcements were the placings of our suns both in sinastry and in Draconics.
In sinastry,we have a lot of sun/asteroids DW as well as in the Draconics,all within 3ºorb,which concerning the more important ones ( isis,osiris,kaali,siva,karma,asc)are within 1ºorb.

Sinastry:

- Sun´s sextile (-0a)
- Isis/Osiris him trines my sun(-1/oa)
- My sun trines his Karma(-1a)
- His sun conjunct my Asc(0a) – squares my MC(0a)
- My Valentine inconjncts his venus(0s)
- My Isis/Osiris square his Venus (0a/-2a)
- His Saturn trines my Karma (1s)
- My Isis sextile his Asc(0a) and Cup quincunx his Asc(0a)
- His Saturn squares my Asc (1a)
- My karma trines his MC( 0s)
-His karma sextiles my MC(-1a)
-His isis/osiris/karma trines my sun (0º);
-His isis/osiris sqaures my Asc (1 and 0º);
-His isis/osiris opposes my MC (0 AND 1º)
-hIS isis/osiris conjunct my MC;
-His MC conjuncts my VX;
- KARMA sextiles my MC(-1a)
-My Union conjunct his AC (0º)

My Lilith conjunct his moon(0a);Q mars
-My Ceres conjunct his moon(0s);Q mars;Sextiles MC(´2a):
-MY Pallas sqaures his sun(0a);conjuncts his isis(0º);
-mY Vesta trines his moon(1a)
- My Valent trine his moon(1a);
- My Isis sextils Asc(0a);
--My karma opposes moon(-4a);trines MC;conjuncts his PF(2a);conjunct his juno;conjunct POM;
-My khaali sextiles his sun(0s)-his kaali sqaures my moon(1a);
- His Siva opposes my moon(-3a);squares my venus(-1a);sextils nep and pluto(0a)
-My Siva conjuntc his moon(2a)-DW
-mY Siva trines his mercury (DW)- squares jup and sextils MC(1a).
- His Natal Union 23º aqua trines my natal NN 21º gem (2º)

DRACONICS

we have a lot os aspects but the ones i think more important were:

- His Draconic Sun conjuncts my Isis ( 2º)
His Draconic Moon conjuncts my Kaali (3º)
His Draconic Valentine conjuncts my 6th house ruler ( 5º);conjuncts Drac. Moon(4º)
His Draconic Osiris/isis conujunct my Love(1º);
His Draconic Kaali conjuncts my P.O.marriage (0º);conjuncts my Osiris(0º);
His Drac. Mars conjuncts my Venus(2º) and my Drac Psyche(0)
My Drac. Sun conjuncts his kiron(1º);
My Drac. Moon his DRac Valentine (4º) – DW
My Drac Mercury conjuncts his NN(0º)
My Draconic venus conjunct his Drac Amor(2º) - DW
My Draconic Osiris conjuncts his 8th house ruller(0º); his moon ( 2º); his Union(2º);
My Draconic Kaali conjunxts his PART of Fate(2º);
My Drac Asc conjuncts his Drac Saturn(0º)Drac Pluto(3º);
His Draconic Valentine opposes my Sun (2º); trines my Kaali (1º)
His Draconic Amor trines my ASC (0º)
His Draconic Karma opposes my Union ( 1º); trines my Draconic Sun (1º); ); trines my Moon ( 3º); -DW
His Draconic Isis trines my Drac. Sun(0º);
My Draconic Amor opposes his Drac Sun (2º);
); trines his Kaali(1º);
My Draconic Karma opposes trines his 5th house ruller(1º); trines Drac. Osiris/Isis (4º/3ª);
My Draconic Osiris trines his Saturn (2º);
My Draconic Isis opposes his Sun (1º); trines his Mars (0º);
My Draconic Kaali trines his MC(1º); TRINES HIS Vx(0ª)
My Draconic Asc trines his Drac Union(1º)

Also i think composite shows important connections:

- - my marraige cojunct union(1º);
- his POM conjunct 12h house ruller(aº);
- my wedding widely conjunct Asc(4a)
- Eros conjunct sun(1º);
- venus conjunct sun;
-My Isis conjunct Mean Node of composite(1º)
- My karma conjunct Mean node of composite;
- His POM conjuncts true node (1º);
- My osiris conjunct UnION Of composite (1º);
-His Valentine conjunct Amor of composite (1º)

By the Draconics:

- Composite Union conjuncts John´s Drac. Kaali(1º)
- Compositte Isis conjunct Ana´s Drac.Pluto(1º)
-Composite Osiris trines John´s NN(0º)
-Composite Amor conjuncts John´s Drac. Venus(1º)
- Composite Karma conjunts John´s Drac.Sun(0º)
-Composite Valentine trines John´s Union(1º), conjunts Ana´s Drac.Asc(0º),conjuncts John´s Drac. Saturn(1º)
-Composite Kaali conjuncts John´s Drac.Osiris/Isis(3/2º);trines John´s Drac. Karma(0º),trines Ana´s Drac. Sun(2º)
- composite Juno conjuncts Ana´s Drac. Moon(0º);trines Joh´s Drac. Psyche and Merc(1º),and conjnucts Joh´s Anas asteroid(2º)
-composite Psych TRINES jOHN´S dRAC sUN(3º),
-Composite Eros conjuncts Joh´s Drac Juno(1º),trines Ana´s Drac Vertex(2º),
-Composite Siva trines An´s Drac Union(1º),
-Composite Child conjunts Ana´s Drac Mars(1º)/Valentine and Drac Karma(2º),trines John´s Drac Juno(1º),

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MoonDreamer81
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posted June 20, 2007 11:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never thought about doing a Draconic Composite!I shall do one now.I'll be back later to fill yall in with my findings!

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Diandra23
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posted June 20, 2007 12:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You Go Moon

Yes, i remenbered doing that cause Composite also plays an important role,besides of the sinastries

I compared draconic planets with composite planets;so that might show some strenghs on the relationship itself.

It sure is a pitty that Iq will only be back in 2 weeks;he could really give more insights of the Dracos

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MoonDreamer81
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Composite Draconic for me & Virgo Boy...

~Sun...Pisces(9 Deg.)
~Moon...Gemini(6 Deg.)
~Asc...Aquarius(23 Deg.)
~Merc...Pisces(26 Deg.)
~Venus...Aquarius(22 Deg.)
~Mars...Aries(0 Deg.)
~Vertex...Cancer(10 Deg.)
~Pluto...Gemini(9 Deg.)
~Neptune...Leo(9 deg.)
~Juno...Taurus(25 Deg.)
~Chiron...Cap.(6 deg.)
~Isis...Aries(10 Deg.)
~Osiris...Aries(6 deg.)
~Karma...Cancer(16 Deg.)
~Valentine...Virgo(7 deg.)

~Venus conj Asc. in Draconic Composite
~Valentine trine Chiron also
~Isis & Osiris are 4 Deg. apart in 7th House

Aspects To Natals...
~Sun conj his 9th house cusp(1 Deg.)This must mean he should "travel" to come see me,right?
~Moon conj my Venus(0 Deg.)
~Merc. conj my eros(3 Deg.)
~Mars conj his Phollus(0 Deg.)
~Vertex conj his PoF(3 Deg.) Sounds Important!
~Pluto conj my Venus(3 Deg.)
~Juno conj my Sun(1 Deg.)& trines his Moon(2 Deg.) and trines his DC(2 Deg.)
~Isis conj his MC(0 Deg.)
~Osiris conj my Pholous(1 Deg.)
~Karma conj his PoF (1 Deg.)in H12
~Chiron conj my Karma(2 Deg.)
~Mars conj my Valentine(2 Deg.)

And thats just mainly CONJUNCTIONS!!!I did just notice something that is a little off topic,but Diandra maybe you can explain what this means.I don't know much about Isis and Osiris,but look...

~His Isis is conj his NN(2 deg. orb)and
~His Osiris conj my NN(0 Deg. 12 min.apart!!)
~His Osiris also conj his Venus which conj my NN(2 Deg.)

Those Nodal contacts must mean something.Aren't Isis & Osiris representative of immortal lovers?Or am I way off?


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MoonDreamer81
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Diandra23
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Hmmmmm

in the osiris iris thread you can read a little bit more.
One thing i know for sure: They were Egypitian God and Godesses - and i love egyptian culture you know

Yes, Iq also said tht aspects to isis/osiris/NN could mean important soulmate potencial - so i think you´re a winner on that.

Taurus,
Look specially for isis/osiris clost aspects to the sun/moon/NN/asc - compare also draconic to draconic

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Diandra23
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posted June 20, 2007 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon, i also did the Draconic Composite and found these:

I wished Iqunk was here to say something about hihihihi

COMPOSITE DRACONIC

C Sun exactly conjunst my NN( 0º)
C Moon conjunct John´s Osiris(1º);Utopia(1º);
C Moon conjunct my IC(1º);Pallas(1º);
C Merc conjunct my MC(0º) AND MY Drac Merc( 2º); conj John´s NN(2º);
C Venus conjunct Johns Valentine(2º); conjunt C Amor(3º);
C Mars conjunct exactly JOhNS NN(0º); my MC(2º); MY Drac Merc(0º);
C Saturn conjuncts Johns´s ASC(2º); my Union(3º);
C DNA conjunct John+s marriage (1º);
C Amor exactly conjuncts my Amor(0º);
C Valentine conjuncts conjunt Johns MC(2º);
C Karma conjunt my Utopia (2º);
C Union conjunt his Vesta(2º),conjunct my 5th house ruller(2º);
C Isis conjunt his Utopia(1º);
C Osíris conjunct his Mars(2º); conjunct his Sun/Moon mid.(3º);conjunts my POM(1º);
C Asc conjuncts my 9th house ruller(0º); my Kiron(0º); conjunct John´s Drac Amor(2º)

Trines:

C sun trines Johns 8th house ruller(2º); trines Johns´s Drac DC( 2º); TRINES MY Drac Osiris(1º);
C Moon trines Johns Karma(2º);trines my Sun(1º); my Juno(1º);my Drac Union(2º);
C Venus trines Johns IC(2º); trines my DRac Juno(0º);
C Saturn trines my part Fate(2º);
C DNA trines Johns Valentine(2º);trines JOhN Venus/Mars Mid(0º); tinres JOhNS Wdding(0º);
C Amor trines my Drac Asc(2º);JOhNS Drac Union(1º);
C Valentine trines my Mars(2º);my Karma(1º);my Valentine(2º); trines JOhN´S Sun/Mars mid(0º); JoHNS Part Fate(3º); my Drac Kaali ( 1º);
C Karma trines John´s Asc(3º);
C Isis trines my 8th house ruller(1º); my Juno(2º);
C Osiris trines my Drac Saturn(0º); trines my Drac Isis(2º); trines Johns Karma(0º9;trines my Mars(2º);trines my Valentine(2º)
C Asc trines JOhNS Sun(3º); Trines my Asc(3º);

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Diandra,

yes, I`m quite amazed at the load of aspects I share with those two men.
But I also did a draconic cômparision with a singer I adored, and was almost relieved to find out that there were almost no aspects between the main objects, so it`s not ALWAYS like that.

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Hi Darkdreamer,

well for me seems that you share musch more potencial aspects with the actor rather with the past guy.

I remenber IQ saiying that he shares with his SM wife an isis/osiris conjunction - and you have with that actor the DW. Besides that you also have connections with the noded of the moon,which indicates poerfull feelings both in the past and in the present possibely.

I just wanted to be a fly when you two meet hihihihi ( it surelly will be very interesting meeting dont you think?) - i only can imagine what you might feel about that day.

When i met my bf i was very nervous also but i didnt knew all these things so i didnt vahe all that bagage to make me feel even more cold feet and sweat hands

Don worry it will all be OK! - im suspecting that if you 2 wll be close like in eye to eye contac, he surrely will feel the same symptoms

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Diandra,

yes, it just overwhelms me, how many connections there are with the actor, and I`m sticking to an orb of 2 and only 3,5 for conjunctions. Still, there are those connections.

I looked at our composite, comparing composite-planets with our planets and draconics.

Conjunctions:

C-Sun conjuncts his Mercury, Mars, dr Osiris and my Venus, Isis and Osiris
- it means that this "hot spot" of isis-Osiris is also triggered by c-Sun. Mmh.

c-Moon / Mars conjuncts my Sun and Mercury

c-True Node conjuncts his Juno and Eros

c-SN conjuncts his Amor and dr Karma

c-AC conjuncts his dr Saturn
c-DC conjuncts my Saturn (did I hear the words karma just now?)

c-Karma conjuncts his dr Pluto and my Juno and my dr Valentine

c Valentine conjuncts his Sun , dr Isis and my dr Pluto

c Juno conjuncts his dr Saturn

c-Isis conjuncts his Moon, True node and my Uranus

c-Osiris conjuncts his dr Jupiter, dr Amor

c-Amor conjuncts my Psyche

OPPOSITIONS

c-Moon / Mars opposite his dr Sun
- that means that the c-Moon-Mars-conjunction triggers the opposition between my natal Sun and his dr Sun

c-Venus opposite his Osiris and dr Venus

c-Saturn opposite my dr Pluto

c-Pluto opposite his dr Uranus

c-karma opposite his dr Psyche

c-Juno opposite my Saturn and Eros

c-Osiris opposite his dr juno

c- Amor opposite his Isis and dr Valentine


TRINES

c-Moon/ Mars trines his Isis, dr Juno, dr Valentine, dr Eros and my Sun

c-Venus trines his dr Mercury, dr mars, my Pluto, my dr Moon and my dr Karma


c- Saturn trines his dr Moon and my dr Neptune

c-Pluto trines his dr mars

c-True Node trines my Eros, my dr Valentine and my dr Amor

c-AC trines his dr Neptune and dr MC

c-Karma trines my Saturn

c-Juno trines his Amor, his Psyche, his dr Karma

c-Osiris trines his AC, his dr Sun and my dr Uranus

not sure what all of this means, but there`s such a lot of it, it must mean something.

I really hope, you`re right, that he would feel at least a little bit of those "vibrations".

DD

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