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MorpHnStorM
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posted February 08, 2014 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
He is. Ohhh, he's so ... complicated.

In his teens, he studied comedy, and wrote as a means of dealing with personal problems. One of the youngest comics to actually open for larger acts, he still needed an education, so he went for his EE. But he really just enjoyed ACTUAL engineering - not the many steps involved in getting the degree. So he kept it up as a hobby, left the vocational school and went to a community college. By that point, he was nearing 30. (He'll be this year.) He got the BS in chem in Dec 2012. By March, he'd gotten a job in a lab, and I effectively considered the show shelved until further notice. It broke my heart, but it also made me finish what I'd started.

I was angry that he had to do that. But I got it, too. He needed to feel truly independent and get his life to that point. So that's what he's been doing. It's just been upsetting to see him try and fit into the conventional mould when he's always simply been the type to break it.

It's been ... frustrating. But enough of that.

What makes you feel you're foraying back into art from a period of science? I've been doing that, too, largely since 2008. Now I feel I'm achieving a better balance.


Well, you never know...He may be one to break barriers in his field of study...I understand that about wanting to be independent too...and I understand "complicated"! Still, he could very well make it back around to comedy...Maybe it's just the timing and what he needs to figure out/be doing...I've seen that happen so many times...coming back 'round full circle..Hang in there. You mentioned your scientific background, so clearly there's aninteresting connection there...A complementary one that's typically associated with "TFs". Same thing with mine.

I was still pursuing my art even when I was in school for the sciences, but it just got to such a point of frustration (and I just wasn't bring in enough money to support my self) I just had to set it aside (with the plan of returning to it when I was done with school). I really had been trying with my art though. Like I said, I started early; I remember being 9 years old when I was making greeting cards, and selling them. I'd had some success, but it just wasn't enough. I had so much **** I was dealing with all through childhood (abuse/neglect and health issues), and the baggage that was as I got older. I had responsibilities. I had a decision to make between full time work/building a business, or school. My decision was made based on the success I was having with the art, so I chose school. I still tried to continue with the art, but it just wasn't happening. The thing is, I have a genuine passion for both of these subjects (and many things associated with them), so it wasn't like I was trying to fit my self into any box or like I was being influenced by others. I loved what I did and I was good at it! I had a big plan!

What happened? oooh, a series of painful events (including the transition of "TF" and others closest to me, and becoming seriously ill). That could be summed up by mentioning the Pluto and Neptune 8th house transit I've gone/been going through...And a Saturn return completed a few years ago. It's all lead me to believe that perhaps, a new season really has begun and that it's time to leave that behind. Ugh, it's too much to get into now, but I understand things happen for a reason. Time for a new phase to begin... Maybe all of that (career) really was a distraction...Perhaps I just needed a real time out for healing and growth (spiritual and otherwise, but esp. spiritual) too.

I've turned back to my art and music during this time, and my DC/TF has been a big part of that as well...Just seems that this is part of what I should be focusing on now, as everything else has been stripped away. That's the way it's working out. I've also been thinking of going to work in hospice for a bit to help those in transition...I'd like to work mentoring and assisting children back in there somewhere too. I'll always be around to assist others spiritually a best I can, and I'll always be involved in the care of the environment in some fashion.


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Ceridwen
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posted February 08, 2014 06:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Discernment is key.

I'm starting to be mildly annoyed at Mel and Nichole being the measuring stick against which all souls who may fit the profile are placed. That's bothering me.

This came to me just as it came to them. I'm sure it's resonating with others, too.

But I just don't have the - oh, audacity's not the best word. 'Conceit' isn't either. But I don't have enough of it to make me the be-all, end-all judge of who are and aren't Twinflames.


I second that.

But I admit I have ... slight.... difficulties with people who make themselves "(spiritual) authorities" and maybe even more so with people who start taking their word as an absolute.

It`s interesting I was dreaming of "the place" again, its look change, but I always know what it is. And this time, among many other scenes taking place around there, at first I was talking or even teaching younger ones, or maybe more informing them about a myth.
I did it under supervision though, it was like I was a "teacher-potential" or a "junior teacher" or something like that; anyway my rassignment was to talk to them about Orest, and naturally about Agamemnon and Klytemnaestra. I made a mistake though, for a few moments getting Agamemnon and her new husband mixed up, but I noticed the mistake and found on the right track again.

However, I was also myself taking a class, and the subject of that class was "guilt". or more precisely the difference between "guilt" and "responsibility" and "punishment" and " consequence".


I don`t know exactly why but as an example the teacher (who was looking like my new colleague btw. lol) asked:
"So was Cicero guilty of his own death"?

Where did Cicero came from all at once?

I think though she wanted to make us discern that our actions of course have consequences and that this might even include our death or a beloved one`s death, but that this is not the same thing as being "guilty".

So yeah I am going to school even in my dreams. lol


Oh and btw what is the pope up to?
And what has he got to do with "gamma-rays"?

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posted February 08, 2014 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Morph- what's your opinion about the "other signs and symptoms" that have been used to validate TF's? I know there's a lot that Mel and Nicole say are not true that so many others say is a key? For instance the numerology, 11:11 concept, synchronicities, parallel lives etc.? I agree that although they seem extremely knowledgable, using them as an absolute measuring stick may not be the best idea. We all seem to agree on the astrological aspects, that's for sure, but what else? I'd be really interested in your 2 cents...

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posted February 08, 2014 09:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion."


Ws watching the first two ep of the new Beauty and the Beast series. Reminded me of the old one

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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted February 08, 2014 12:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I got the hint.
I will not share any views or experiences of mine here any longer.

I chose to participate in hopes of finding like minded individuals to discuss things honestly and respectfully with.
I've had experiences of my own I really wanted to get off my chest and I felt this was the right place to do so. However, it seems I was wrong because instead of acceptance, I was treated with prejudice and looked down upon just for my experience not quite fitting in.
I'm disappointed to have even tried.

It makes me feel guilty to even feel this connection with him, all because it doesnt fit in with the so-called "norm" of how such connections SHOULD take place.

I thought this was about sharing freely, but some of you are ready to jump the gun at me and dismiss my experience as "invalid", all because I haven't met him yet, and he's an artist.
It still doesn't make my experience any less valid than your's, or that girl whose story I decided to share.
Anything is possible.

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IndigoDirae
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posted February 08, 2014 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
The meeting happened in LA and from what she's told me it has been her agent I think who set it up.
She shared with him, her cover of one of his songs and they talked about his future tour.

As for me, well its due to distance and simply because I don't feel now is that time.
I still have a lot of inner work to do, a lot to learn.
And besides, I'm not one to go after him like a stalker lol.
I'll just leave it up to the universe, it'll happen when its meant to.

But for higher education and career purposes and also because I want to move from here (I am 19 and studying in college) I'll be moving down south in 2016.


Okay. Thanks for confirming. I figured you were very young. As to your connexion, for lack of better, here's my advice there.

'It happens when it happens' is an attitude I took often up until my 30s. I fear I'd lost a bit of time because of it. The truth is, WE have to make our own way at times. And THAT becomes 'the right time'. It takes groundwork.

See, if I hadn't set forth what I did in 2006, and then again in 2011, were Fate to move here, it'd be bizarre and inappropriate to try and integrate into each other's lives the right way. I'd still have to be pretending to not know his actual identity, he'd still be lying to me, and we'd have to pick up as acquaintances.

Is that the way it was actually supposed to be?

In some sense. The distance I imposed and the estrangement that followed brought us both back to square one. But we KNOW the truth. It's not like 'who are you and why are you like this?' That part's been taken care of, in 2011.

So while I understand your wanting to wait for 2016, are you intending that your merely being there will incite a meeting? Based off of dreams and an intense psychic connexion?

I'd like to inject a little practicality.

Intense psychic connexions do not a Twinflame make. You know that. I can't count on a single hand anymore the intense psychic connexions I've had with people - none of whom are my Twinflame. Dreams, telepathy, numerology - these just aren't enough.

I feel YOU have to move this forward. YOU must make the first step in order to get things going in a new direction. You've got to grab the bull by the horns. Fate (ha, ha, but not 'mine') will take you to the door in many cases, but you have to open it.

I think you're standing at that door now. You can likely be clever, too. Rather than waiting for a destined meet-cute. Sometimes all the universe does is make us aware. We have to create the context and do the footwork.

Otherwise, Fate and I might've not met until we crossed paths years from now, via those friends of his who would've crossed paths with those friends of mine, (as tends to happen with creative professionals) and so on.

But think of what would've never happened. A LOT.

Wouldn't you want to get the ball rolling now as opposed to waiting for 'the right time'? It may never come.

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posted February 08, 2014 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
This thread is fascinating and taking me forever to read (still on page 3!). I always felt soulmates were people who teach us lessons in life, with whom we can develop knowledge about ourselves and assist us in our spiritual progression through life. They may be fleeting associations, or long relationships, they may last a week or a lifetime, but their purpose is to enable us to learn life's lessons and apply them to our personal development. There is the danger they can confused with romantic love, and indeed they also might involve genuine romantic love. That is something we usually find out in retrospect as we look back on the meaning of our association with that person. We can also have many soulmates in a lifetime.

With Twin flames, I think it's like you're stuck with them, for better or for worse. They might not necessarily be good for you, perhaps they mirror our strengths and weaknesses, but there is something profound that draws you together than you cannot control or explain. They hold a significance in our lives on a more subconscious, intimate level than soulmates can provide. Soulmates have understanding and compassion, twinflames not necessarily so.

Just my first feelings anyway. I need to do further study.


Hi there, Jo B. Welcome to the discussion. I love your take on it. Very similar for me.

My own situation likely exhibits this difficult dichotomy.

My husband is a companion soul. We're here to learn commitment against all odds. Of course, the man who is more likely my Twinflame than not, has been in my life in some capacity since 2006. The connexion was bizarre and instantaneous. But I also knew what we were here for, because I'd unconsciously set out to find him.

So fast forward 8 years. My husband asks if I'm ever going to look at revisiting that relationship. He wants me to say 'no'. He and I don't have THAT type of connexion as creatives, and he wishes we did. But I'm not going to lie, either. I don't have THAT connexion with anyone else. My husband is my home and my heart. Fate is my heart and my soul.

So to have me promise, no, I'll never 'go there' again, is complicated. We tried last year. You ever see Aaron Sorkin's 'The Newsroom'? Will and Mac. Yeah. That's us. Working together was a volatile nightmare - for everyone.

Saying we're able to try this again in a decade reopens that can of worms. Will we be romantically involved? He's hurt me so deeply ... just ... cut to the quick. Feeling justified or that I'm deserving. Horrible emotional and mind games. I cut it off. That was last March.

The talk of his likely inevitably moving to LA, as so many of his friends and colleagues have, is ... tricky. My husband wants to know 'we won't go through THAT again'. I want to promise it; to be practical enough to say we won't.

But.

People tend to just avoid the person in any meaningful way. I gave up on the show. I nursed my heart in private away from him. Now he's even angrier that I distanced myself for 6 months, avoiding communication. I'm trying to reopen that channel, and, for the first time, having zero success.

So I'm focussed on producing the project I'm developing now. It came first anyway. Gives us both time to cool off.

But then there's The Future.

I finally decided, I can't guarantee that to my husband. Because this project MUST be done. It's what we're here to do, ultimately. I don't want to put anyone through the wringer, though, and certainly not myself, so I'm playing it very cautiously. It's not in the cards now. I'm not going there - at all. I want my partner back, my friend; but I'm not risking my emotional equilibrium - AGAIN.

So if he starts chasing, will I run - again? Likely. That's what we've done for 8 years, off and on. Like a demented relay race for two.

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posted February 08, 2014 01:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Ok I got the hint.
I will not share any views or experiences of mine here any longer.

I chose to participate in hopes of finding like minded to discuss things honestly and respectfully with.
I've had experiences of my own I really wanted to get off my chest and I felt this was the right place to do so. However, it seems I was wrong because instead of acceptance, I was treated with prejudice and looked down upon just for my experience not quite fitting in.
I'm disappointed to have even tried.

It makes me feel guilty to even feel this connection with him, all because it doesnt fit in with the so-called "norm" of how such connections SHOULD take place.

I thought this was about sharing freely, but some of you are ready to jump the gun at me and dismiss my experience as "invalid", all because I haven't met him yet, and he's an artist.
It still doesn't make my experience any less valid than your's, or that girl whose story I decided to share.
Anything is possible.


I am a little confused. What makes you feel we do think your experience is invalid?
If I made you feel that way somehow, it was not my intention at all.
I absolutely think your experience is just as valid as anyone elses.

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posted February 08, 2014 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lavendar PLEASE don't go!!!! I've really enjoyed having you in this forum and hearing your thoughts! I don't discredit your experience at all- who am I to say? I just want to hear about everyone's connections and common viewpoints. I think all of our stories will be different. Please stay...sending hugs and love 💙💙💙💙😊

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IndigoDirae
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posted February 08, 2014 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Morpheus, 😉

You're a special sort. That comes through very loudly from somewhere - I never know where. It made me misty, that you said my being here for my stepdaughter is impacting enough. That means more to me than I know how to express.

It's funny about the hashtag. Fate got me into it. In 2011, he was hashtagging all over the place. It's going to be all the rage, he told me. Me, sans Twitter, and only Facebooking for professional networking. But that's just how he is, in his infinite Sagaquarianness. I was fortunate to be born to a man with both 24° SCO on an angle (which became my MOON, thanks, Daddy! 😝 and a MERC RX, if not in SAG, but AQU.

So a lot of Fate's genius quirks are familiar to me, since I watched them growing up. Aaaand he has a LEO Mom, too. 'Nuff said, there! 😉

So a part of me sits back and pays attention to his bizarre Jobsian insight into where technology and even humanity are headed.

Which has had me frustrated he's been allowing himself to do the dead-end entry-level job thing. But there's a reason. He's getting something from it. Something that will become important. Just as I have by going the opposite route. He's done the no-connexion, sport sex and dead-end job thing; I did the entrepreneurial and marry a divorcée and become a stepmom thing. Especially by marrying an entrepreneur - with a chemistry BS.

They're quite a lot alike on certain levels. It's eerie.

So, Fate started using hashtags in 2010. By 2012, it was the expressive sort of thing I'd later pick up, and which would become ubiquitous. #sheep #hatetoadmitit #havefunandbesilly.

Of course he'd do it #LikeThis. So we both do that, sometimes. It's become a secret code.

Example:

Jesus. Calm down. #GoingToTheMattresses.

He's saying to me that I'm overreacting, but his hashtag reveals he's equally angry and doing something about it.

To that end, hashtagging reaches into a part of our subconscious. So, tagging '12thhouseissues' is oddly perfect. We can communicate in that code, which might even link us to people we don't even know yet. But we share something already, because we're speaking the same code, using the same code word.

Naturally, a lot of these goofy innovations took place in our work, as he'd put them into his creation, 'creating dynamic, take-charge characters who we're confronting their destiny, whereas I felt fearful and my life was stagnating.' Hell of an insight for a teenager, which was when he'd started collaborative writing.

I sense you're feeling that same crossroads anxiety. But the areas of interest you hold are clearly indicative of some great things you can do. Just don't be overwhelmed. Remember that Morpheus acted in many ways as a muse; he inspired and created action through delegation. It allowed him to be more places than he could ever be acting as a corporeal man. The Internet gives us that amazing disembodiment, and ability to reach far and wide, no matter where we are.

Fate's taught me a lot of this, whether it was through understanding how he saw that hashtagging would become a language all its own, and revolutionise the way we network or connect, or the mere fact we chose to meet via this medium, undergoing what so many do when those relationships both fail AND are successful.

It's like living multiple possibilities in many lives simultaneously. It inspired me to pick back up something I'd let go out of fear in college: quantum physics. I got to astrophysics as a freshman, and stopped, returning to and focussing on psychology. It'd turn out I'd NEED that, so I'm very grateful.

But I'd NEED the quantum physics, too, in order to make these discoveries, and to consolidate my theories. He gave me that confidence.

I think soulmates work in tandem with your Twinflame, (on a purely theoretical level here, as my own experiences are simply that - my experiences) but I feel there's a dynamic synergy taking place.

I can certainly say I've seen that sort of energy at work here, should that be the case. Whether my husband was testing me, making me grow in ways I had to, and Fate would in turn be inspiring me, helping me remember who I was, who I need to be again; or vice versa - Fate and I being at odds, and my husband learning to be emotionally supportive, wanting to grow, in order to maximise the benefit for all involved.

And I haven't even told you about a very special type of soulmate that I feel are crucial to a Graduate's evolution at the earthly level. Something Jo B touched on brilliantly, that resonates very much with me.

But in short, I thought I'd relay my thoughts on hashtagging, heh, and how much I appreciate your saying what I do for my stepdaughter matters. She's such a special soul, and she definitely needs support and freedom to become that exceptional person she's here to be. So I do what I can to do that.

A lot of it's my own development. Learn how to produce transmedia - she's gonna need it. Learn how to navigate the pitfalls of Aspergers - because I knew she was from a young age. It's only recently been confirmed. Teach her mother the value of neuro-diversity. Help my husband understand the power of Eastern philosophy as it relates to masculinity, and possessiveness and entitlement are just Western attributes that've become synonymous with 'being a man' because of dysfunction. Not health.

But I've had to learn ALL of these things. Some very fast - only a few years. Some longer - a decade. Some have been with me since my childhood - astrology. It'll be 25 years this year. I don't recall the month. 😉

But that's why I feel astrology is important on all of this. That's likely why I learnt so young, and it's been a passion of mine all my life; no matter the atheist and non-metaphysical men to whom I've been bonded. They've been here to teach me to hold tight. To believe in myself. They've challenged me.

Fate is a part of that, most certainly. The way we challenge each other to grow is remarkable. But it's a kind of bizarre marriage from which there's no option of divorce.

In the story, we explored that by having the two characters go through a magic(k)al ritual that would release them from the bond. They'd no longer have the empathic or psychic ties, and be freed from their destiny.

So they go through it, and then later feel horrible. They 'miss' it. They 'wish they could have it back'.

'I'm really sorry,' the wizened old sorcerer / attorney, says. 'Guess you should've thought of that.'

They decide, okay, I'm sure it would've made things a lot easier, to have this connexion to each other, and the support of the universe, but we CAN'T turn away from our destiny. We just can't.

So they stick with it, and work to become closer, and start to feel the connexion again: the empathy, the psychic bond; he needs her, and she's able to locate him telepathically.

Afterward, the younger wizard goes to the older mage and tell him that he didn't do it right; it came back. He just laughs.

'You're adorable in your stupidity, you know that?' And they just stare at him. 'I'm flattered you think I have the power to control universal forces, but, newsflash, sport. I don't. Neither do you. We may be able to do a lot of really phenomenal things others can't, but NOBODY can sever that connexion. You're stuck with it, and not just 'til the day you die. Oh, no. It's the gift that keeps on giving, so you'd better get used to it and quit being a selfish prick.'

I loved that scene. It conveyed so much I'd wanted to put across. I just had no idea these 'magical bonds' were a metaphor for a Twinflame connexion. He warns them to not be so careless, either. That they didn't feel it for awhile because they were squandering the gift they'd been given, by cursing and hating it. Instead, they needed to see the beauty of its power.

But two people who have no clue what to do with the concept of pure unconditional love are bound to screw it up.

Welcome to humanity. 😉

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posted February 08, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Ok I got the hint.
I will not share any views or experiences of mine here any longer.

I chose to participate in hopes of finding like minded to discuss things honestly and respectfully with.
I've had experiences of my own I really wanted to get off my chest and I felt this was the right place to do so. However, it seems I was wrong because instead of acceptance, I was treated with prejudice and looked down upon just for my experience not quite fitting in.
I'm disappointed to have even tried.

It makes me feel guilty to even feel this connection with him, all because it doesnt fit in with the so-called "norm" of how such connections SHOULD take place.

I thought this was about sharing freely, but some of you are ready to jump the gun at me and dismiss my experience as "invalid", all because I haven't met him yet, and he's an artist.
It still doesn't make my experience any less valid than your's, or that girl whose story I decided to share.
Anything is possible.


Crystal,

Please don't take offence. You're very young, and that matters. It never feels like it at the time, but it does.

Sharing your story, your thoughts, feelings, and experiences with people here is the best thing you could do. You won't find better teachers than Ceridwen, tgem, Delilah, and many more who pop in and out, or who've not gotten here just yet (like Gabby).

We all go through a testing.

Where's t-SATURN for you right now? Is it making some strong aspects to your angles, their rulers, or your MOON? It's right on my MOON now, and hitting Fate's KARMA-SATURN. I had my first Saturn Return a few years ago. So t-SATURN being on my 3H MOON shows me it's time for me to teach. To share. To inform, educate - and learn!

So please don't feel that because others don't believe someone that you do, or are simply exhibiting a healthy scepticism that it doesn't mean you shouldn't share.

You seem very fearful. That your beliefs are so fragile, and the slightest knock will send them careening off into nothingness. But your life is just getting started. The beliefs you have now may go through a 180 before returning to 0. It certainly happened to me.

But I can tell you, on this journey, the sword of truth is accompanied by Occam's Razor. It's WHEN the MOST logical explanation IS the LEAST likely that you enter the realm of the paranormal. I know this. It's a field in which I've had much experience.

And I'd started my training at 19. 😊

So please don't feel as if YOUR thoughts and feelings are so dependent upon anyone's support, approval, or disregard. It's nice to be validated, but that's a luxury, not an essential.

If you're a Graduate soul, you will be tested. A LOT. You will have to have YOUR beliefs, and you will HAVE to adhere to them. But, heavens no, not at 19. Maybe not even 40. I'm 33 and only began 'the fight for my soul's integrity' after my first Saturn Return.

Give yourself permission to grow, change, believe, disbelieve, have your heart uplifted, broken, strengthened, and then a beacon for others.

Give yourself room to learn. And, more than anything, to not know yet. Or years from now. Or even ever. That's okay. It really is.

As Gabby said to me this past month, I don't have to have all the answers. I can give myself the freedom to not know some things.

You're going to learn and do so much, Crystal. Give yourself enough love to believe in yourself. Let other things - like beliefs in others, or specific theories or philosophies - come later.

Just believe in you now. That's more than enough, and something most never achieve. It's enough of a challenge for now, don't you think?

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posted February 08, 2014 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ Morph- what's your opinion about the "other signs and symptoms" that have been used to validate TF's? I know there's a lot that Mel and Nicole say are not true that so many others say is a key? For instance the numerology, 11:11 concept, synchronicities, parallel lives etc.? I agree that although they seem extremely knowledgable, using them as an absolute measuring stick may not be the best idea. We all seem to agree on the astrological aspects, that's for sure, but what else? I'd be really interested in your 2 cents...

Okay. I've gotta jump in for a sec.

I never bought into the 11:11 thing, either, but it started in 2012, when Fate and I started working together. Really, after he'd confessed the truth.

It would go in cycles. It'd be every day, days on end. Twice a day. 11:11, 23:11, bam. Clockwork.

When this special soulmate and I became involved, just before, it became alternating 12:34, just as often. Everywhere. Clocks, addresses, phone numbers, serial numbers - everywhere.

It slapped me in the face yesterday, after being mostly an occasional thing since 2014 began. And I mean, HARD.

I was clearing out my inbox of old email, (thanks Merc Wretch!) and had spent the last 5 minutes, maybe more, of just scrolling and tapping to select, for mass deletion.

I was up to 1000, and suddenly, my iOS starts refreshing, as it's going into other mailboxes not my inbox.

All that was selected was deselected.

It was 11:11.

My phone's charge was 11%.

The first email that was in my 'other inbox' was received at 11:11. And, there were 1111 total now in my inbox.

... Holy. God.

I took a screencap, as usual, when 11:11 hits, (I have hundreds filed away, in case I need to reference something) because THAT was just overwhelming.

The song on the radio was Lane 8's 'The One', and that's all I recall at the moment.

I was more peeved at having to reselect everything! But I improved my method. And found some email that I feel is important now, and contacted those people. Hurrah, Merc Wretch.

So. 11:11. Yeah. That's played a role. Maybe never quite THAT overwhelmingly. But a role.

But I also wise you the presence of apophenia here, as we have little clocks in our faces far more than we used to.

Is it meaningful when I happen to glance at it and it's 11:11? Or I more so when I grab it, and it says 11:11?

Either way, it's been there.

And 12:34. To me, it feels a 'graduation' of 12:34.

Happened today, too.

So, 11:11 overload yesterday, then no 23:11, and no 11:11 today, but a 12:34.

Aaaaand that's my life. 😜

As to specific numbers being a 'do or die'? Absolutely not. I think the 11's are initiatory. But HAVING to have birthdays or meetings with a certain number - no.

If anything, I kinda buy into 0. It's full circle. Completion.

Going through the progressive meetings with Fate, it's interesting how 0 becomes more prominent.

Anyone else notice 0?

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posted February 08, 2014 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well after I started taking notice to the 11:11 other combos started appearing: 111, 222, 333 etc. all the way up to 000. And yes I saw the 000 in several instances. You're right, it does mean completion.

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0 = conjunctio = union

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I have also read that the number 10 is associated with Twinflames:
For example check out the asteroids Atlantis and Union:
Atlantis # 1198 (1+1+9+8= 19/ 9+1=10)
Union # 1585 (1+5+8+5=19/ 9+1=10)
My name asteroid (1+6+0+1+2= 10) ..just for the "wow" factor😜

His union is trine my union exact!
His Atlantis trines my sun, kaali and alma by 1 and squares my venus and neptune by 1.
My Atlantis conjuncts his neptune (1) and Alma (4), trines his Saturn by 1 and squares his venus exact!

Finally in his natal, my name asteroid conjuncts his NN by 1 and squares his Kaali and last name by 1.


How about the 10 of cups anyone??!!

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10
The Wheel of Fortune
10 is symbolized by Isis and Osiris. A number of rise and fall, according to personal desire. The name will be known for good or evil, depending on the action chosen. 10 is capable of arousing the extreme responses of love or hate--respect or fear. There is no middle ground between honor or dishonor. Every event is self-determined. 10 is the symbol of LOve and Light, which create all that can be imagined, and also contains the code: Image 10 Ordain. Image it, and it shall be. Ordain it, and it will materialize. The power for manifesting creative concepts into reality is inherent, but must be used with wisdom, since the power for absolute creation contains the polarity power for absolute destruction. Self-discipline and infinite compassion must accompany the gift of the former to avoid the tragedy of the latter. Discipline must precede Dominion. Unfortunately, some 10 people fail to realize their power potential, and consequently harbor deep-seated feelings of frustrations, causing them to feel unfulfilled, and to occasionally behave in a somewhat proud and arrogant manner to cover such unnecessary feelings of inferiority.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
0 = conjunction = union


I think so, too.

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Number patterns is one of the ways the universe is asking you to pay attention, telling you that something significant is afoot.

Interestingly, I never notice numbers. I only seem to do so when there is something worthy of noticing. That, in itself, is remarkable, as if somebody nudged me. The last time that occurred was in one of Ceri's threads; http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001451-4.html
on the Ariadne/Bacchus pairings. I discovered this in our synastry when I was having serious doubts about us, on 22/11/2013 at 12:21. Somebody reaching out to me to say 'have faith".

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Hah. My name asteroid is 56, so, 11.

Otherwise, plenty of 0's. In both my month and year; in his day. And, for some reason, 12 is our number. One's month, the other's day.

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I suspect some of us 'number nuts', Astro, may have PALLAS strong. 😉

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quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
I have also read that the number 10 is associated with Twinflames:
For example check out the asteroids Atlantis and Union:
Atlantis # 1198 (1+1+9+8= 19/ 9+1=10)
Union # 1585 (1+5+8+5=19/ 9+1=10)
My name asteroid (1+6+0+1+2= 10) ..just for the "wow" factor😜

His union is trine my union exact!
His Atlantis trines my sun, kaali and alma by 1 and squares my venus and neptune by 1.
My Atlantis conjuncts his neptune (1) and Alma (4), trines his Saturn by 1 and squares his venus exact!

Finally in his natal, my name asteroid conjuncts his NN by 1 and squares his Kaali and last name by 1.


How about the 10 of cups anyone??!!



Oh I did not know that about 10.
WEll actually I have been thinking about the meaning of something.

A few days ago I was in my mind looking at the numbers of Mr Sag and me, birthday numbers.

I noticed that he was born on a 19th - the Sun in tarot, I was born on a 18th - the Moon.

Adding up birthday and month:
he: 4 - emperor
me: 3 - empress

And then I realized that, if you add up our birthdays the sum is 10.

the sum of the month is 6.

the sum of the years is 11.

it just puzzles me.

my name number is 39 - his birthnumber is 39.

BTW his Union is conjunct my Union exact (29 Libra)

my Atlantis is conjunct his Kaali and Mercury and Musa and quinkunx his Chiron, also squares his ERos, trines his Ceres

his Atlantis is conjunct my Cupido, trine my Chiron and Phoinix, sextile my Musa, trine my Proserpina

(means our tight Pluto-Proserpina-Ceres link up is mutually tied to Atlantis).

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I know it puzzles me too..I was just thinking to myself writing my last post, "ok is this for real or am I just grasping at straws here desperately trying to find connections?"

Mercury is extremely prominent in my chart so I investigate/analyze every little thing...numerology is significant for a reason. so one one hand I feel the number connections are valid and there's no way this can be a coincidence but on the other hand I'm going, "get a grip, it's just a coincidence...." UGH, I don't know.

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Hah. My name asteroid is 56, so, 11.

Otherwise, plenty of 0's. In both my month and year; in his day. And, for some reason, 12 is our number. One's month, the other's day.


12 is coming up for us as well. But we are both december-children, so no suprise there. But still there is also my name number reducing to 12/ 3 and his birthnumber reducing to 12/ 3

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I suspect some of us 'number nuts', Astro, may have PALLAS strong. 😉

Trine my mercury and neptune exact and parallel my ASC.

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That's cool Ceri about the 19th and the 18th corresponding to the sun and moon! Yeah, it's all pretty fascinating!

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