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IndigoDirae
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posted March 24, 2014 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, this song started playing about a month ago and captured me instantly. The chorus grabbed me. I never paid attention beyond that.

Today, I did.

In finding the acoustic version here at the vocalist's channel, I'm, in a word, floored.
http://youtu.be/HiENpZ5a6iY

I can relate so perfectly to this song, it's as if it sprung from my own soul. I'm definitely going to keep up with this girl. The fact she's dedicated it so unabashedly confirms for me the story that lies enfolded in its lyrics.

Some parts can be tough to quite understand, but, it's clear for the most part. And takes me quite far from here.

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posted March 25, 2014 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I just realized I was studying with (well visiting the same university as) his best friend.

How I noticed?

Because I was googling the teacher who will organize the vocal training course on monday at our school (no clue how I ended up in that course! lol), and she actually is from his hometown and while googling her, the mentioning of his best friend came up, as h had been graduating from the school she is teaching, and along with that there was the information, at which university he had been, which happened to be the same as I did. And actually partly at the same time, and studying the same course.


LOL

No I do not remember us having crossed paths. I think. He kind of seemed a little familiar when I glimpsed him at one of Mr Sags concerts, not as much as his brother, but still.

Small world, right?
And cruel one at that.


And shrinking by the hour.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
And shrinking by the hour.

But to what purpose?

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posted March 25, 2014 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for superman13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri?

Have you had any luck with the asteroid "LOGOS" with Twin Flames?

I was wondering cause iQ has written it to be associated with "Christ Consciousness": http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000302.html

I have with my her in 'Composite' again.

"LOGOS" conjunct "ALMA" conjunct "JUNO" nearly exact degree. Triple WHAMMY!

Do you think it has something to do with Twin Flames? what do you think it could mean, ironic it is on the 1 degree in Virgo.

REGULUS: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211039-2.html

ALSO interesting enough iQ has his LOGOS on my VALENTINE and you CERI have it on my VENUS.

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posted March 25, 2014 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Ceri, if I only knew.

Today, I was strangely retiring. It's as if I'd had enough.

In realising I don't answer because I can't deal with where we are. What we don't have. That I've tried, but he's never really been only a friend; at one point, we were embarking upon a real thing, too.

I can't pretend we weren't more than this. That we didn't even try. And I think that's what breaks down our communication.

I also don't know what else I can honestly do.

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Originally posted by superman13:
Ceri?

Have you had any luck with the asteroid "LOGOS" with Twin Flames?

I was wondering cause iQ has written it to be associated with "Christ Consciousness": http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000302.html

I have with my her in 'Composite' again.

"LOGOS" conjunct "ALMA" conjunct "JUNO" nearly exact degree. Triple WHAMMY!

Do you think it has something to do with Twin Flames? what do you think it could mean, ironic it is on the 1 degree in Virgo.

REGULUS: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211039-2.html

ALSO interesting enough iQ has his LOGOS on my VALENTINE and you CERI have it on my VENUS.



LOGOS is an interesting one. Not sure it is a marker for tf so much as describing a certain quality of relating to each other.
Also LOGOS is very slow moving, so it is good that the orbs are tight.

Interesting synastry with LOGOS there.


in the composite LOGOS is on 6.57 Leo loosely conjunct KARMA On 9°39 Leo in 7th house (though for logos that is a very wide orb).

Interestingly composite LOGOS falls onto the same degree as my natal HYPNOS

"The Constellations Of Stars Shine Brilliantly In The Night Sky"


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posted March 25, 2014 05:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s been tough two days for me as well.
I wish it wouldn`t hurt. for looking at it rationally, nothing ever really was there (exept for some spiritual connection,a nd that is unharmed for some reason, maybe that IS the reason it feels like it does).

But yes part of me almost wishes to "switch it off" (no, not really. Even in my low moments I KNOW I don´t want to go numb anymore. lol)

He has his own life and he should have, but that doesn`t mean I rejoice about that which is not, right?

Curiously though I sense his energy so very strongly for periods in the last two days.

And in a way it seemed to - timewise- coincide with me getting more public with my facebook page. No I did not even DO many things, just updated (well created) my profile including picking up a picture there. I had avoided doing that for a long time, but I just, I don`t know it felt wrong to have such an empty incognito fb-page all at once.
not sure this was a good thing, but it is as it is.

I did this even though I had unwittingly (I am really dumb and unknowing when it comes to facebook. I always have to ask my pupils. lol) pressed a button on his page, that apparently was me saying I would be guest on his concert on 17th may. *Scratches head*
Well I plan to be there, so Id id not bother to find out how to erase that again.

But yes, since he has put it on there (and is pretty much living on facebook - at least using it a good deal-) and now I have uploaded a recent pic of mine as profile picture, it is entirely possible he saw that.
It is also entirely possible he did not recognize me,b ut frankly at the moment I was updating my fb-page, or actually getting it out of the coma it was in, I did not care who could see what.

But it was a change in habit for me.

And yes I know this is PURELY COINCIDENTAL, this time for real, but not even half an hour later he posted this tidbit of being away for the next two days, visiting "family" (read: his girlfriend).

He has never done that before, getting so private-personal, not on his OFFICIAL fb-page.

The timing was, well, something.


As for my own fb page, it is odd, but I was thinking about how the first quarter of the year flew by, and thinking back about when I was really happy,a nd I guess that is the reason somehow my personal official facebook life starts with Jude Law.
After I had uploaded the pics from Henry V, I was a bit confused looking down at my page and thinking: Why did I have to start it with that? *scratches head*

And apart from my picture, I put up a picture of ORION.
Why?

This sunday I was acting remarkably strange I suppose.. But probably there is a reason my subconsciousness wanted to have it there, so I leave it.
Besides I did not want to have a total empty fb-page that seemed to just have the notification of Mr Sg`s concert. That seemed to focused on him for my taste.


But anyway so the timing was really something.


Surprisingly though when I went to bed, a little later, I sensed him SO STRONGLY. It was, holy crap!BAM,
but while I now and then sense him around, THIS was different.

It was this feeling I ONLY get after having been in his physical proximity, like it is mutual.


And then I was dreaming strangely. Actually a mix of half-consciousness and dream. The halfconscious thing I remember had to do with our spirits, how mine was actually trying to take a step back, to detach, just a tiny little bit, but his wouldn´t let go of me. Actually it felt like his spirit was all wrapped around mine. I also remember later on having been awoken to a song, and I only remember these lines: "
Let's talk
Let's talk
Let's talk
Let's talk"

LOL
Yes, that is my intention, eventually. when the opportunity arises.



Another thing I remember is a dream, and in this dream I was actually standing beside him and observing how he was intently watching a picture, a moving picture actually (like in Harry Potter). There were a lot of people on that picture, women mostly, but also some men. But he was looking especially at a female figure pretty much in the centre. I must admit to my embarassment I didn`t recognize the figure, until she turned her head a little to the left (from observer´s perspective), and the woman was me.
And I was really puzzled int hat dream and turning to him, but he didn`t notice me, just kept on staring at that picture, and I was just thinking: Why are you watching me? lol

It also is very rare that I dream I can watch myself from a third perspective, at least not within a dream. Happened now and then, but then I was thinking it might have been some kind of halfconscious out-of-body-experience.


"I can't deal with where we are. What we don't have. That I've tried, but he's never really been only a friend; at one point, we were embarking upon a real thing, too."
that´s the problem. You can`t even pretend it is only friendship. It just is something very different. And I can relate to the "not dealing" part.
I try, in my own way.
Actually I apparently deal by changing quite a few ways of behaviour on my behalf. But I think that is actually a good thing.


"I also don't know what else I can honestly do. "
About the situation?
Well, talk to him seriously? Getting it out of the way?
But then I UNDERSTAND that this i snot always possible.


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posted March 25, 2014 06:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by superman13:

Have you had any luck with the asteroid "LOGOS" with Twin Flames?

I was wondering cause iQ has written it to be associated with "Christ Consciousness": http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000302.html

I have with my her in 'Composite' again.

"LOGOS" conjunct "ALMA" conjunct "JUNO" nearly exact degree. Triple WHAMMY!

Do you think it has something to do with Twin Flames? what do you think it could mean, ironic it is on the 1 degree in Virgo.

REGULUS: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211039-2.html

ALSO interesting enough iQ has his LOGOS on my VALENTINE and you CERI have it on my VENUS.


We have Logos on Leo 28° in our Composite, conjunct Kaali 0° and ASC 1°

C. Logos conjuncts my n. Spirit 1°, Aeternitas 2° and his n. South Node 2° and Devine 1°

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Curiously though I sense his energy so very strongly for periods in the last two days.

And in a way it seemed to - timewise- coincide with me getting more public with my facebook page. No I did not even DO many things, just updated (well created) my profile including picking up a picture there. I had avoided doing that for a long time, but I just, I don`t know it felt wrong to have such an empty incognito fb-page all at once.
not sure this was a good thing, but it is as it is.


Ceri I can relate so much to what you described there.
Very similar thing happened to me lol.

After Indigo and a few of my good friends urged me to "reveal" myself to him on fb (I put up a profile pic of me then too), I sensed him very strongly for the rest of the week, followed by a a very vivid dream the next night.
If I remember correctly I think it may have been the night of Valentines day.

I remember I was "floating/hovering" just a bit above him.
He was in the studio, in a recorning booth it looked like and he was writing something on a piece of paper.
Then he folded the paper and placed it on a table and went over to his mic.
He looked like he was trying hard to think about something, with his eyes closed.
Then he opened his eyes and said, "I FEEL her..."
And he looked up at me with a painful expression of longing and tears in his eyes.
THAT right there sent a jolt of powerful energy rushing up my spine and through my heart. I remember gasping in my dream even lol. It shook up me so much that it made me wake up.
When I went back to sleep I saw the same studio again, same place, but this time he wasn't there.
The studio was empty.
But I saw the paper he placed on the table before, and it had unfolded, revealing what he had written on it.
It said very clearly, "I feel her"...

I wonder if I may have seen a verse or title from one of his future songs lol.

It was so random.
But it gave me an odd sense of bliss, peace and serenity.

I sensed him like crazy the whole week after.
Followed by even crazier synchronicities...

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posted March 25, 2014 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
It's so interesting you say that, iQ.

I've found a very strong case is possible for Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny. Watched those two for awhile. One of my former clients was the location manager for The X-Files; he confirmed that what we saw was real. They were always practically glowing in each other's presence. Totally adored each other - from the audition, when they stumbled across one another. They were bantering within seconds. Both can focus like a laser, but glow in each other's presence.

Why they married other people is a mystery. He theorised that Gillian thought it was important she establish herself with a reliable figure, which Klotz seemed, at the time. David, on the other hand, was a loose cannon. She was much more career-focussed than he was - at the time.

My client mused that David married Tea out of a combined desire to show that he had 'grown up' - and out of spite. Some of their arguments are legendary, and yet, when they returned to set to work - it was as if no storm had taken place at all. They had a REALLY hard time staying angry with each other, and it made their decade-long partnership possible - rather than a warzone.

Astrologically ...

I noticed their 1º LEO SUN-SUN conjunction immediately. AND, though birth times are debatable, their MOONs are both in late AQU.

Then their 1º mutual PSYCHE-EROS conjunctions ...

... which don't aspect each others'. At all!

12º-13º SCORPIO
01º-02º GEMINI

But the real magic occurs in their tropical synastry and composite.

AMOR conjunct AMOR - 1º
AMOR conjunct EROS - 0º
AMOR conjunct PSYCHE - 1º

PLUTO conjunct VENUS - 4º
VENUS trine SATURN - 2º

And, in the composite:

EROS conjunct PSYCHE - 0º12

It hits many of their personal MPs being in 22º LEO.

LUST-ISIS-NNODE conjunct (CAN)

VALENTINE-KARMA-NEPTUNE conjunct (SCO)

In HELIO,

ISIS and OSIRIS are in the same sign, and contraparallel.

LUST opposite LUST - 1º
MARS/EROS conjunct SATURN - 0º50

Interestingly, neither of their EROS and PSYCHE are conjunct here. They're same-sign, or nearly, but too far to conjoin.

Nonetheless, they HAVE had a very unconventional relationship which has spanned nearly two decades now. So that counts for something.

What do you think?

For me, it's less about traditional marriage than it is merging and working in concert. They've certainly done that.

Perhaps the lack of JUNO contacts indicate the lacking of tradition? If only we had the means to know angles, and certain degrees. Augh!



Indigo,

your description intrigued me and I stumbled across this article apparently a very recent one

"Last year marked the 20th anniversary of the premiere of '90s sci-fi hit "The X-Files". To commemorate, the show's stars, Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny, appeared on multiple magazine covers together, spoke at Comic Con in New York and San Francisco and launched countless rumors of a romance.

When Anderson joined HuffPost Live to chat about her upcoming NBC drama "Crisis," host Ricky Camilleri asked whether there was any truth to the speculation about a romantic relationship with Duchovny. Anderson's answer was blunt.

"Now that it's over, I can tell you: no." She added, "It's a nice idea, but it's not going to happen."

The reason? She said the pair became too close during the show's nine-season run.

"I think we know each other too well. I think we probably know each other better than we know our spouses at any time that we might have had spouses," she said.

But Anderson admitted that she and Duchovny did have a spark.

"There is an attraction," she said. "There might even be more than an attraction, but it's not going to happen. And it's that frisson that has made it interesting in the series and continues to make it interesting.""

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posted March 25, 2014 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because they are Leos. Too proud to admit. Who knows they might get together in the future.

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posted March 25, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Indigo,

your description intrigued me and I stumbled across this article apparently a very recent one

"Last year marked the 20th anniversary of the premiere of '90s sci-fi hit "The X-Files". To commemorate, the show's stars, Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny, appeared on multiple magazine covers together, spoke at Comic Con in New York and San Francisco and launched countless rumors of a romance.

When Anderson joined HuffPost Live to chat about her upcoming NBC drama "Crisis," host Ricky Camilleri asked whether there was any truth to the speculation about a romantic relationship with Duchovny. Anderson's answer was blunt.

"Now that it's over, I can tell you: no." She added, "It's a nice idea, but it's not going to happen."

The reason? She said the pair became too close during the show's nine-season run.

"I think we know each other too well. I think we probably know each other better than we know our spouses at any time that we might have had spouses," she said.

But Anderson admitted that she and Duchovny did have a spark.

"There is an attraction," she said. "There might even be more than an attraction, but it's not going to happen. And it's that frisson that has made it interesting in the series and continues to make it interesting.""


Thanks for sharing that! Yeah, the industry is still obsessed with appearances. Contractual obligations required them to keep buzz going, and they did that and how. But the truth is, they, much like Kate and Leo, are private people.

There may be some truth to what she's saying in the sense of it never becomes fully realised due to that 'I know you TOO well'.

Curiously, that was Fate's primary objection; that, and 'inevitably losing me' which I couldn't convince himself out of.

Chris is brutal in his scheduling, though. XF was like an endurance test for even the day players. (My costar worked a few key seasons.) No doubt they DID spend 24/7 with each other for several week-spans for years. With a connexion like theirs, there's little wonder they'd become intensely bonded - which, they did. Just always avoiding the label, and the tradition. How curious.

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posted March 25, 2014 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wowzer!

DiCaprio's got ISIS conjunct OSIRIS in Helio! Wide, at 3º, but it's there. CAP.

No such luck with Winslet, but interestingly enough, her OSIRIS parallels his ISIS. (0º40).''

What I noticed right off was her PSYCHE conjunct his EROS - 2º.

His SATURN is smack on her ALMA, though; 1º. That feels both binding, troublesome, and significant.

This is beautiful.

Her VENUS opposes his MARS - 2º
His VENUS opposes her MARS - 5º

On the TAU / SCO axis.

JUNO trine JUNO - 1º

Her URANUS conjoins his MARS, 1º, throwing that into the mix. Hm. I'll have to check the tropical houses for insight into that.

Wow!

VALENTINE conjunct NEPTUNE in Helio, 1º. Sextile VENUS, sextile PLUTO, trine PSYCHE, trine DESTINN. Beautiful.

AMOR-ANGEL - 1º, on GC; LUST is 2º away, closer to the VALENTINE-NEPTUNE.

Hah!

ALMA-JUNO. 1º.

VENUS-OSIRIS-VESTA - 1º.

URANUS exactly opposite the EARTH-MOON. Ahhh. That may be the issue. It's conjunct UNION 1º.

Now, their tropical synastry I've saved until now, because it'll make your .

Her SUN conjunct his MOON - 4º
Her MOON conjunct his MOON - 2º

Her MOON conjunct his ASC - 9º
His MOON conjunct her ASC - 3º

Her SUN conjunct his ASC - 7º

Her PLUTO conjunct his MOON - 5º
His PLUTO conjunct her SUN - 3º

His PLUTO conjunct her ASC - 2º
Her PLUTO conjunct his ASC - 5º

Her NNODE conjunct his VENUS - 2º

His VERTEX exactly conjunct her DSC - 0º10.
Her VERTEX in his 7H.

His AMOR in the sign of her SUN, MOON, and ASC (LIBRA).

Her AMOR conjunct his JUNO - 3º

Her VALENTINE conjunct his OSIRIS - 1º

The number 11 also appears as the degree in 6 of their placements: PSYCHE, VERTEX, NNODE, VESTA, MOON, and ASC.

And, the tropical composite is exactly as expected. Packed 1H.

However, interestingly enough, not as many conjunctions. SUN is 0º SCO, while MOON is 14º LIB.

SUN conjunct MERCURY - 5º
MOON conjunct VENUS - 4º
PLUTO conjunct VENUS - 2º
PLUTO conjunct MOON - 5º
PLUTO conjunct ASC - 1º

and

SUN conjunct URANUS - 0º20.

NNODE conjunct VALENTINE - 2º

Interestingly, ALMA and JUNO are too far for a conjunction here: 5º. Instead, ALMA is nearly conjunct the SNODE.

5H ISIS conjunct BML - 1º

4H OSIRIS conjunct VESTA - 1º

So on the one hand, it may be a 'journey of convergence' still. That's a LOT of PLUTO, I'll say.

It's become pretty accepted fact that upon meeting on the Titanic project, they've never lost touch. Through upheavals, good fortune, marriages, kids, other projects, and miles of distance, they've kept a pretty constant line to each other.

More than a few crew and fellow cast said that 'Revolutionary Road' was a potent reunion of sorts, but that its stars were older and wiser. Everyone couldn't help but get the sense they were holding back - to such a degree, their performances lacked the initial fire they brought forth in their debut roles.

I've not seen the film and can't comment, but the stills do seem to betray to me the crossroads they were at during that time.

Needless to say, there's some strong stuff there.

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posted March 25, 2014 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear God!

I just wanted to check a synastric aspect between Jolie and Pitt, but forgot to switch out of composite.

ALMA-JUNO - 0º80.

Wow. And ALMA-JUNO in Helio, but 3º.

So, it's much closer in the Tropical. That seems meaningful.

Oh, wow.

OUR ALMA-JUNO is 3º in Helio, too - and, obviously - 0º01 in Tropical.

Yeah. There is something to that.

We also have a near-conjunction of ISIS and OSIRIS (6º) which becomes 1º in Tropical.

I think when an aspect becomes nearing exact in Tropical that's otherwise wide or too wide in Helio - that's very significant in some way.

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Wow strong synastries!
And Alma-Juno again. lol


I think if an aspect is transdimensional it is VERY significant. Almost like it MUST materialize, but also has the spiritual background.

It could be that with the tropical being the closer conjunction that the need for physical materialization is even greater, while with the helio being closer to exactness, it is a definite marker of their spiritual connection, but might not be as insistent in physical manifestation (esp. if the aspect is very wide - over 3 degrees).

WE have the opposite thing going on to you and Fate, Indigo.

Exact helio conjunction of Alma-Juno, but the tropical one is 2 degrees wide. Still a good orb though. Especially since in our case it is intervowen in a very strong planetary web.

Including a Cradle formation, and what I noticed a big 5th harmonic (Including 10th harmonic) pattern.
As a matter of fact ALL planets are included in some kind of 5th harmonic (10th harmonic) patter, EXCEPT for Mars. Funny that.

Our tropical Alma-Juno is part of pretty much all kind of aspect figures, and some very challenging.

Part of a T-square, part of this quintile-pattern, part of a Cradle.

I will have to look up the midpoints. I would not be surprised if there were some activated.

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posted March 25, 2014 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't paste this directly, since she's running a handy little plugin with which I'm very familiar , but I WILL put the link here.
http://carolynchipman.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/a-message-from-guinevere/

Read it. That's it. Just read it. Absorb it, 'hear' her, and feel it. Draw your own separate, individual conclusions. It'll be 'a-ha!' for some, a 'yaaawn' for others, and do nothing for many still.

Still. Read it.

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Guinevere. Naturally.

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posted March 25, 2014 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'Don't weep for those aboard Malaysia Airlines. They were not aboard. This is yet another limitation of human understanding.

For me to tell you they were not aboard, your limited understanding simply cannot process it. Their bodies were aboard. THEY were aboard.

No.

No.

When a large group of souls gather, it is for a purpose. You, nor I, or anyone else have any right to judge that purpose, or that group.

That's crazy, you say.

Limited understanding.

While I do not know the purpose of those who boarded flight MH370, I can tell you, THEY are fine.

THEY are in no pain.

THEY have endured a struggle.

While complex, though enduring, did the narrative of 'LOST' teach you nothing regarding the sweeping movements of a group of souls? Perhaps what as enfolded in a story became too complicated and unwieldy for even its 'creators' to conclude with any satisfaction. (Yes, I put 'creators' in quotes.)

No one will be able to find accurate data regarding its flight path until the work of the tragedy has been done.

Tragedy, as you know, forces sudden awareness. While hardly the preferred method of anyone, in desperate times, it is called.

According to this soul group, it was a desperate time.

They acted in concert. Do not weep for them. They are not lost.

It is my sincere hope that those who are more enlightened among them will receive their communications, perhaps, en masse.

I fear the greatest tragedy of all here is that they are not being heard. What may have been a monumental leap of progress for humanity as a whole has come too soon. It has fallen upon deaf ears.

This race is too embroiled in scientific analysis; in logical, rational procedure. 'We would have been unable to find this were it not for brand new wonderfully innovative investigative techniques,' boast certain headlines.

Missing the point entirely.

Should you weep, do so for ignorance.

Commune, if you are so moved, to offre gratitude to these brave souls who would make history. Thank them for their sacrifice, and wish them well on their continued journey.

They will more than likely be back. Their method may be different. They may have tried this before. They may tire of doing so for the purpose of running what appears to be a glorified hamster wheel. They may regroup and find a better way.

But they are not lost. They are, I think, disappointed.

It does, in a way, feel a meaningless departure.

We are, I must reiterate, being asked to think beyond our limited understanding.

This had to be said.

I am angry. This displeases me. EVERYONE is unhappy about this. We are proud of the souls who took this so courageously upon themselves, and are experiencing a sorrow and frustration that humanity may only find it within themselves to weep, or curse unseen forces.

Unseen forces, I should remind, that are often cursed in times of misfortune, and rarely offred gratitude in times of prosperity.

There is something terribly wrong here.

That is all.'

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Guinevere. Naturally.


That got me, too.

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I am not weeping for the souls for they are infinite.
But I DO feel for the human part of them.

And actually i mostly feel for the ones who were left behind and grieve.


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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow strong synastries!
And Alma-Juno again. lol

I think if an aspect is transdimensional it is VERY significant. Almost like it MUST materialize, but also has the spiritual background.

It could be that with the tropical being the closer conjunction that the need for physical materialization is even greater, while with the helio being closer to exactness, it is a definite marker of their spiritual connection, but might not be as insistent in physical manifestation (esp. if the aspect is very wide - over 3 degrees).

WE have the opposite thing going on to you and Fate, Indigo.

Exact helio conjunction of Alma-Juno, but the tropical one is 2 degrees wide. Still a good orb though. Especially since in our case it is intervowen in a very strong planetary web.

Including a Cradle formation, and what I noticed a big 5th harmonic (Including 10th harmonic) pattern.
As a matter of fact ALL planets are included in some kind of 5th harmonic (10th harmonic) patter, EXCEPT for Mars. Funny that.

Our tropical Alma-Juno is part of pretty much all kind of aspect figures, and some very challenging.

Part of a T-square, part of this quintile-pattern, part of a Cradle.

I will have to look up the midpoints. I would not be surprised if there were some activated.


That's what I was thinking.

It might lend to why you have SUCH a strong astral connexion, whereas ours seems more pushed towards physical manifestation. Which kind of drives me insane, honestly. Heh.

Like right now. I was just going to check his FB, but though, nah. Nope. Not gonna do it. I was trying to figure why I kept seeing him sans facial hair the last few days. He was doing the goatee thing since December. (Which, he knows, I hate. Well, you know. 'Dislike'.)

Random (but comedic) selfie. Recently shaven.

... Ah.

Sigh.

Right. So.

What's the deal with Draconic?

I noticed how we have the same 1H / SUN-MOON-ASC-VAL-VEN, stellium in the Draco, too. Just in LEO.

Curiously, my costar and I have a SUN-MOON conjunction (wide) in Draco. 10H, I think. Maybe 11H. TAU.

There's no aspect in the Tropical. 28° LEO, 08° AQU.

I thought the Draco always mirrored the Tropical?

If Helio is Soul, and Tropical is 'now' (Present Incarnation), what's Draco - oh, Ceri the Wise? 😉

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"It might lend to why you have SUCH a strong astral connexion,"
Apparently we have.

Actually Iw as doing some shopping, when I suddenly sensed him so strongly, out of nowwhere, thinking to myself: "So are you back agai?" And actually hearing in the back of my mind: "Almost".


Well, of course I filed it under "Ceri`s strange mind-entertainment", but when i checked his facebook page, I saw that he had posted a link to an interview to Artus, which I was JUST watching, when Guinevre`s message came in .lol, and he must have posted it right after that little mental incident. Never ceases to amaze me.

I do think though it is not EXCLUSIVELY meant as a spiritual background program. There is something that has to manifest in physical. I am nto quite sure to what and how though.


"Random (but comedic) selfie. Recently shaven."
eah, that is how it works. LOL


Also, even if not as tight, you DO have the Alma-Juno conjunction in helio as well!
I definitely think that is a strong incident.
I also noticed how GA and DD did NOT have the Alma-Juno-thingy. I found that interesting.


"I noticed how we have the same 1H / SUN-MOON-ASC-VAL-VEN, stellium in the Draco, too. Just in LEO."
The aspects in Draco are the same like in tropical, just in a diff. sign.
However, in a composite an opposition can appear as conjunction, or a sextile as trine, too. Because it is a midpoint chart, and there are always two midpoints in a circle.


In synastry however new aspects can form, if two people have different nodal degrees.

Mr Sag`s and mine definitely looks karmic, the Draco-Draco-make up. Also pretty intense.


Just Draco - Draco
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his DESC conjunct my Venus (1)
his Saturn conjunct my Venus exact
his Vertex conjunct my Venus (1)

his MC conjunct my ALMA (2)
his MC conjunct my IC (2)
his Sun opposite my Pluto (3)
his Sun conjunct my IC exact
his Sun conjunct my ALMA exact
his Moon opposite my Pluto (1)
his Mon conjunct my ALMA exact
his Moon conjunct my IC exact


his EROS conjunct my KARMA (1)
his AMOR opposite my KARMA (2)

his ALMA conjunct my Pluto (3)

his LUST conjnct my Moon (2)

and just because of the importance of the Arthurians:


his ARTHUR and MERLIN conjunct my CHIRON exact, opposite my DNA

his GINEVRA conjunct my ALMA (1)
his GINEVRA conjunct my IC exact
his GINEVRA opposite my Pluto (2)


his EXCALIBUR conjunct my Pluto exact


my GINIEVERE conjunct his Vertex (2)
my GUINEVERE conjunct his KARMA (1)

my EXCALIBUR opposite his Saturn exact
my eXCALIBUR conjunct hsi AVX (2)
my EXCALIBUR conjunct his ASC (1)

"hat's Draco - oh, Ceri the Wise? 😉"
According to IQ the past, actually more than that, an accumulation of past life experiences (several past lives).
And of course only those which are important for your present incarnation, or they would not be scripted in your chart.

Well, I sometimes call helio the "purpose" and Draco the "cause" for the present incarnation. Maybe that is too flippant though.


Draco is also more than just a simple past life-summary. It is what puts you on your path (relation to the NORTH Node), and also it deals with emotional attachments your soul has, in so far it is a soulmate-chart, though not necessarily a twinsoul-chart, I guess.

But nevertheless if your Draco charts are not strong, I doubt that there can be a deep level of soul-attachment or - connection. But it is still very closely aligned with this rpesent incarnation and physical manifestation, whereas the helio can be a little more independent from that.

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Originally posted by superman13:
Although, the longing for her isn't painful if that makes sense. I just miss her immensely its so deep its annoying but frustrating but wonderful? Make sense? Lol

I think I already merged with her spiritual thats why it isn't so painful after that spiritual orgasm thing I had twice which surpassed any orgasm physical of course. Arghh I dont know how to explain it arghhh!!!

Help LOL!



It's encouraging to see a guy express his longing as the other part of a TF relationship as opposed to just us women. Makes me hopeful Cusp experiences the deep longing as well..somehow..someway. And that it's not just me who is going nuts. 💙💙

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Okay, hang on a damned minute.

I'm noticing that I mistook that Draco charts mirror the Tropical, because mine and my mother's (and Fate's, I think) do, and I practised with them first years ago.

Here's our Draco:

It closely mimics our Tropical.

I've noticed this DOESN'T happen with mine and my husband's, or costar's.

So, hm. Is it a math thing? Why's that happening?

Same reason I paid little attention to our Davison. It's almost identical to our Tropical composite.

Our SUN and MOON change, and make a super-wide conjunction: 9°55.

It's significant to me, because the SUN is 23° SCO, and MOON, 03° SAG. My MOON is 24° SCO; his MOON is 04° SAG.

Ahh. 'The Depth of My Soul' is playing ....

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
We have Logos on Leo 28° in our Composite, conjunct Kaali 0° and ASC 1°

C. Logos conjuncts my n. Spirit 1°, Aeternitas 2° and his n. South Node 2° and Devine 1°


That is interesting Lavender! I think its a lovely placement. I do like the Gnostics. The Holy Logos comes to mind even before I found the link above..

I would be interested with others

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