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darkdreamer
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posted October 01, 2007 02:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,

thank you for clearing that up for me.


"My regular composite has 2 stelliums that square one another. But in my D.Comp, the stelliums trine & sextile my reg comp's stelliums."
That is interesting. I had risked a glance at Jude Law`s and my composite. And there is a stellium of Moon, Mercury, Venus and NN (and Sun and Psyche are not really far away) in Sagittarius, which actually falls onto my natal Sun and Mercury.
In the draco composite the Stellium falls into Pisces and squares the stellium from the regular composite (and interestingly the draco composite Stellium falls onto my Stellium of Draco Mars, ASC and Amor). As I said the synastry with this man never ceases to fascinate me (turns out my natal part of reincarnation conjuncts his Chiron and trines his Venus and Isis, while his natal part of reincarnation conjuncts my Part of Marriage and trines my Venus, Isis and Osiris - interesting).


"That's some incredible synastry in your second to last post. Is that the sm-actor or someone else?"
WEll, it`s the first actor / singer I ever had a crush on, but it didn`t really feel like a crush. If I say "actor", this is somewhat of a special case though, since he is popular, yes, but only locally, I think. Which of course means I have seen him quite some times, and even met him once or twice.
And for some reason, he keeps on surfacing in my t houghts and dreams, and that has been going on for the last 17 years now.


Looking at the synastry I must say I share with him more of those 0° aspects than with anyone else:

Sun sextile Moon
Sun square my Saturn
Sun sextile Karma
Saturn trine Pluto
Saturn sextile NN
Pluto square ASC
SN conjunct Moon
NN sextile Karma (to the last minute!)


WE wouldn`t really pass rule 1, since only his Mercury is trine my ASC (but Mercury rules his 7th and 4th house).
I don`t know the exact degree of his ASC, but know his ASC is in Pisces, so there could actually be a Valentine-ASC-trine, but it`s not certain.

WE do pass rule 2 with:
Saturn trine Pluto
Venus trine Venus
Pluto trine Venus
Karma trine Venus

Actually the last 3 aspects are all interconnected. There is a Grand Trine of his Venus and Karma and my PoM in Taurus, his Pluto in Virgo and my Venus, Isis and Osiris in Capricorn (the interaspects are all within 2° orb).
And my Pholus and Ceres and his Chiron in Pisces are opposite his Pluto, making t his a Kite-configuration. (Pholus and Chiron making exact aspects to the other planets, Ceres is a bit on the wide side with 3°-4°).

The overall points would be about 56; but since his ASC is unknown there could be some change. Still it would probably be a rather high result. There`s also this dw on Pholus-Karma, which I find highly interesting.


"You have the same aspect my guy does--you both have the composite SN on your natal part of reincarnation. I can definitely understand your deep connection with this man."
Yeah, my part of reincarnation is quite active in that synastry.
It`s widely conjunct his natal Sun and conjunct my Draco Sun. It`s also opposite Draco composite Saturn and widely conjunct Draco composite Ceres.

There is something interesting about the DRaco-natal-comparision.

My Draco Sun falls into his tropical Sun (actually exactly conjunct it); My Draco Mercury is in the same sign as his tropical Mercury; my Draco Mars is in the same sign as his tropical Mars; my draco ASC is in the same sign as his tropical ASC.
his Draco Sun is in the same sign as my tropical Sun. His Draco Moon is in the same sign as my tropical Venus; his Draco Venus is in the same sign as my tropical Sun; my Draco Venus is also in the same sign as his tropical Sun.

And if you look at the composite, there is one particular configuration sticking out.

C-Karma conjunct C-Eros
C-Neptune conjunct C-Psyche
C-Karma/ Eros opposite C-Neptune / Psyche
And C-Valentine /Pholus squares thie opposition
C-Uranus, Pluto, Amor are either trine or sextile this opposition

However, what is so remarkable about this is the fact that the C-Karma / Eros is conjunct his natal VAlentine and opposite my natal VAlentine, while C-Neptune/Psyche is conjunct my natal VAlentine, opposing his VAlentine.
And C-VAlentine/Pholus is conjunct my natal Psyche and also conjunct his natal Kaali and Union.
Of course it means there is a T-square, but this is actually a Grand Cross, because his exact Osiris/Uranus-conjunction in Leo fills the hole. Actually the DRaco composite Venus-Jupiter-conjunction falls onto that same place in Leo.
Talk about planetary geometry! lol

And then the action with our NOdal-axis, not something to rejoice about, because it looks quite troublesome, but it seems there is something there.

His NN in Leo conjuncts my Cupid and opposes my Moon and his own Pholus.
C-Mercury and draco composite Valentine are conjunct his SN, his Pholus and my Moon, too.
To make matters more difficult, my natal Siva is square this nodal axis on Leo-Aquarius of his.
His natale Neptune joins my Siva to bombard his own fate-axis with a square.
And the draco composite Neptune / Psyche in Taurus and the draco composite Karma / Eros in Scorpio make this whole thing a Grand Cross.

But my nodal axis isn`t really easier integrated.
My NN is conjunct my own Neptune and ASC, while my SN is conjunct my draco Moon.
HIs tropical Ceres is also conjunct my DC and my draco Moon.
But more important than this my nodal axis receives squares from my own Jupiter, Ceres and Pholus and his Chiron and Pluto (who are exactly in opposition in his chart).
And draco composite Pluto is also squaring my NN (and conjunct all those Pisces planets of my Jupiter, Pholus, Ceres and his Chiron). If you`re generous with orbs the composite Venus-jupiter-conjunction also mingles in (but the orb to the NN square would be 5°, even though the orb to ASC would only be 2°, and the Venus/ Jupiter conjunction to my PHolus and his Chiron would be 3°).

Probaby it`s not a miracle, that he kind of "got stuck" inside my mind and soul.

DD

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Tigerlily
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posted January 13, 2009 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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katatonic
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posted January 13, 2009 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
part of reincarnation? that's a new one on me how do you calculate??

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ErickaF
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posted January 13, 2009 07:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and my guy have Amor conjunct NN!
What's the difference between these two asteroids?

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darkdreamer
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posted January 14, 2009 12:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katatonic,

part of reincarnation:

for those born a.m.:
ASC + Saturn - Jupiter

for those born p.m.:
ASC + Jupiter - Saturn


Mine is on 12°46 Aries and it seems to be very active in my chart,w hich is intersting as I have no major planet conjunct or opposite it.


ERicka,

the difference between Amor and Valentine?
IQ said something about that in a thread about Amor and Valentine I believe; I think it was something like both represents love, but Valentine is the higher degree of love, more sacrificial.

I must look for the exact quote.

EDIT:

I found that quote by IQ:

"NN is also Fate and Destiny. Amor conj someone's NN is a destiny to love this person in general and feel happiness at their joy etc."

and that one

"Valentine type true love means ready to sacrifice everything even the life for the loved one. The Amor love will appeal to a bad guy to not shoot. The Valentine love would gt in the way of the bullet instantly. "


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katatonic
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posted January 15, 2009 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
forgive my density but by am/pm you mean before and after sunset?? above and below the horizon?? or "normal" am and pm?

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Lara
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posted March 15, 2009 12:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have these valentine/NN, venus/NN and pluto/venus-NN karma/NN aspects with a guy.

his valentine sextile my NN (1)
his NN quincunx my valentine (1)
his dr NN square my dr valentine (3)
my dr NN conjunct his dr valentine (3)

his valentine sextile my venus (1)

his NN sextile my venus (2)
his dr venus sextile my N NN (0)
his dr NN conjunct my dr venus (2)

his pluto trine my valentine (2)
his dr pluto quincunx my dr venus (2)
his dr venus quincunx my N pluto (2)
my dr NN bi-quintile his dr pluto (0)

his n karma conjunct my dr valentine (0)
his n valentine trine my dr karma (1)

EDIT:
First meeting transits -
his valentine opposes charts union (0)
his NN trine charts valentine (5)
my NN sextile charts valentine (0)
his NN opposes charts union (3)
my NN trine charts union (1)
his valentine trine charts valentine (1)
his karma opposes charts pluto (0)
his eros conjunct charts DC (2)
my valentine sextile charts AC (1)
my pluto conjunct charts AC (0)
my union trine charts AC (1)
my karma square charts NN (2)
my valentine trine charts venus (4)
my venus sextile charts valentine (2)
my AC conjunct charts juno (0)
his IC opposes charts juno (3)


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posted June 09, 2011 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump* for Asteroid forum; thank you for the link, dear knowflake friend..

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